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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:06 PM
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Top Clinton campaign officials "privately furious" at Bill and Bill angry at "campaign's ineptitude"
Edited on Mon Dec-10-07 10:18 PM by ClarkUSA
Her once-commanding advantage over Obama in Iowa and New Hampshire -- the two critical initial contests -- is evaporating.
She has gotten the worst of recent exchanges over Iran and health care.

There are also political strains with her greatest asset and surrogate, Bill Clinton. The former president was quoted last month as
saying he had really opposed the invasion of Iraq from the beginning; he later claimed he was misquoted.

Top Clinton campaign officials were privately furious at the former president, saying he had revived the complaint that the Clintons
lack credibility, unfairly tarnishing his wife in the process.

For his part, the former president, one close associate says, has been bouncing off the walls at the campaign's ineptitude in the
past few weeks. (It is not known if the Clintons shared any of these sentiments with each other)... The Clinton organization had
a clear plan A: It envisioned the candidate, as the choice of the party establishment and natural heir to the presidency, to so
dominate 2007 that she would be able to corner, not have to capture, the nomination. It worked perfectly for most of the year.

The strategy has imploded.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=anRcoLyfN0VM#


It's safe to say the Clinton II coronation plans have been put on hold. :party:
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:20 PM
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1. I heard Big Dog is mad and wants to see changes in the campaign.
Edited on Mon Dec-10-07 10:20 PM by tekisui
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:27 PM
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3. Yeah, no doubt... I'll bet he wishes he were running instead of Hillary
Edited on Mon Dec-10-07 10:40 PM by ClarkUSA
Maybe he can start by firing the asshole who gave the thumbs-up to send those "Obama is a Muslim Manchurian candidate
who went to a madrassa" emails, though probably he has no problem with it.

What a bunch of scumbags the Rovian-Nixonian-Clintonians are. :puke:
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 01:25 AM
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17. And you know that that campaign "sent those emails"
how?

And are you aware that Clark supports Clinton?

(Just curious about your "name" and your hatred of the Clintons.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:22 PM
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2. Good. (nt)
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:31 PM
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4. Al Hunt, again?
How many more threads on this one dumbass article by Al Hunt, former WSJ lackey?

Nothing is "imploding". Obama is getting all the free press with the Oprah bunny-hop. It will die down and then it will be someone else's turn on the dance floor.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:43 PM
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7. Attacking the messenger, again?
This isn't the first story that has suggested the Clinton campaign is fighting among themselves.

It won't be the last.
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suston96 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:56 PM
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10. This isn't the first story......
Really? Got link?

And gee, what a surprise. A massive campaign organization develops familial discord? That's bad. Never happens anywhere else.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 01:22 AM
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16. That's right.
Edited on Tue Dec-11-07 01:24 AM by ClarkUSA
You go fetch links if you're so interested, which I doubt from your snark. Anyway, this story is such a change from The Flawless Campaign
stories the rest of us were choking on for 10 months that I thought it was newsworthy even if DU Clintonians don't. We sure haven't
heard these kind of stories coming out of the Edwards and Obama campaigns -- maybe that's because their numbers haven't been
sinking since the Philly debate. :-)
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 01:07 AM
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15. Maybe the "big dawg" should do as George Bush did and
walk up to Al Hunt and say “You fucking son of a bitch, I saw what you wrote. We’re not going to forget this.”

Seems like it worked for bush cause Al and Judy have been kissing w's ass for 7 years now.....
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:34 PM
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5. I'm starting to feel sad for Hillary... she planned this for so long and...
this guy Obama had to ruin it... :bounce:
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:47 PM
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8. The polls are so tight and close in the first three or four primary
states, the Clinton campaign knows that an Obama win in Iowa will likely begin an avalanche where he goes on to win NH and SC as well. That is sure-fire defeat for them. I would be imploding to knowing that so much rides on one damn state where I'm trending down.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 05:40 AM
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21. heh
:D
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:37 PM
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6. Bill Clinton is the best politician this country has today bar none.
He'll figure out a way of helping Hillary's campaign.
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fdonagaugh Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:48 PM
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9. This is news? These 'top campaign officials' suffer
a meltdown once or twice a day. In my experience, it is often the 'officials' they send in from the national campaign -- to show us 'little people' how to do things -- that F it up ROYALLY.

This was most true of the Dukakis and Kerry staff people I worked with. A bunch of North Eastern elites who couldn't campaign their way out of a paper bag. Given Clinton's a NY Senator, I'll bet she has a bunch of these yahoos working for her, too.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 10:59 PM
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11. Well, it is news for those of us who had to suffer through 10 mos. of The Flawless Campaign
Although that's not to say your observations are not spot-on... but Bill having fits is interesting to know.

Welcome to DU, by the way... :hi:
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fdonagaugh Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 11:22 PM
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12. Thanks for the welcome ...
I've worked these campaigns - federal, state, and local, long enough to have seen it all (I hope).

BTW, I expect this will happen to Obama soon, too. The national staff will 'shoot itself in the foot'.

Not because they're arrogant, well-seasoned, know-it-all a-holes, like some of the NE campaign staffs -- but, because their 'young' and will inevitably do something stupid (i.e., allow some in-house sniping to undermine their message or get too big, too fast, and trip over their own 'grandeur').

It happens all the time. And, if you don't have a team like Powell and Jordan or Carville and Wright you don't stand a chance.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 11:50 PM
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13. It's nice to know you know what you're talking about...
Edited on Mon Dec-10-07 11:50 PM by ClarkUSA
Although the Obama campaign has some seasoned campaign managers and advisors like David Axelrod and Steve Hillebrand, the organization is widely
considered to be much more of a "bottom-up" sort than the Clintonian "top-down" model. I think the strict hierarchical Clinton command chain has
something to do with and/or contributes to the problem of power-struggle faux-pas.
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fdonagaugh Donating Member (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-10-07 11:59 PM
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14. Obama Mistake #1
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 01:27 AM
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19. BS. Every campaign does oppo-research. I'm sure Edwards has plenty on Obama, too.
Edited on Tue Dec-11-07 01:30 AM by ClarkUSA
But no one except Clinton has cultivated plants and swift boated Obama with madrassa emails and Novak stories. Those are what I call mistakes on
a sick political and ethical scale. By the way, are you a Clinton supporter?
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 01:34 AM
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20. Hey, CU, here's what the amateurs did today in NV
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 01:26 AM
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18. Yah...Axelrod is a real puppy!
Edited on Tue Dec-11-07 01:27 AM by BeyondGeography
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-11-07 10:42 AM
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22. ha!
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