Chris Matthews predicts Joe Biden to be in top 3 in Iowa

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Dec. 10: On tonight’s “Hardball,” Chris Matthews switched John Edwards from the #3 Democratic candidate spot in Iowa, took him off his personal predictions “Power Rankings” list, and replaced him with Democratic presidential candidate U.S. Senator Joe Biden.

Mr. Matthews predicts Hillary Clinton will be the #1 choice for Caucus-goers in Iowa, followed by Barack Obama in the #2 spot, and Senator Joe Biden in the #3 spot.

On the Chris Matthews personal “Hardball Power Rankings” list, Senator Biden ranks higher than John Edwards, Bill Richardson, Chris Dodd, Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel.

http://blog.joebiden.com/

[Donnachaidh]

1. uhh yeah

Tweety's ALWAYS correct on these things. :rofl:

[Renew Deal]

2. I think he's sniffing glue

[Horse with no Name]

3. Gotta love Tweety

:rofl:
Gotta get Edwards out of the top tier.
Guess if HE puts him out, then he is out.Just can't :rofl: at this one too much!:rofl:

[K Gardner]

4. How did I miss that? Oh yeah, I turned him off :-) But yay for Joe !!

[PatSeg]

8. Me too

I watched the first airing, but I never watch the 2nd one and I guess that's where he gave Biden the push up.

[Egnever]

5. Chris loves Joe

Been drooling over him for years. I hope hes right though.

[ellacott]

7. I wish he would have him on the show more often n/t

[Egnever]

17. I am pretty sure he has been on Mathews

More than any other candidate runing. The guy practicaly lived on there in the begining of the war and pretty much up till he threw his hat in the ring. Hes been right on this war from my view pretty much all the way through and been vocal about it. At least on TV, in the backrooms of congress I think he may be a tad to gentalmanly for these times.

[ellacott]

60. Joe Biden can never be on TV too much for me

I don't know if he's been on more than and other candidate but I would still like to see more of him. I would also like them to talk more about Biden.

[Auntie Bush]

95. I love Joe too, but I haven't been drooling!

[Justyce]

6. The fact that the media tries so hard to minimize Edwards speaks volumes.

I'm suspicious of anything Chris Mathews "predicts" anyway...

[PatSeg]

10. He's not too great at predictions as a rule

Actually I think Biden will show better than #3.

[1corona4u]

21. Here's my prediction..

I bet after the 4th, there will be a ton of new members on the board...all new names and the like, LOL...and it won't be the Biden supporters...

[PatSeg]

27. Hmmmm, I get your drift

Best to be prepared.

[ginchinchili]

72. Yes, best be prepared.

The good news is that we already know the flimsy attacks they'll use, but the guy is solid. There is little of substance to go after him on. Disagreements on a couple of votes. The plagiarism charges, and the only guilt involved there is one case where he forgot to attribute a couple of lines to a British politician. But he had been remembering to give the guy credit except for that one time and a political opponent, Mike Dukakis, used it against him. He took full responsibility for his oversight and that was that, no excuses just owning up to it. He didn't make it where he is today riding on someone else's coattails; he didn't do cocaine; he's certainly not inexperienced; he isn't despised by Independents and moderate Republicans; he doesn't have to bs because he's been there, done that. He is in a unique position to do a really fine job as president. Wake up my fellow Democrats. He is the logical choice.

[PatSeg]

80. The things that republicans will attack Biden for are not

republican talking points. Of course, if they are impersonating lefties, they may try to imitate us and our values. It usually is glaringly obvious though. Righties aren't very subtle.

[CreekDog]

32. Matthews had the famous, "Al Gore should not concede this election"

in the middle of the night after Election Day while the cameras were pointed at a stage in Nashville where Al Gore was expected to announce his concession. Apparently, Gore's staff heard this and the narrowed totals in Florida.

And Matthews was right about Iraq.

I can't stand him, but he's right once in a while.

And if he likes Joe Biden, I won't hold it against Joe.

[PatSeg]

35. He was totally WRONG about Bush

but his stand on Iraq has been solid and consistent. He also torn Michelle Malkin apart for her inference that Kerry's war wound was self-afflicted. The look on her pathetic face was priceless.

[Laurab]

59. Isn't he also the one who told Joe Wilson his wife was "fair game"

and about the telephone call he got saying it? Tweety's done a couple of decent things, I never watch him, but I don't mind if he likes Biden - and, I think he might be right, or at least partially right.

[PatSeg]

61. Karl Rove supposedly called Matthews and

said that Wilson's wife was fair game.

[Laurab]

62. That's what I thought. and Matthews told Wilson

and said Wilson could quote him, or something like that. I think it took some courage - a lot, actually. At any rate, sometimes he knows what he's talking about, and I hope he's right on this one.

[PatSeg]

65. Strangely enough, Matthews didn't mention the phone call

later on. I think someone told him to "button it".

[Andy823]

51. I agree

The money behind the media doesn't want Edwards, and they have been doing eveything they can to prevent him from getting the nomination, and that just sucks in my book! This should be a sign for people that Edwards has something going for him when the powers in this country, big money, don't want him to get elected. They know he is the only one on the dem ticket that will kick ass and put an end to their greedy, sick, destruction of this country. Edwards is the one person that will work for the "people" not corporations, and they will do all they can to stop him. I think the American people are fed up with the "corporate" leaders running this country and selling out the American people. I realy think they will put Edwards in the whitehouse and get the change that we deserve!

Go Edwards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:woohoo:

[democrat2thecore]

92. Minimize EDWARDS????

After every debate it's all Hillary, Obama and Edwards. Biden is mentioned always in passing, but it's EDWARDS you think is being minimized? Hardly.

[joeybee12]

9. My condolences to Biden supporters...

...Matthews is an idiot. He's never right. Doesn't bode well for Hilary, either. Maybe Edwards supporters should be rejoicing?

[CreekDog]

34. Matthews was right on Iraq

he is mostly wrong, but not always.

speak with precision.

[Armstead]

46. He was among those drooling over Bush in a flight suit

According to Tweety at the time, the sight of Bush on the aircraft carrier was sealing the doom of the Democrats for decades and cementing GW's place in history as a hero.

He said in the 04 election, that would be the symbol of the Bush campaign.

Ooops

[CreekDog]

49. I didn't say he was any more right than a broken clock

but he has been right occasionally, at big moments.

the guy hasn't switched off his brain permanently, he just obviously saves it for very limited circumstances.

[Armstead]

52. Great line

He has the shotgun approach. If he shoots enough of them against a wall, at least some of them are likely to come close to the target.

[CreekDog]

54. that is a bonafide pundit technique

in fact, he has stated it himself, that when you predict what everyone else predicts, nobody notices. when you predict what nobody else predicts, if you are wrong, nobody cares, but if you are right, everyone thinks you were a genius. and he wrote that in his column opposing the Iraq War as I remember.

[PatSeg]

55. Brief moments of clarity

Then back to the same old pandering.

[CreekDog]

57. he used a lot of time opposing the Iraq War

i wouldn't say that was "brief" by any measure.

[PatSeg]

58. No, for that I give him a lot of credit

He has his "real" moments and he has been consistent and sincere on the war.

[ginchinchili]

77. LOL...you left out Obama.

Should Barack be throwing in the towel?

[ginchinchili]

11. I think he's calling this one correctly.

Sometimes Chris Matthews gets it right and I think this is one of those times. Among other things Biden has 2 big advantages in Iowa: 1)He's more qualified than any of the other candidates (an advantage he has everywhere he goes), and 2)Iowans tend not to be easily influenced by hype and fluff. They are good at boiling it all down to the essentials, which is good news for Biden and bad news for the "top tier" who have to rely, in large part, on the things money can buy, i.e, hype and fluff.

[Think82]

12. Jooooooooementum! ... The good kind.

[gateley]

13. Whether he's right or not, it's sure an encouraging thing for us Biden supporters

to hear -- thanks, Tweety!

[Cha]

14. Well, we're gonna see

if ol Tweety has his finger on the pulse of Iowa or not, aren't we?

[bdamomma]

15. hmm... is that right, Biden is getting acknowledged even if it's by

Chris Matthews, Biden is being acknowledged.

[PatSeg]

16. This is important for a candidate with so little $$$

Whether the prediction has any merit at all is not the point. Biden is getting the exposure he needs and deserves.

[DrFunkenstein]

18. Where's Zell Miller When You Need Him?

Duel! Duel! Duel! Duel! Duel! Duel! Duel!

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3fv=AuBnlNjZq24

[Cameron27]

19. I hope he's right,

I'd like to see Clinton, Biden and Dodd in the top three spots.

[pstans]

20. Matthews hasn't been around Iowa much recently

Edwards is as strong as, or even stronger than Obama and Clinton. It wouldn't surprise me if Biden did get 3rd, but I'd see Hillary dropping to 4th, not Edwards.

[jillan]

22. Matthews is an ass. This is from some poll. He showed the graphic, then said

that he's been hearing about Biden more lately, and then spent the next 15 minutes building up the tension between
Hillary and Barack. Not another word about Joe.

To all of you saying he dissed Edwards - he didn't. Well he did, but not in that segment.

btw -Why was Edwards laughing like that when he was on yesterday? He reminded me of Hillary or Rudy answering questions by laughter instead of by answers.

[Cameron27]

24. I heard Matthews say that Edwards

is close to being out of contention. I don't remember when he said it, but it was either yesterday or this morning. I rarely watch Hardball anymore, it's just become a big Obamathon.

[jillan]

26. I think he's on meds - I really do.

I just watched Nora O'Donnell interview him on msnbc. She was quoting the poll that showed more people said that Bill Clinton would influence them over Oprah. And Matthews said that poll was bs.

What is with him?

I don't even think he supports Obama. Why is he doing this?

[PatSeg]

29. He thrives on conflict

He loves the fight and if there is no fight, he instigates one. I remember him saying numerous times that Obama had to step up and take on Hillary. So Obama did just that and was criticized for negative politics. I'm sure Matthews loved it.

It isn't a matter of who he supports (if anyone), it is where there is conflict. I do believe he was sincere about the war though. His face changes and he becomes very somber.

[jillan]

36. I agree about the War. And that moment with Biden was real - and very emotional.

[PatSeg]

39. I'll never forget that and the respectful way Matthews

treated Biden. They were on the same page that day.

[Armstead]

42. Or else he's off his meds

[K Gardner]

38. I think Edwards was laughing AT the unbelievably idiotic questions

Matthews was asking him. Nothing on the issues. It was "Why are you calling it the Main Street Express?" "How do you feel about Oprah?".. I mean, it was truly stupidity and fluff. Edwards is a serious candidate. I would've laughed, too. I can't stand Matthews.. he's a danger to our democracy simply because the masses think he's a serious "journalist" and they listen to him.

[PatSeg]

41. He beats Tucker

but then thats not too hard to do.

[K Gardner]

44. True enough !! LOL n/t

[PatSeg]

53. I think Tucker will be replaced soon

Maybe David Schuster or Rachel Maddow. The success of Countdown is obvious and they know the more liberal shows are their chance for survival.

[Beacool]

23. Tweety thinks that Hillary will be #1 in IA????

Wow, this may be the first time that I wish that he was right!!!!

Wonders never cease........

[PatSeg]

30. Don't get too used to it though

He changes his mind on a daily basis!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. I Pay No Attention To Tweety

Whether I agree or disagree with him for to do so would make me a hypoctite...

You know the foul stuff that accumulates at the bottom of a bong... That's Tweety...

[PatSeg]

31. Yeah, there are times when I agree with him but then he

goes in a total opposite direction. His mind seems to be all over the place and once and awhile he gets it right.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

45. I Have No Dog In This Fight

I like Joe Biden...

I do wonder why Tweey's "burying" John Edwards...

[rhett o rick]

28. Stephanie Miller said it best, "Chris Matthews is a right wing tool." Nuff said. nm

[democrat2thecore]

93. Yeah, right. - on another planet -nt

[jaysunb]

33. here's the order of finish

1) Obama
2) Edwards
3) Richards
4) Clinton
5) Biden & Dodd

Take it to the bank... :evilgrin:

[PatSeg]

37. Hmmmm

1) Biden
2) Obama
3) Clinton
4) Edwards
5) Richards and Dodd

[1corona4u]

50. LOL...you wish...

[PatSeg]

56. I'm either delusional or very prophetic

I've been both in the past.

[1corona4u]

64. I was actually taking to the person above you...maybe I hit the wrong reply...

sorry! I hope you're right though, LOL

[PatSeg]

66. That's okay

I thought you meant I was shooting too high!

[Steely_Dan]

78. I Love Ya, But...

I think that it might be reaching a little. I'm a huge Biden fan. 2nd or 3rd would be incredible.

-Paige

[PatSeg]

82. It would, but I think 1st is a genuine possibility

Just remember that I said it!

[Steely_Dan]

89. I'm Right With You!

I try to be realistic about this. I also don't want to suffer disappointment. I hope that you are right.

-Paige

[PatSeg]

90. And remember that I said it very calmly

and dispassionately. I really believe it is a possibility; it has happened before.

[Armstead]

40. That's today....Give Tweety an hour and he'll change his mind again

[DeanDem10]

43. Chris needs help

Chris says some outlandish, and even incoherent, things. And the level of his commentary has sunk so low (not that it ever was that high) that I really wonder if something has happened to his brain. Seriously, the man isn't prime-time competent. But MSNBC keeps giving him the hour anyway.

Just because he talks fast doesn't mean he actually says anything that matters.

[PatSeg]

47. I hate the way he keeps talking over his guests

It is really annoying and rude. It is like he's trying to answer his own questions.

[Cameron27]

48. Yep, Matthews is more excitably virulent

than Pat Buchanan now. It's impossible to watch, sometimes he'll say something worth listening to, but basically he just rants bs without any regard to the truth.

[rinsd]

63. Tweety sucks....period.

[Blue_In_AK]

67. I saw that yesterday,

but then he didn't say anything more about him. :shrug:

[PatSeg]

69. Not a word today either

He threw it out there and then nothing!

[Moderate Dem]

68. Let's see now...

The right hates Chris Matthews, the left here at DU hates Chris Matthews...

Sounds like he's doing something right!

[PatSeg]

70. Good point

I don't watch him every day like I used to, but I still watch several times a week.

[adapa]

71. Granted it's Tweety but he's middle America, which might not see a black man or a woman as president

And we need the moderates to win.

Believe me I wish it was different.

[Cameron27]

73. Tweety's not middle America,

he's a Washington chic wannabe. He's been pushing Obama hard, so I'm not sure what your point is.

[adapa]

75. Not so much Tweety but swing voter

Just that the moderate American may have a bit of a problem voting for either Obama or Hillary. It shouldn't be that way but I keep thinking of the 'good old boys' and wonder if we need some of them to vote democratic in Nov.
I guess it boils down to that 'electability' thing.

[1corona4u]

76. Yes, it does....

and that should be a big concern for all of the democrats.

[democrat2thecore]

99. Matthews a wannabe?

He turns 63 next week. He's been a reporter and/or columnist for a good 40 years. He's hardly a wannabe.

[Generator]

74. I smell a new man crush

Maybe Matthews has finally gotten over Bush. Of course he can't go for the obvious-Edwards because of course Edwards is real progressive and Tweety REALLY hates them.

[Andromeda]

79. Who cares .....

Nothing against Joe Biden, I think he's a fine candidate, but Tweety is a legend in his own mind.

Maybe Tweety is close but what he lacks in brains he gains in audacity so I don't pay too much attention to his predictions.

[PatSeg]

81. I don't either

It is the media coverage that matters. For the MSM there are only two Dems in the race and occasionally a third when they choose to acknowledge that Edwards is running also.

[BenDavid]

83. Still pissed at the clintons for not being the w.h.press sect.

[PatSeg]

84. For real?

I didn't know that.

[fightindonkey]

85. Matthews Is The One Who Thought There'd Be No Conviction In The Plame Outting

The guy is dumb as can be!

[PatSeg]

88. He does tend to be consistent

but occasionally he's right. Could just be the odds.

[democrat2thecore]

94. I don't know anybody who gets it ALL right, ALL the time -nt

[PatSeg]

101. True

I think Matthews problem is he tends to think out loud and often says things that are kind of off the wall. When he is firm in his convictions, his whole demeanor changes.

[Nutmegger]

86. Edwards will surprise all ...

Even those here.

[fightindonkey]

87. Even If Edwards Wins Iowa, He Won't Get The Nomination

Iowa has never elected a woman to higher office. Nationally, Edwards is not going to fair well and Democrats know this.

[Andromeda]

100. I would be pleasantly surprised

if Edwards rallied.

[murbley40]

91. kick

[WheelWalker]

96. kick!

[zulchzulu]

97. It's going to be Obama, Edwards, Biden, Clinton, Richardson, Dodd, Kucinich, Gravel

I'll wager anyone...

[Think82]

98. That seems about accurate for Iowa.

[PatSeg]

102. For the most part, the media is clueless

as to what is going on on the ground in Iowa. They tend to focus on the big rallies, which evidently don't influence serious voters in Iowa.