During Edwards interview on CBS w/Scheiffer he talked about the DeMoine Register

[Ninga]

candidate endorsement interview.

Edwards clearly stated that his view on what needs to happen with the entrenched corporate interest was a point of contention with the editorial board.


Over these past many months I have read over and over on this board, the shrill and meanspirited voices who write over and over that Edwards can't be trusted because he panders.

Well he sure as hell didn't pander to the DeMoine Register editorial board did he?

It's a three way tie in Iowa - Edwards hasn't raised the kind of money Clinton and Obama has - and the Register endorsement would have helped.

But Edwards has stuck to his guns, been true to his message even if it meant a "heated discussion" with the editorial board.


I want to put to rest, here and now, and say to those detractors who have tried their very best to chop Edwards down at the knees.......he is more progressive and gets what needs to happen in DC more than any other candidate to date.

Edwards scares the crap out of the insurance companies......and we all know it.....

[waiting for hope]

1. Happy to be #5 -

Kick and Rec - :yourock: Ninga!

:hi:

[ultraist]

61. Happy to be #84! lol. YouTubes of Sunday Morning Shows

Senator Edwards was on three Sunday Morning shows yesterday.

Face the Nation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpbM5TG696A

This Week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6_qP9IGTfA

Late Edition: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LYK5UQMNaQ

WOW!

[ChiciB1]

2. I Didn't See The Interview... But I Heard He Was Going To Be On CNN...

Hope I didn't miss it and am going to check CNN out. C-Span DID say they endorsed Hillary, but do tell? What else is new?? Guess they didn't buy Obama all that much even with "his" extra help.

But I DO agree that John Edwards IS THE ONE!!

Go, Johnny, GOOOOOOOO!

And I'm GOING to see if I missed him on CNN!

[Catchawave]

4. He's on This Week with GeorgeS

[Ninga]

6. And Edwards was very strong in that interview too.

[Ninga]

5. I am sure the CBS interview will be YouTubed and he did very well on THIS WEEK w/ George S.

But his mention of the Register endorsement interview during his appearance on CBS was very enlightening.

John has met his waterloo and it is his passion and focus to finally take on entrenched interests.

I am sure Chici that we will get to see that interview before the end of today.

Hugs and Hi to you from snowy Ohio

:hi:

[Triana]

3. Edwards scares the crap out of corporations - he'll equalize their power...

..and upset the status quo that keeps them swimming in money at the expense of the rest of us; and at the expense of the economy, at the expense of our jobs, at the expense of our health and wellbeing and ability to survive, and at the expense of the environment.

It seems the DMR does't mind Edwards TALKING about "Two Americas" as long as he doesn't deign to DO anything about. As long as he was only talking, in 2004, they didn't seem to mind.

Well I support Edwards because he is THE ONLY CANDIDATE who is willing or qualified to DO something about too-powerful and predatory corporations that are running this country into the ground and the country's people along with it.

He'll take 'em down a notch or two and that NEEDS to happen. He'd be a president for the people, not JUST special interests and corporations.

[chimpymustgo]

9. "It seems the DMR does't mind Edwards TALKING about "Two Americas" as long as he doesn't deign to DO

anything about (it)".

You hit the nail on the head, Triana. Edwards was EXCELLENT on FTN - calm, but committed - speaking truth to power. He's hitting his stride for the home stretch.

[Andy823]

36. Good post

That pretty much says it all in my book, thanks!

[mac2]

62. Corporations need regulation

or they destroy themselves and everything around them. They have no morals or ethics and go toward profit above all else. This was policy that was known at the turn of the century. Seems we learn little of our history.

It might surpirse some people but we do have laws on the books to monitor and control them. The states have failed to do it. The fines used to be very big. Corporations are responsible to the community. They ruin many today. They steal markets, patents, and technology selling it over seas. This is fraud and robbery...lawlessness.

[Little Star]

7. K&R for truthiness!!!!

[saltpoint]

8. Rec 10.

A lot of activist progressives in Iowa this morning are speaking to each other over blueberry muffins and scrambled eggs that they're going right ahead and voting for the candidate they planned to vote for prior to the REGISTER's endorsement.

Edwards, Biden and Obama are all drawing significant support in Iowa right now. Obama appears to be in the lead. HClinton had the lead but has lost it.

[polichick]

11. I see Iowans as thinking for themselves too...

Perhaps they'll cancel their subscriptions.

[saltpoint]

12. Agree. These folks know they've got first-ups and my guess is they're

really going to make it count.

The REGISTER pleased HClinton voters, certainly and understandably, but didn't do anything for everybody else except deepen their resolve to alter its headlines on January 4th.

This could get good.

[Ninga]

22. Be still my heart......I have my 2 seatbelts fastened.....rocky ride ahead!!!

:hi:

[saltpoint]

27. Hi there, Ninga. Good post, as per your usual.

18 more days!

:hi:

[ooglymoogly]

56. There appears to me to be a lot of delusional holy rollers in Iowa.

which are the rocks in the road to a bumpy ride. But may the gods bless John Edwards and sanity rule.

[burythehatchet]

10. Let me tell you why he will not concede that point

His biggest weakness to attack is the trial lawyer/ambulance chaser/frivolous lawsuit label. By making the battle against entrenched corporate power so prominent in his campaign, he is effectively neutralizing that weakness. When he gets attacked on that, it will actually reinforce his message.

[ChiciB1]

20. Calling Edwards An Ambulance Chaser Is Not Correct... He Went After

big business, not "frivolous" lawsuits LIKE ambulance chasers do! He took on cases to represent the little guy against the very same corporations he's talking about.

I "could" have missed it, but where did you see him "dodge" questions about what you are saying??

[balantz]

24. Abraham Lincoln was an "ambulance chaser" for more than 20 years

before he was elected POTUS.

[burythehatchet]

26. see below. I think some people misunderstood.

[amandabeech]

33. He spent a lot of time defending the railroads, too.

I wasn't aware that he was a plaintiff's tort lawyer.

[balantz]

34. Unfortunately everybody's got some dirt.

[Ken Burch]

48. 'course, it was easier then since the ambulances were horse-drawn.

The patients were more likely to die on the way to the hospital, but at least the lawyers could keep up.

:sarcasm:

[balantz]

50. Ha ha ha ha

And they had to walk in a lot of horse shit! No wonder they needed such a big cut!

:hi:

[burythehatchet]

25. you miss my point. That's the image they will try to create

but he has insulated himself from damage. They cant swiftboat him very easily.

[balantz]

28. I understand what you're saying, the neutralizing thing.

I agree with your observation. I was just pointing out the argument that Lincoln, perhaps the greatest president ever, was also a lawyer, and for most of his life.

[ChiciB1]

29. Okay... "My Bad" Or Missing The Point! Thanks For Clarifying n/t

[Madam Mossfern]

13. Did you use the term "shrill" in the OP?

What a sexist!:silly:

[Enrique]

14. the Register might have done Edwards a favor

that "anti-coporate rhetoric" part only increases his credibility.

[frogmarch]

15. Good for Edwards!

An endorsement from the DesMoines Register would have been helpful, but so will his response to not having rec'd it.

[mac2]

58. Newspaper support for candidates

Ever since Bush came to power many newspapers are falling over themselves to support his agenda and candidates. I sometimes wonder if he ownes or sends them our tax dollars (propaganda funds). Certainly seems that way with the Chicago Tribune (home of Bob Novak). They endorsed Bean and Obama which made me suspicious of their real cause for Democrats to rule.

A lawyer defends his client. That's his job. Get over his ambulance chasing. His clients regarding medical malpractice had good reason.

In the US many medical liability cases don't even go to court. More of them should since our medical community has become very sloppy and greedy. Just check it out on the Public Citizen web site. We are now in the high thirties down the list regarding health care in the world.

[balantz]

16. Our man Edwards has the fire of Truth in his heart.

You can't hold back the Truth. It will come shining through the lies that keep this nation from fulfilling its greater destiny.

[mac2]

59. I hope so.

He did attend the behind closed doors elite meeting of Bilderburg. I'm not at all happy about his insurance health care plan.

I feel he's the only choice right now.

As the American poet Robert Frost wrote, “Some say the world will end in fire; some say in ice.” Either, he notes, “would suffice.”

[loudsue]

67. I think that his attendance at the Bilderberg meeting is part of what

made him even MORE cognizant of the power brokering going on against the interests of the people.

I see Edwards' experience in all of this as part of his growth as a candidate over the years.

I'm supporting him in the primary. And I was formerly one of those who really didn't want Kerry to choose him for VP. My opinion of him has evolved as he has evolved.

[K Gardner]

17. Did you see his interview on Late Edition? Wow.. he went into

a bit of detail about his "disagreements" with the editorial board. He said the board felt that he should compromise with Big Corporations, Gas & Oil, Insurance, etc. He refused to cave or even SAY he would compromise. Hopefully we can get a transcript. Interesting, after that info, to see who they chose. Good for Edwards !

[Ninga]

23. Thank you, you made my point. Edwards far from panders. He is tough.

[Clark2008]

64. Just a hunch... but I'm betting that it will come out later that

this event didn't occur.

And then he'll have to apologize for misrepresenting what was said in this interview on Late Edition.

Personally, I think his diatribe stinks of self-promotion.

I really do.

[Lugnut]

18. I want a leader who scares the crap out of

Insurance companies. I want a leader who I think will do everything he can to stand up for me.

[ChiciB1]

19. I Just Caught The Interview... He Really Handled It Well!! It's More Than

sad that his message gets trashed BECAUSE those in POWER want to keep it under wraps. His answers and his calm, intelligent explanations on issues are commendable!

What I found interesting is that the Obama campaign is now sending out mailers pointing to his China vote... but Edwards came right back by explaining how "they" have voted for NAFTA & CAFTA without being nasty or holier than thou!

Day by day, Edwards shows more maturity and I sincerely, and I mean sincerely DO believe he's what we need as a real start to getting back on the correct track of what America is all about!

[Ninga]

21. Chici, glad you saw it. Yes, you are right, his is getting better all the time.

[ChiciB1]

30. KICK!! Hanging With "Our" Guy! n/t

[Inspired]

31. Yes, he said they had major disagreements and he did NOT back down.

Good for John Edwards.

You want change in our country? Then you need to fight the people who have blocked the change we say we want.

In the 90's, we were told to expect universal health care. What did we get instead? NAFTA. That is NO accident folks and it was caused the special interests that John Edwards intends on fighting with everything he has.

[Ninga]

39. I sense a shift in the political wind....

[lisainmilo]

32. Integrity, Guts, and Soul

That is Edwards!
He doesn't waver!

[Ninga]

40. May I quote you? And welcome to the most exciting primary in history.

:hi:

[lisainmilo]

66. Yes, you may, and....

Not only is this the most exciting..It is the most important election we will ever have. We will either remain the status quo, or we will be a government for the people by the people. As I have heard John Edwards say, America is not just a place it is an idea. Our ideals have been tossed by the wayside by the most corrupt leaders since the Hoover Era. Laws have been manipulated and changed in such a manner that if it is not restored has opened the "power door", as we have seen with Bush's power grab. Believe me when within 2 weeks of taking office (as posted by KPete), they had planned to wiretap us, they have already laid plans for the next leader THEY want, which in my opinion is a corporate, warmongerer, official who is already in the "in" group. To me, our only hope is John Edwards.

[lumberjack_jeff]

35. Exactly. When he wins he will dance with the ones that brung him.

Apologies to Molly Ivins.

I'm not overmuch interested in the candidates records. I am interested in what they are promising today.

[robinlynne]

37. And the insurance companies scare the crap out of me. I'm with Edwards.

[frogcycle]

38. Edwards is to corporations

what RFK was to the mafia

[EV_Ares]

41. K&R, thanks for a good positive outlook on this. However, I think they

may have done him some good and possibly Obama as well. From all the comments they are getting, almost all are negative as nobody that reads what they actually say in the endorsement for Hillary can see where they come up with any logical reasoning for endorsing her from their page. Really crazy.

Yeah, Edwards has stood fast in his beliefs.

[joeybee12]

42. Oh please...he should have handled it like Joe Biden did...

...they all interviewed, tried for the endorsement, HIlary got it, good for her, move on.

[youngharry]

46. Edwards vs Hillary

Hillary is nothing less than Bush regarding her foreign (war) policies. It should have been Gore, but lacking him, there are only two choices for Democrats--Kucinich and Edwards. Unfortunately Kucinich doesn't have the national base that Edwards has, so the logical and most honest answer is John Edwards. We should all vote Edwards and not split the primary votes with Kucinich as that will allow Hillary to slip thorough. LET'S BE TOTALLY HONEST HERE.

[rucognizant]

55. I agree!

I have been a strong Kucinich supporter.............BUT watching closely. Both talk the talk, sincerely; Edward's law experience, trumps Kucinich at the end of the day!

[Plucketeer]

43. We faithful -

- on DU and elsewhere, we see and FEEL the rightness, the truth and the sincerity that John exudes. My worry is whether or not OTHERS will see it as the same.

For me, the local paper's slant wouldn't mean much. Of course, OUR local paper's simply a conservative sounding board that's good for classifed ads at best. Like the rest of the media - they push what they like and ignore the rest. There's been sparse page space for Edwards of late, whereas Hillary and Obama sop up columns of print! Like's been said here - I think they're not at ease with JE's promises..... and that's a GOOD thing!
I got to spend a bit of time on the edge of Iowa about 2 years ago. Great folks! Good, hearty, NO-BS kinda people. I'm gonna trust their good judgement cause I know that fair and logical folks will HAVE to choose John. There's really no better course correction for this once proud nation than John Edwards!

:dem:

[oasis]

44. kick

[EVDebs]

45. #48 and more sure to come. BTW,

http://web.archive.org/web/20021220054102/http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/primetime/DailyNews/FBI_whistleblowers021219.html

Called off the trail. Maybe Edwards is the only candidate who can effectively investigate this !

[onehandle]

47. Go John! nt

[Infinite Hope]

49. K&R for the once-in-a-lifetime maverick who is Edwards.

[mzmolly]

51. Good point. If anyone was worthy of a "pander" it's the Des Moines Register.

:hi:

[babylonsister]

52. Pander, schmander, as I think it was posted at one time. For whom,

I don't recall. Nice post. I hope everyone's candidate wins, and us Dems are so damned lucky with our field vs. the 'enemy's'. Even the rethug's flag-wavers are having second thoughts.
It's all good.

[MalloyLiberal]

53. The media hates Edwards because he thinks they need to be regulated

[mac2]

60. Regulated and jailed

The lied us into war and an evil\illegal President. Regulated is the least of what they should get. Seems they arrogantly destroy our democracy for their own power (and misguided reasons).

[Connonym]

54. K&R because Edwards is the man

I had hoped for Gore or Feingold. I like Kucinich but I really think that of our options Edwards is the one who is most likely to kick ass and take names.

[kenfrequed]

57. If

If he was going to make a big deal out of it and tout his disgust with the Des Moines Register, then why didn't he do it on the best platform he was given?

The debates themselves.

If he had spoken up on stage for Kucinich I would be a lot happier with Edwards being my second choice.

[Clark2008]

63. My husband works in the insurance industry and they are NOT

scared of Edwards.

:eyes:

[Mark D.]

65. Scared How

Edwards, Clinton and largely the Obama plan are just copies of the pro-insurance Romney plan at work now in Massachusetts. Yes, they 'cover everyone' but do nothing to reduce what those with coverage will see, a continual rise in premiums, copays, deductables. Forcing folks to by insurance who'll not buy it now because it's simply too expensive, or they pay a fine (that goes to insurance cos).

This solves one part of the problem but funnels more money to those heartless corporations. Also, only those below a ridiculously low poverty line get help. As soon as they can barely make a living the help is removed and they're saddled with a $500 per month 'budget' plan with copays so high they don't use it, and only have it to avoid bankruptcy for a severe emergency that involves high medical costs.

The new bankruptcy laws was just another payback to insurance lobbyist gifts. Because of it, the idea that one who had no coverage could use it to thwart loosing their house over a hospital bill is gone, so in its own way it 'mandades getting coverage' (like Edward's plan does).

Now, I don't expect he'll change horses, even if nominated, to go single payer. We'd like to hope that he would should he get in power, but that's when most candidates run from the most progressive aspects of their proposals. Dennis Kucinich wouldn't, but I can't think of anyone else running who would be as unshakable in his stance on such issues.

Now Dennis as VP might help, but if Edwards gets that nomination, he'll likely tap Hillary or Obama, we know that, it's a given. My worry is folks will, once this insurance company friendly plan is in place, think 'we're all set now'. No we are not. The only thing some folks understand is a wall against their backs though. So until it costs $2,000 for a budget, bottom of the barrel insurance plan for a typical family, per month, many may not rise in the kind of revolt we need to demand universal care that is single-payer, not for profit, just like the perfect plan Dennis has in mind.

How is it progressive? How does John scare insurers when John's plan is no better than what Romney would probably push for? We need real progressive change. Yes, John is better than Hillary/Obama in my view, and better than any GOP, for the job. But barely, I know he's more electable, but I hope he brings real change when elected.

That won't be by handing insurance companies a lot more business at our expense. He says 'he'll fight them'. How? They WANT the Romney - then Hillary - then Edwards type plan, mandated coverage is dollar signs to them with 'help' only for the most poor, paid for with tax dollars. Insurance companies milk us for enough, we don't need this kind of new subsidy for them.