So, are the Clarkies lining up behind Hillary - as per the General's orders? Please weigh in.

[chimpymustgo]

Just wondering. Hillary would seem to be anathema to what Clark supporters saw in their candidate. Yet - he's endorsed her. Dilemma?

[MonkeyFunk]

1. Not at all

I was a Clark supporter in '04, a Clinton supporter in '08.

[maddiejoan]

35. Same here

[Adelante]

2. No dilemma

He has a right to his judgment and I have a right to mine. And he wouldn't have it any other way.

Gobama

[skipos]

3. Nope. Biden is at the top of my list, Clinton at the bottom

I voted for Clark in 04 but his endorsement doesn't sway me at all. McGovern and other people I like have endorsed her. So what?

[MethuenProgressive]

4. 1 of DUs biggest Hill Lovers is now a ObamaManiac.

I perdict your flame bait thread will get to the greatest page - since it attacks Clinton and her supporters - how courageous of you!

[Tom Rinaldo]

5. There were No orders

Clark blogged with us at Clark Community Network after he endorsed her and he there expressed his hope that we would join him in supporting Clinton, if not immediately than later down the road. He also made it clear that regardless he valued our efforts on behalf of America, and that he hoped we would continue to work with him and WesPAC on a range of matters effecting America whether or not we followed his lead on Hillary Clinton. There are a number of Clarkies actively participating on behalf of WesPAC who have not endorsed Hillary Clinton - so No, there were no orders.

[rucky]

6. Clark is probably on her short list for VP.

and that would make the ticket more palatable. (Clark was my #2 last time)

[Adelante]

11. He is likely to be on most short lists for VP nt

[Captain Hilts]

39. One reason he's on the VP short lists is because he's short. That's actually important. nt

[Sinistrous]

7. Not this one. n/t

[truebrit71]

8. Not this Clarkie...not in a million years...

...

[Tuesday Afternoon]

9. No.

I have not lined up behind anyone, yet.

[bluedog]

10. no.....I will vote for Clinton because I want to!

no one has to lead some of us around by the nose to vote for the 1 they are endorsing.......I also wanted Clarke to run..but it was not to be..........

[Tom Rinaldo]

12. The only candidate other than Clark who would have been supported...

...by the vast majority (but obviusly not all) Clarkies was Al Gore. Russ Feingold was also well liked by many of us. Any your read on this is overly simplistic, which comes as no surprise. Many Clarkies value leadership abilities forged over long years of deep involvement facing issues important to America - particularly in the international arena. Hillary Clinton is not anathema to that at all. For many of us that presents somewhat of a problem with embracing either Obama or Edwards - though clearly many Clarkies have embraced one of those men also. We were never the group think mob that many tried to smear us as being. And almost all of us still honor the contributions Wes Clark has made and continues to make for our nation and our Party.

[Captain Hilts]

41. On what basis do you say the "vast majority" of Clarkies would have voted for Gore? nt

[Tom Rinaldo]

48. Just my time spent in online Clarkie circles, plus some basic logic...

Gore is a seasoned leader and he took very similar stands on most major issues as Clark.

[BeyondGeography]

13. No...and Wes will be a major asset to the Obama Administration

[Adelante]

21. Yes! He will

:patriot:

[onehandle]

14. I was a Clark and a Kerry supporter in 2004. This time it's Edwards for me.

If it is Hillary, Wes better be VP or in her Cabinet.

[CTyankee]

33. In perfect agreement with you here! I am for Edwards and hope he makes it.

If not, I am in a quandary. Some days my own case of "Clinton fatigue" sets in. Other days I like Obama, but my gut says he might turn out to be another Jimmy Carter -- a well meaning, even noble person but tied in knots in his presidency.

Regardless, I am with you on the idea of Clark getting to be either VP or in the cabinet. We really need his talent and the respect he commands around the world.

[cali]

15. What a moronic thread title

I wasn't a Clark supporter. I'm not a Clinton supporter, and it's easy to see what you're up to. Clark didn't order anyone to do anything. He endorsed Clinton. Simple as that. Why does his endorsement pose a dilemma for his erstwhile supporters? It doesn't.

[truebrit71]

16. Not moronic at all...but you're welcome to your own opinions...

....Simple straight forward question...if you supported Clark, are you now following his lead and supporting HRC....what is moronic about that?

Relax, go get a cup of coffee and put your feet up for a little bit...

[bluedog]

17. isn't that like asking.......are you supporting Obama

because Oprah says to do so?

[truebrit71]

18. ..still doesn't clarify why either is a moronic question...

:shrug:

[Cha]

54. No, because Oprah wasn't

running for Prez in 2004. I liked Clark until he endorsed the vapid warmongering hillary.

[Adelante]

19. The OP chose the phrasing as a put down of both Clark and Clinton

And both Clark supporters and Clinton supporters.

I chose to ignore the immaturity, but it doesn't mean this is a simple, straightforward question. Not at all.

[truebrit71]

23. Sorry I don't see it that way...

...and this is the first time that, IMHO, the General has been 100% dead wrong..

[Adelante]

26. Clark has a right to make his own decisions

Just as you do. Just as I do. However, the OP's phrasing portrays Clarkies as sheep following "orders" - an old smear carried forward from 2003 - already in this thread that is clearly not the case, as many are supporting other candidates, including myself. Reading DU any day of the week would have (and surely has) shown the OP that Clark supporters have not, in fact, gone en masse for Clinton, although many have, either on their own preference or because they join Clark's endorsement. That the OP calls that "following orders" is clearly an insult.

[cali]

32. It was based on a flat out lie. Clark never ordered his supporters

to support Clinton. Period.

[chimpymustgo]

40. Actually Cali, I used the term "orders" because it's the General. No big deal, really.

Sorry you took it that way. Please lighten up.

[cali]

45. Oh, please. You posted flamebait.

Don't complain when you get flamed for it.

[chimpymustgo]

46. Chill. nt

nt

[truebrit71]

50. Settle down Francis....

...are you the arbiter of what is and isn't flamebait?

:eyes:

Take a few "Get-Over-Yourself" pills and call us in the morning...

[cloudbase]

20. I resigned my commission

after he endorsed Clinton.

[DFW]

22. I know Wes Clark somewhat--enough to know he would do no such thing.

[youthere]

24. Not this one. I'm caucusing for Biden.

[Clark2008]

25. No... but I'll work for her if he's her VP choice

I'll just order some Clark for VP bumper stickers. LOL.

[Vickers]

53. "I'll just order some Clark for VP bumper stickers."

:rofl:

[Quixote1818]

27. No. I was a huge Clark fan but his endorsement hasn't effected me. nt

[Le Taz Hot]

28. Clark endorsed Clinton?

ROFLMAO!!! Color me surprised. NOT!

[TreasonousBastard]

29. Keep wondering about your flamebait. n/t

[chimpymustgo]

30. Why flamebait, TreasonousBastard? Just a question. nt

nt

[cali]

34. I despise the kind of disingenuity you're engaging in.

It's not just a question when you frame it as a lie. Clark never ordered anyone to support Clinton.

[Tom Rinaldo]

36. In fact Clark went out of his way to respect our own choices n/t

[Crunchy Frog]

31. Um, there are no general's orders.

He endorsed Hillary Clinton. He did not "order" his supporters to go along with it. He knows and expects that his supporters think for themselves.

For the record, I'm not lining up behind anybody, but of the front-runners, I am most favorably disposed towards Obama.

I do not like Edwards, and this little group attack of yours will not help to incline me more favorably towards him.

[chimpymustgo]

38. I wouldn't begin to try to sway the irrationality that pervades a handful of anti-Edwards zealots.

I know from Day 1, General Clark's endorsement of Hillary presented a dilemma for many Clark supporters. As the weeks have passed, I am wondering where his supporters are going?

[cali]

42. lol!!

As you're giving a stunning display, in this thread, of irrationality and disingenuousness, that comment deserves an award for cognitive dissonance.

[truebrit71]

51. And your post for sheer bloody-mindedness...

...if it bothers you that much WHY DO YOU KEEP POSTING IN THE THREAD?

Somewhere a village is missing someone....:eyes:

[Crunchy Frog]

44. No dilemma for me. I'm not supporting Hillary unless she's the actual nominee.

Same thing for Edwards. I'm not sure if you're accusing me of being an anti-Edwards zealot, but I really don't pay enough attention to him to play that role. You are free to engage in whatever namecalling and baseless accusations you want though. If you were not accusing me of being an anti-Edwards zealot, then I apologize for jumping to conclusions.

For the record, based on my observations of DU, I would say that the largest segment of Clark supporters have gravitated towards Obama.

[Tom Rinaldo]

56. Obama, Clinton, and Biden seem to be where his support mostly goes

with lots of exceptions to the rules. I think those three are fairly evenly matched in attracting ex Clarkies. It takes a flame repellent suit to advocate for Clinton on this Board, I think a lot of less pushy Clarkies who back Clinton don't show up as obvious.

[Tom Rinaldo]

47. You starting this thread worded the way you did would have been like me...

...starting a thread asking for Edwards supporters to tell me if they were "Sorry" to have to keep defending him after that YouTube video came out. Yes I know that the content would have been completely different, but not the tone. Given your past feelings you are the wrong one to be asking this question - and at the very least you should have been careful to frame it respectfully if you did. Instead you reintroduced an old attack line against Clarkies about us following orders from the General and inserted your own editorial spin into the question with your framing of Clinton and Clark.

I understand your curiosity, and no mortal sins were committed I admit, but your framing certainly doesn't motivate me to want to engage a a real discussion on this thread - which would only keep bumping your OP subject line up DU's page. I tried to time this post for after someone else bumping your thread.

[Captain Hilts]

37. She, Dodd and Biden are in a tumbler. Had to take Bill Richardson out of the running. nt

[Mz Pip]

43. Nope

and no dilemma either. I don't agree with Clark on everything. This is one of those things.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[acmavm]

49. Hell no.

[Eurobabe]

52. Nope. For now I'm with Biden

but if he drops out I'll go with either Edwards or Obama.

[tishaLA]

55. No

right now, I am supporting Sen Obama. But my support is not as steadfast as it was in 04

[Bonobo]

57. no.