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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:38 PM
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One of the reasons Hillary won in NH is people trusted her more on the economy. The evidence?
Berlin.

Berlin is a large town (city by NH standards) in Northern NH that was once a big paper mill town. I can remember driving near there 15 years ago and the smell was nearly overwhelming once you were within 10 miles- depending on the wind direction. The mills shut down and Berlin is now a very economically deprived place with a lot of poverty- and I mean real gritty poverty.

Berlin went overwhelmingly for Clinton and it was one of the few places where JE beat out Obama, albeit by a small margin. But Clinton got more than twice as many votes as Edwards.

This is a strong indication, I believe, that the worse the economy gets, the better Clinton will do.

Just my take on it.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:41 PM
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1. The exit polls show Clinton and Obama very close on the economy issue.
Very worried about the economy: 40-36 Clinton
Somewhat worried about the economy: 44-36 Obama

Slight edge to Obama for very/somewhat: 80-76.

Edwards received 18% and 15%, respectively.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:44 PM
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8. I know. But I know Berlin
and parsing the votes in NH, it was the wealthiest areas that went for Obama and the less wealthy areas that went for Clinton, and then there's Berlin...
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:47 PM
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11. As we should all know by now, personal anecdotal or local evidence does not indicate
proof of statewide or national concurrence.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:49 PM
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12. In general, I agree, but this isn't a personal anecdote
and local evidence can indeed be an indicator in a statewide race- particularly in a state like NH.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:53 PM
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13. Not if it contradicts real data from a statewide primary.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:41 PM
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2. The Clinton name is the only American talisman against hard times since FDR
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:42 PM
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3. Obama should have those votes
He needs to go to some of these impoverished areas, the white ones, and try to connect minority poverty and white poverty because it's all the same. He has much more empathy for impoverished people than the Clintons do, supports a living wage and help for men as well as women. Lots of things poor white folks would find attractive.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:42 PM
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4. The Clinton administration saw the longest, most sustained economic expansion
in the history of the world. Small wonder people would gravitate to Hillary now on the economy. After all, it is the economy, (stupid)! :-)
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Muttocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:44 PM
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7. Which Clinton was in office then?
I'm sorry, which one was President then? Which one is running now? I get confused.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:43 PM
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5. I dont know Cali.
The crying is the topic every single place I go. All Im hearing is straight up sympathy.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:45 PM
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9. But you know Berlin, right?
And the margin there really leads me to believe that this vote was all about the economy. That's how bad things are there.
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:54 PM
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14. Yeah. Ive been there many times.
I guess I just have a hard time with the huge 1 day shift vs. every single one of the polls. Everyone around here was saying they couldnt imagine a circumstance under which she could pull of a NH win. Id LOVE to believe there was an actual policy position behind it. But it just doesnt feel that way.
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1corona4u Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:44 PM
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6. Hmm....maybe it was this?
By BBC News Online's Steve Schifferes
President Bill Clinton will leave office with the longest boom in US history still intact.

But the rapidly slowing economy will leave questions for his successor about how to manage the downturn.

Mr Clinton also leaves the legacy of a huge and growing budget surplus, the product of years of bitter battles between Republicans and Democrats.




Just a guess.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-09-08 07:46 PM
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10. As the economy begins its contraction, many people will pine for "the good old days"
Edited on Wed Jan-09-08 07:47 PM by depakid
That's certainly one of the stronger cards that she has to play.

Never mind that Clinton & DLC policies had no small role to play in the mess the US is in. Most Americans won't look any deeper than what they've seen on the MSM.
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