I am telling you.

[Tennessee Gal]

Today I spoke to Democrats here in Tennessee who are afraid of Obama. It embarrassed me. They believe he is a Muslim. It emabrrassed me. They believe he will lead to the end of the United States. It embarassed me. I tried to reason with them. They would have none of it. And these are Democrats, not Republicans. It embarrassed me.

Edit for spelling.

[2rth2pwr]

1. the anti shirts are already out

[Cha]

20. What kind of repuke did Obama

say this bozo was?

[Renew Deal]

33. This seems like it's pro-Obama.

:shrug:

[Tennessee Gal]

49. I support Edwards.

You would know that if you had read all my posts.

[2rth2pwr]

70. oops, you're right. nt

[beachmom]

43. That's someone who is pro-Obama. n/t

[Pirate Smile]

73. That is a supporter of Obama at the Iowa caucuses.

Geez

[SharonAnn]

89. Yes. These Democrats didn't vote for Harold Ford, Jr, either.

[sandnsea]

2. Thank you for your concern n/t

[Barack_America]

3. How did they feel about Hillary?

I'm seriously curious. It seems to me that people who believe Obama is Muslim might also be of the "Hillary is the devil" variety. Who are they supporting?

[Seabiscuit]

4. I started seeing that meme go strong this week on CSPAN with the callers saying

the same bullshit. I'm an Edwards supporter till the end, but I understand your frustration when even some of our own are ill informed.

[NMDemDist2]

5. how do they like HRC?

I overheard two older ladies today at the Animal Shelter thrift store say "She's smart and experienced for sure, I just never cared for her" then they both agreed Richardson was cute (he's our Gov.)

no mention of Obama at all even though they were discussing the NH results

[Cha]

17. I mentioned Richardson's

dimples today..I'm shallow to say:)

[stillcool]

6. You should tell them..

to come to DU...they will find many like-minded people.

[cali]

7. thank you for your concern, Edwards supporter

and I just hate to break this to you but there have been several articles out of the South that contradict your personal experience. Not to mention that you must have been talking to all WHITE democrats. No African Americans in Tennessee? How odd. That's not what the stats say.

[Bonobo]

13. Why take a swipe at the OPs personal experience?

[cali]

22. Because I smell

"concern".

[Duppers]

111. have you ever been in the state of Tenn and talked with

those people?

I am from there (from, mind you, not residing) and I can tell you they'll believe any propaganda.

So please don't insult the OP.

[boston bean]

15. You still believe in the "stats"? Even after last night? nt

[cali]

18. I'm talking about demographics

yeah, I believe the statistics about that are accurate. Why wouldn't I?

[boston bean]

30. touche. nt

[no name no slogan]

8. Is it possible to cockpunch every Democrat in Tennessee?

We'll get started tomorrow morning.

[tnlurker]

9. My bother in law was the same way

Over Christmas when I saw him. His wife is Union member and he is a long term Democrat and was saying the same things. He lives in east TN now but grew up in west TN. He would not listen to reason either.

He actually said he would vote Republican if Obama was the nominee

[Cha]

25. WE'll be sorry to lose

the voters who would vote for fascists over a good Dem.

[demnan]

10. This is what a lot of people up North don't realize

I'll just talk about the general election here and then I'll come back to your comments (and didn't I say something about voter fraud all day yesterday and no one listened?) The Republicans will have a plan no matter who we pick and it will be like this:

Hillary Clinton is a witch a whore and murderer
Barak Obama is a Muslim, a socialist, etc.
John Edwards is gay, a communist whatever etc, etc,

Bill Richardson is etc etc

It doesn't matter. They play dirty. And they will infiltrate our party and place lies in and send stupid emails making accusations.

So beware my friends and only accept what you can verify as true before you pass it on.

[AlCzervik]

11. you've forgotten more then i'll ever know about Tenn so if this is true it's more than sad.

Muslim is being used like a slur and as the Aunt of 2 muslims it really bothers me, as a human it bothers me.

[Tennessee Gal]

12. Who do they support?

I got the impression it was mostly John Edwards.

I am an Edwards supporter, but not for the reason they stated.

I am embarrassed that those Democrats I encountered are so misinformed about Obama and so negative on Hillary for reasons that are totally illogical.

I support Edwards because I believe he is best for this country. Period.

[cali]

14. how come you only spoke to white dems?

and sorry, I ain't buying.

[Tennessee Gal]

24. cali, I don't care if you buy it or not.

I have no reason to lie.

The population where I live is 98% white.

The profession I am in is almost 100% white. I would prefer it were not that way, but it is.

[cali]

32. your OP is

simply a variation on the "be afraid, be very afraid if we don't vote for JE" meme. And anyway, we won't win Tennessee no matter who we nominate. Gore couldn't even carry his own state in 2000- as I'm sure you recall.

[Tennessee Gal]

38. cali, what does that have to do with what I posted?

I am telling you of my personal experience.

It has to do with ignorance encountered. It has nothing to do with my support of John Edwards. In fact, it has more to do with my fighting the ignorance displayed about Obama. If Obama or Hillary is the Democratic nominee, either one of them will get my support.

[vanboggie]

66. Problem, Cali?

Hey, I'm an Edwards supporter as well, but I defended Obama the other day. My daughter-in-law from Tennessee sent me that stupid Fw Fw Fw email spouting the Obama lies and I set her straight.

Tennessee Gal is just talking about what the talk is in TN.

[Tennessee Gal]

71. Exactly.

And the talk in my small town in Tennessee today was embarrassing to me. It is too bad that cali does not understand the meaning of my post.

[Tennessee Gal]

72. Why is cali posting a right wing talking point?

"Gore couldn't even carry his own state in 2000- as I'm sure you recall."

Care to answer, cali?

[cali]

108. lol. it's not a right wing talking point, it's a fucking fact

pathetic attack, Gal. Lame as it could possibly be.

[Tennessee Gal]

109. Well, you posted it.

I don't understand where you are coming from. I have made it as clear as I possibly can that the discussion embarrassed me not only because of what they were saying, but because they refused to listen to reason.

[MelissaB]

53. Go to TimesDaily.com in Florence, AL and read the forums.

This shit was posted there last week about Obama being a Muslim. It doesn't matter how many times it's corrected because people keep spreading shit.

[Anouka]

56. that's just sad

but it's people spreading false shit -- like people spreading the b.s. about Obama being disrespectful to the Pledge of Allegiance -- because people want to beleive the false shit more than the truth.

gotta keep spreading the truth, and not give up because the b.s. is spread so wide and so deep before you.

[Barack_America]

16. "so negative on Hillary for reasons that are totally illogical."

That's what I figured. They'll probably end up voting Republican (assuming Edwards doesn't get the nom). Was that your impression?

[Tennessee Gal]

19. No. They were Democrats. Hard core.

[Barack_America]

28. So they'd vote for Hillary if she got the nomination?

Or just not vote at all?

Sorry for asking so many questions, but your experiences sound a whole lot like the idiots where I'm from. I'm at school and out of touch with them, but curious about what they are thinking regarding this election.

[moriah]

36. Sadly, I saw it in AR too

My dad, for one.

He said he wanted Edwards, saying he'd "never vote for someone whose name I can't pronounce". I told him Edwards didn't want his vote if that was how he felt.

At least my mother (they are divorced) doesn't feel that way. She wants Obama.

I mentioned another coworker, and while I don't know exactly where she stands as far as who she has voted for before, but she said she wouldn't vote for Obama because he was too "foreign".

I posted about this in another thread, but I think that this is how the racism that may affect Obama among some voters will be couched. I don't think it's right at all, and have tried to correct those who do.

I'm still a Hillary supporter, but if you're going to attack someone attack them on their record or lack thereof, not the religion of their grandfather or the color of their skin.

[Pirate Smile]

75. When people get to know him, they will like him.

They love Obama in Iowa
by kos
Mon Jan 07, 2008 at 11:54:49 AM PST
SUSA's latest poll of Iowa shows Obama with ridiculous leads on his GOP rivals. I've edited in the results from SUSA's last Iowa poll 12/13-15.

Today, 01/07/08 …

Obama defeats McCain by 17 points. (+12)
Obama defeats Huckabee by 23 points. (+13)
Obama defeats Romney by 26 points. (+12)
Obama defeats Giuliani by 40 points. (+19)

Today, 01/07/08 …

McCain defeats Clinton by 4 points (within the margin of sampling error). (-1)
Huckabee and Clinton tie. (+1)
Clinton defeats Romney by 8 points. (+3)
Clinton defeats Giuliani by 16 points. (+5)



He has the reverse Rudy effect.

[goodgd_yall]

90. Don't mean to dis your state, but

I have a friend who had a terrible time in Tennessee where she was going to college. She observed a lot of bigotry. She is a strong woman who speaks up and from New York. She has very short hair. She was in a car accident and while a lot of white people just hung around and watched, it was a black woman who came forward and helped her. She really had a strong sense of being "the outsider."

[K Gardner]

21. You probably need to read an article from one of the E Tenn papers..

I haven't talked to anyone who is a Democrat who believes that shit. None.

I've gotten the emails from RW Wackjobs, but no Democrat I've spoken to, and I've lived here all my life, thinks that.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4013909&mesg_id=4013909

[Tennessee Gal]

29. Good for you.

I am simply relaying my personal experience of today.

[K Gardner]

37. Are you printing out factoids to take them? Trying to counter with facts?

"Good for you" doesn't tell me you're doing anything to counter the distortions. I would think, for any Democrat, that'd be an important thing to do for one of our presidential candidates. Do you have all the necessary links for places to go to for the correct information about Senator Obama? If not, I can provide them.

[Tennessee Gal]

41. Oh, yes.

I am strong on research and I knew just where to send them.

They would not listen.

It embarrassed me.

[Anouka]

55. When you have a list, is it possible for you to post it here

for everybody else?

[Tennessee Gal]

58. A list of what?

Fact checking sites?

http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/

http://snopes.com/

http://www.factcheck.org/

Can others contribute good sites?

[Anouka]

62. Thank you. n/t

[shaniqua6392]

23. I have a lot of relatives in the south

and they will NEVER in a million years vote for Obama because he is black. They still let the "N" word fly without any problems. Even their small children say it whenever they speak of someone who is African American. I just don't think he will swing some of these states in the south. Racism is still alive and well. How absolutely horrible. We have come a long way, but we still have a long way to go.

[Barack_America]

34. *sigh* It's not just the South. I have relatives in Michigan (nice avatar btw)...

who let that shit fly too. Needless to say, I have nothing to do with these people. Though they scare me shitless regarding how they're going to vote. They hate blacks, they positively, vehemently despise Hillary, yet they are Democrats. What does that mean should Edwards not get the nom? And their sentiment is shared by so many others in my area.

It will kill me to see Michigan turn red this election.

[shaniqua6392]

63. I know what you mean about the Michigan turning red. Yuck.

I also know what you mean about having relatives here who are racists too. It is mostly the older ones like my Dad and Step-Dad for me. My Dad always called them the "n" word but has now progressed to calling them "Africans" How politically correct. You should have seen his face when I told him, as an adult, that my first boyfriend/first kiss was African American and he was the sweetest thing!!! LOL! For the record they would have voted for Edwards because they will never vote for Obama and they can't stand Clinton. They liked Bill Clinton a lot, but not his wife. But they can never really come up with a reason to hate her and I think it is because she is a woman. As my daughters have told me....We will just have to wait until all of these crusty old white people die off so that their generation can make things better for blacks and for those who are gay. One can only hope.

[AX10]

105. Ras said that Hillary would get 58% against any Rethug. in Michigan.

[faithfulcitizen]

99. Not just the south, it's older rural folks in general.

I'm embarassed too but my mom just informed me that my great aunt and uncle will vote republican for the first time in their lives if Obama is the nominee. She didn't ask why, because she just knows. Now, they don't use the "n" word. Still, they're 75 years old and racist. But, what sucks for Obama is that 75 year olds always vote. Of course, people here will say we don't need the racist vote. But, there is still a soft racism across this country that persists in the baby boom generation too. It really scares me, but it's true. I just wish he would have waited this one out until the country had a chance to get to know him better. Just my opinion.

[ChiciB1]

100. Listen... I've Lived In The South Since I Was 11 Years Old... I Was Born

one day after Hillary Clinton, the SOUTH IS THE SOUTH, and I've seen some of the worst things happen in the SOUTH! Even though I was born in PA I was an Army brat, and there are some things that ALWAYS shock me.

My husband was born in Tampa, FL and that's how I got here, but right after I married him I couldn't believe what HIS family thought AND said about blacks. I let them know right away how I felt and I NEVER let any of them talk badly about them. I AM an Edwards supporter, but maybe you just have to live down here to understand. And Florida isn't even considered "deep" anymore!

I don't like it one bit!!

[AtomicKitten]

26. Some Americans are hard-wired to be impervious to truth.

Just keep preaching the truth and hope it sinks in.

[southernleftylady]

27. I live in Memphis..

and I know EXACTLY what you mean. I was HUGELY preggo the last election and I had "men" drive past me holding my sign and threaten me... what type of person threatens a preg. woman just holding a sign???
These people here.. I can not stand them!!!
But you know what.. its not just in the south.. I am a flight attendant and I see it every day all over this country...
Just this morning on CSPAN this "lady" called in and said "we hear so much about Mit being a Mormon why don't we hear about how Obama is a Muslim?" and I loved the CSPAN's guys responce... "Maybe because Obama is not Muslim?" and asked the caller where she heard that and she said the news she watches...
any guesses on what channel that is?
Its not just Obama or Hillary.. its anyone who isnt a old white man

[THUNDER HANDS]

31. I was speaking with a legal aid attorney

who was upset Obama went to a "radical muslim school" when he was a kid.

This is a legal aid attorney. An attorney that represents drug dealers and child molestors and people who beat the crap out of other people. You wouldn't peg her as a right-winger.

Oh, btw, she hates Hillary too.

[Barack_America]

39. Of course she does. Those sentiments seem to go hand-in-hand...

Which makes me VERY nervous about this election.

At least Obama has that ability to make people swoon and cry. He might be able to change their minds once they hear him speak. But Hillary? They hate her more with every word she utters. There's nothing she can do to win them over.

[Honeycombe8]

35. Well, that IS Tennessee. They didn't call him a "macaca" did they?

Seriously, there is a racial bias more so in the south, we keep hearing. So this does not surprise me.

Don't worry. Obama is not expected to win a number of the southern states, anyway. His staff knew this going in, I'm sure.

Are they scared of Hillary being a "weeping woman" who will throw her hands up in despair about the problems of America, and thrust the country into turmoil?

[K Gardner]

42. You know, I really have to be suspicious about some of this. The people who are ignorant and

racist enough to believe shit like that are voting Republican anyway. Yes, there is still bias in the South.. but no more than anywhere else and for god's sakes, let go of the stereotypes. Not you, just in general. We actually did move into this century with everyone else.

[Anouka]

50. They're voting for the white person, not the Republican -- or the Democrat.

That's the difference. She just said these are Democrats. This is pitiful, but it's not about party affiliation. It's about people. It is not ok to say that 'oh these people vote Republican'. No.

These people are *Registered Democrats*.

Why are registered Democrats feeling this way?

(and yes, we have to consider that there may be a Bradley effect for women as well; but if there is........... what does that say about the success of women versus blacks in America? it may be good, but it also just may be that race trumps gender after all.)

This has to be examined. And it has to be dealt with. Why concede otherwise faithful Democrats votes to Republicans? It's the same as saying the Democrat party might as well never run blacks except in specially gerrymandered districts because otherwise faithful Democrats will vote white Republican.

Doesn't that bother you?

How can this be rectified? How can the soul of the Democratic Party be made purer and cleaner? Just waiting for them to die? or is there a way to change hearts and minds?

I really think that Obama can be that change in hearts and minds.

We just have to be dilligent about getting real information out there.

[gateley]

67. I agree that Obama might be able to change hearts and minds if he's a good

President (and god help whoever steps into that office next). If he screws up, it'll be because he's black. If he does well, I'm hopeful that people will stop SEEING him as black.

I THINK people stopped viewing Colin Powell that way.

[goodgd_yall]

91. Yeah, but Colin Powell came from the military

And the military is practically worshipped by many in this country.

[knowledgeispwr]

97. That's something that worries me about a Obama or Clinton presidency

That if either screws up, it'll be because of their being woman/non-white. I think either would make a fine president though.

Also, I think some would use voting for Obama as "absolution" from prejudice. "I voted for Obama" will become the new "Some of my best friends are black.

Oh well, baby steps I guess.

[moriah]

45. Southern Democrats

... there are a lot of Southerners who are registered Democrats, and vote for Democrats for local and state offices, and many times for House and Senate, but have a long voting record on presidential elections for going Republican.

And those are the ones that are going to be targeted by the Republicans who attack our nominee for her gender, his race, or his $400 haircuts.

I've had a hard time watching "Washington Journal" for a long time due to the sheer ignorance of many of the callers. I'm not surprised that the myth that Obama is Muslim is being espoused there.

Don't forget that once they decide he's Christian, they start attacking his church... that because they say on their website "We are an African people, and remain 'true to our native land,' the mother continent, the cradle of civilization" that he's not patriotic, and pull out that video of him failing to put his hand over his heart while the National Anthem was sung.

It's a shame. It's a damn shame.

[Tennessee Gal]

47. What does that mean?

Do you think Tennessee is full of ignorant hillbillies? It isn't. These were educated professional people. That is why I was embarrassed.

Don't put this on prejudices against Tennessee or the South in general.

Do you think I am an ignorant hillbilly?

[H2O Man]

40. Yeah.

[Anouka]

44. "IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII'm not go-innnnnnnnnnng" (with feeling)

come on, nobody thought that reading Tennessee Gal's headline?
Alright, it's just me, then. Heh.



TG, you can't worry about them. And you can't browbeat them into an epiphany just because they like you (as I think has happened elsewhere); all you can do is tell them the truth. Those emails should have never went out from those two Clinton aides :( but I guess the problem started long, long before them. They just got the information from the rightwingers, right?

I'm glad the Clintons canned them. I hope the Clintons had nothing to do with sending them out. I really hope.

Just give them the truth. Let it percolate. Be as graceful and dignified as Obama. Don't make it about his race. Keep making it about policies.

And then, try to get them to hear him speak when (if?) he's in Tennessee. It might not change many minds, but it may change some.

There's a horrible problem in this country. It just makes Iowa seem that much more significant. I hope Iowa wasn't a fluke.

This can be done, though.

[TomClash]

46. It should embarrass every American

Otherwise you are not a patriot.

And, yes, it is very disheartening.

[Anouka]

52. I agree. but even more disheartening

is the number of people who don't want to see where this leads the Democratic Party, and think it's ok for these voters to vote for Republicans..... just because the candidate of their own party, has skin a different color.

But yes, this is embarassing to America.

Thank you God, for Iowa. But we can do better.

[gateley]

68. It actually makes me really sad. nt

[jasmine621]

48. Remember, most of these people listen to Rush Limbaugh everyday.

Hopefully they won't even vote.

[Anouka]

51. Why are Democrats listening to Rush Limbaugh?

It is not a party problem. It is a people problem.

Democrats need to deal with the fact that: yes, Virginia, racists are in the Democrat party, too.

Instead of ignoring, we need solutions for it. These people do vote Democrat. They just won't vote for black Democrats. It's not ok that they will vote by race. It's not ok at all. That damages the Democratic Party, and makes it look like a party of hypocrisy.

We can do better.

In the meanwhile, maybe, just maybe, 'clean, articulate' (good lord, Biden.. but now I think there was a method to his madness) respected Barack Obama can be part of that solution.

[Tennessee Gal]

54. Yes, we can do better.

I am trying.

[Anouka]

57. Thank you.

And thank you for reporting this. And thank you for being out there putting walk to your talk.

[DivorcingNeo]

59. Preach!

Truth...Keep stating it!

:applause:

[rainy]

60. My hair dresser asked me about him one day. Asked, "do you think he is a

Muslim trying to infiltrate the US? I set her straight. I really think she just didn't know anything about politics and asked a very dumb question.

[Tennessee Gal]

61. The ignorance is astounding.

[rucky]

64. Rumors aside, these people wouldn't vote for him anyways...

the mass email lies just give them a reason that's "acceptably" racist.

[Tennessee Gal]

65. You may be right.

And, as a 56 year-old Southerner, I find that EXTREMELY offensive.

[fadedrose]

69. What a compliment to Gore that he didn't carry Tennessee (nt)

[bullwinkle428]

74. Thom Hartmann, the talk-radio host, said that he receives several

of these pathetic smear-Obama e-mails every day! His point was that this smear campaign is already operating at full steam and there is going to be a certain percentage of the population that unfortunately will get suckered by this crap and this will become cemented in their minds.

He stated that Obama needs to get in front of this quickly and directly - a caller to his show contradicted him somewhat, saying that until the Republican nominee is essentially decided, there is no one for him to actually confront and say "Do you agree with this?"

Edit: I forgot to add that he thinks that the religion thing (false Muslim charge) is MUCH more likely to be the central theme of the smear campaign than his racial background, simply because anti-Muslim sentiment is "acceptable" in the eyes of many more people...

[JohnnyLib2]

76. Thank you for trying to discuss this ugly part of 2008

The subject itself is so darn touchy on DU--but it sure isn't going away.

[Tennessee Gal]

77. I love the South.

More specifically, as a Tennessee native, I love Tennessee.

The entire discussion I encountered today was so surprising I cannot think of a word more appropriate then "embarrassing." I hope my posts have been indicative of the extent of my sadness for my region of the country and my home state.

[gateley]

78. It's not just your State and region, but I understand your sadness. nt

[Tennessee Gal]

80. Perhaps we should feel sadness for the entire nation.

Perhaps there is ignorance throughout the nation. If others have encountered the same ignorant responses from Democrats they should share them.

[gateley]

86. It's not just Dems whose ignorance makes my heart heavy -- I feel the same

way when I hear this crap from anyone, regardless of party affiliation.

[ooga booga]

107. I'm a Texan and I could easily imagine a similar scenario here.

The problem for us Democrats in the middle of the country in "Flyover America" is that we can see that the Democratic Party doesn't seem to be tuned in to the way things are and what we see all around us in our section of America. Then, after the presidential election is over when it's too late to do anything, everyone's looking at the electoral map and saying, "Wow! Look at that huge mass of RED in between the coasts! What happened there?"

In 1988, Michael Dukakis happened. In 2004, John Kerry happened. In those two cases, neither of those two Bay Staters appealed to Middle America nor knew how to reach out to Middle America, but both managed to capture the Democratic nomination and drive it into the ditch. The same scenario is quite possible if Hillary Clinton gets the nomination. I'm also worried about Barak Obama, but less worried than about Hillary. I see John Edwards as the best chance to get a good outcome in "Flyover America." Now, he could have trouble, too. I just think he'll have a better chance in the middle of the country. Sad to say but part of it is because he's not black and he's not Hillary Clinton.

[vanboggie]

79. So I'm just over on a Michigan horse discussion board

And what's one of the first topics?
"Did you know obama is muslim someone was telling me that.."
http://www.horsepage.com/board/messages/118482.html

I gotta say whoever got this bunch of lies going was good. Anybody seen Turdblossom? He must be in a corner somewhere with this email just Fw Fw Fw Fw'ing it everywhere.

Geesh!

[MelissaB]

81. Yep. On my hometown board, too.

http://forums.timesdaily.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/6501027316/m/6211029486

:(

[K Gardner]

82. Here are the anti-smear links to counter this crap with..

I posted them here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4017318

[vanboggie]

95. Thanks! n/t

[Tennessee Gal]

84. Counter the lies.

Apparently it is going on everywhere.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_barack_obama_muslim.htm

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/01/22/obama.madrassa/

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/19/fox-obama-madrassa

http://mediamatters.org/items/200612200005

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_Barack_Obama_a_Muslim

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/28/AR2007112802757.html

I support the truth.

[K Gardner]

88. Thanks for compiling these. Maybe they should go in the Obama Supporter Group

or somewhere on this site where people can easily re-find them?

[Tennessee Gal]

93. Even though I support Edwards, I do not support lies about Obama.

[faithfulcitizen]

101. My Mother in law sent it to me, and we had words over it.

She and her husband still believe that he "has a different mindset" because of his muslim background. She's as ignorant as they come, but she votes without fail.

[Samantha]

83. I am originally from Tennessee but something happened yesterday

that surprised me more than your statement.

My hairdresser is from Iran. She is an American. She is also Muslim. I asked her who she was supporting yesterday. She answered the question and volunteered she is afraid of Barack Obama because of the rumors he is Muslim. I really could not imagine that.... She's a wonderful, intelligent person ....

[Tennessee Gal]

85. See previous post.

[moriah]

87. ...

Your hairdresser is Muslim and is afraid of Obama because he is "Muslim"?

now THAT's bad.

(fixed to indicate that yes, I know the smears are false, put the "Muslim" in qutoation marks)

[Samantha]

92. I asked her why, I thought it was so curious

She said she was afraid he might be one of the fundamentalists. I truly do not understand it.

As someone originally from Tennessee, I do know how many people from this area receive this kind of false notion -- it spreads through the politicians who have grips on church congregations (I say THAT from experience within my own family) and through other organizations such as work places. People do not do a lot of their own research; they simply take what they are told from people they trust as, pardon the expression, gospel.

[Tennessee Gal]

94. No, people do not do enough of their own research.

Use the links I have provided to counter the lies.

[LucyParsons]

96. Same here in Texas.

Not in Austin, where I am fortunate to be - but Behind the Pine Curtain my mom is hearing all sorts of crazy shit.

[Barack_America]

98. What do they think of Hillary in Texas?

Or need I even ask? lol

[FrenchieCat]

102. Well, you had two choices....

to have been an educated fighter and informed them that he was not.

Or to have ran away with your tail between your legs and hid behind John Edwards, the Great White Hope?

Funny how people want someone else to "fight" for them.......but they ain't ever willing to fight for a damn thing.

You want our Democrats to stand up, but all you can do is get embarrassed? Was it because he was Black that you were embarrassed, or was it because you had to deal with dumbass folks who call themselves Democrats? Must have been the same folks that thought Ford would try and date their daughters, hey?

I'm so sick and tired of stoopid ass posts like this. Lookit, we're gonna go backwards, cause we is skeered! :scared:

[Tennessee Gal]

106. You have a lot of nerve.

I stood up for Obama. I stood up for what is right. I offered them evidence of the fallacy of what they were saying.

I am an Edwards supporter. I did not have to stand up for Obama.

Do you have the integrity to do what I did?

[Egnever]

103. Wouldnt suprise me a bit.

Tenesse isnt going our way anyway is it?

[Tennessee Gal]

104. Bottom line for me.

Support the candidates you support, but do it with the facts. Do it with truth. Do not do it with innuendo, rumor, or lies.

[youthere]

110. I certainly hope you took the time to set them straight.

[rhyden77]

112. Bridge to Nowhere

If you hate this present administration, please go to this link on Youtube and hear a song I wrote called "Bridge to Nowhere". This explains our country's frustrations with this present administration. Don't miss it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw44-sFLuEw

Randy