Is it true, that Obama just isn't going to be able to beat the Establishment?

[Thrill]

Outside of Durbin and Conrad, none of the US Senators have the backbone to go against the Clintons. Seriously, that in my opinion is very disturbing. And one I think all Democrats should be concerned about. Do the Clinton's have that much of a hold on the Party?

[readmoreoften]

1. What makes you think he wants to "beat the establishment"?

As far as I can tell his goal is to become the establishment.

[DURHAM D]

23. Exactly -

at this moment I am not certain he is even a Democrat.

[jackson_dem]

24. His message is the same as Bloomberg's

[ProudDad]

31. Too late

already is...

[jasmine621]

2. If by "establishment" you mean the white male sourthern vote...

yes.

[Thrill]

7. No I mean the establishment that is the

Clinton Democratic Party.

I live in NC, and people around here like Barack better than Edwards

[Superman Returns]

3. Johnson endorsed him

today.

[AtomicKitten]

4. The Clinton Machine was schooled in dirty politics by their GOP adversaries.

And now they are twisting arms, calling in favors, and livid that Obama had the audacity to run for president and trying to hamstring him at every opportunity (Muslim, cocaine dealer, etc.).

Only time will tell how that plays out.

[madrchsod]

19. oh..... do you believe they would do that?

come now....they just lost a union endorsement because the leadership found out mark penn worked/s for the scumbag company that`s trying to bust their union.....shit they are doing it to themselves. taking the high road means you don`t get shit on your shoes

[AtomicKitten]

21. "taking the high road means you don`t get shit on your shoes"

:thumbsup:

[FrenchieCat]

25. Had Clinton lost New Hampshire....that would have been

real interesting to see that whole kingdom melt before our very eyes....as people would be running out of there, with their tennis shoes on! LOL!

But of course, that couldn't happen. :(


That's alright! cause that "audacity" is coming in handy.
I think Obama supporters are ready to kick some ass.

We'll show them what "we the people" means.

By the time we are done, Barack will be able to call Bill anytime, IF he wants some advise.
It's not like Hillary is so much smarter than Barack. Her only advantage is that she just can get advise without getting up.

[AtomicKitten]

27. It's go-time.

We ARE the people and we've got all kinds of audacity ready for this contest. Obama has started a movement that is resonating across the country, and with open eyes and open hearts we will take this country back.

[K Gardner]

5. Disregard the source, go to the link and watch this video..

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Chris_Matthews_predicts_establishment_to_defeat_0108.html

[TwilightGardener]

6. Yep--and yep.

[mckeown1128]

8. You sound shocked that the Dems in congress...

wont stand up to someone...what rock have you been under?!

[11cents]

9. Jesus, he's starting to bug the hell out of me.

I want to support him because I think he'll be the stronger candidate, but today he says that New Hampshire showed that "change will always be resisted by the status quo." Obama, hon, those were *voters.* They have the right to choose candidates who have the audacity to be not-Barack, without being characterized as the truculent, sour "status quo." Hillary didn't cast the votes personally.

This "dreamers versus the dream-stompers" thing he's got going is really a masterpiece of passive-aggressive campaigncraft. I hate it. But whatever's necessary, I guess.

[ProudDad]

32. You're SURE it was the voters?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4010728&mesg_id=4010728

[msongs]

10. isn't that wes clark as your avatar? umm, did he withdraw his hillary endorsement?

I would be surprised to see many senators endorse a candidate before a nominee is chosen. IMO

Msongs

[Thrill]

14. I'm a big Clark fan

I was disappointed in his support of Hillary but oh well.Its an Arkansas thing, I suppose with him

[JackORoses]

11. Tim Johnson of SD endorsed Obama today

[sandnsea]

16. That's good to hear

I wish people would look at this very seriously.

[ProudDad]

33. Next best thing to jumpin' joe lie-berman

but jumpin' joe is angling to be McCain's Veep...

[FrenchieCat]

12. We will beat the establishment......

that's the point! He's not afraid, and neither am I! Are you in?

[Thrill]

13. I'm in. I love both Barack and Edwards

but I think the Republicans want Hillary too bad.

[papau]

17. The finance industry GOP prefer Obama to Hillary because she might make more changes - rather

interesting.

I retired 12/31/07 - but that is the way it was before and on that day.

[ProudDad]

34. Riiiiiggggghhhhhtttt...

that's why hillary's getting more Wall Street money than anyone else... :eyes: :sarcasm:

[papau]

35. Wall Street? My world was Banks and mutual funds and insurance compaies

in that world - and esp. health ins co's - Hillary is feared and Obama considered no threat.

As to contrib's - you can note that all get money from employees of every industry.

[msongs]

20. last time I looked Mr. obama was the establishment, or is he no longer a U S senator? nt

[FrenchieCat]

22. You know you never looked!

Quit telling tales!

[sandnsea]

15. Maybe there is some leverage at work

Trying to keep them in line, somewhat, by holding edorsements over their heads. I don't know if it's true. I haven't decided whether I'm pissed all these Senators are sitting on the sidelines, or at least glad they haven't fallen in line. There are a few who I will lose enormous respect for if they endorse the Clintons.

[Joe the Revelator]

18. I think he's in good shape

He knows why people left him in NH, and he knows how to fix it. Plus, its obvious that Clinton is going to have to rely on stunts to pull this thing out, which are going to wear thin by super tuesday.

[comradebillyboy]

26. the MSM just loves Obama esp the belway pundits

and the cynical Mo Dowd types at the NYT, and Tweety, potato head Russert, Tucker and the whole NBC gang. They all hate Hillary

[HILLBILL]

28. No endorsements

Most Democratic Senators and Congressmen know that Obama cannot get elected so why waste the endorsement.

[Thrill]

30. But they think Hillary can? oh please

[Freddie Stubbs]

29. If he does, it is simply proof that he is part of the establishment