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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:41 AM
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Clinton's biggest legacy is NAFTA, Globalization and Welfare Reform
I guess he does have a legacy.

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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:43 AM
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1. And expanding the drug war
Which resulted in hundreds of thousands of non-violent drug offenders clogging up our prisons.
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Tulkas Donating Member (592 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:46 AM
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6. also, multiple definitions for the word.... is.....
I suppose that depends on what the definition of the word is, is.



WTF was that?


Just how stupid does he think we are???


Stupid enough to vote for his wife I guess.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:49 AM
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44. NAFTA, NAFTA, NAFTA!!! KICK AND REC! The Unspoken TRUTH, TRUTH, TRUTH
:nuke: Wake Up America! :nuke:
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:45 AM
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2. And popularizing the meaning of "Blow Job" for an entire generation......
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:37 AM
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33. That was really a Republican legacy
I'm sure Bill would have been glad to leave blow jobs under the table, or desk as the case may be. However, it was the Republicans who made sure that the term oral sex was on the nightly news every day. For parents who had children in junior high and high school at the time, there was no getting away from explaining to the kids what that all entailed.

Every time there is some sordid sexual activity that is better not discussed in polite company, you can bet that a Republican will be the one putting it on the front page (Larry Craig and bathroom cruising).
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:45 AM
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3. But he put up lots of recycling baskets and pretended he was in the Sixties!
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 02:45 AM by Ken Burch
And that's all peasants like us had the right to expect of the Immense Canine.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:45 AM
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4. And Obama agrees with him on all three
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 02:50 AM by jackson_dem
Clinton's biggest legacy is saving us from the fiscal disaster Reagan created and leaving us with a $246 billion surplus. He also gave us record economic growth.

What is Reagan's legacy? Debt, AIDS, crack, homeless vets...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:46 AM
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7. Which is why he wants to change all three?
Clinton implemented these policies, not Reagan.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:48 AM
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9. What changes does he want?
I have not seen him mention welfare at all in his campaign and his views on free trade are out there. He believes in globalization and free trade but believes in doing some things to help workers deal with these changes. Just like Bill Clinton.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:51 AM
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11. You haven't seen him mention anything
Because you don't pay attention to what HE says. The speeches are on his web site. You're a bright guy. Go read the damn things. Specifically his speech on poverty, it's what we need.

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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:52 AM
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13. I read his book. He is very Clintonian
Please tell us his plan to change welfare. We know he is a free trader. I am interested in his supposed welfare plan.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:54 AM
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16. Go read his speeches yourself
You can probably find new shit to distort. That ought to get you excited.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:59 AM
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40. I've got the poster you're responding to on Ignore.
From the nature of your response it would seem that his/her ability to take things out of context and distort them has not changed.

Thanks for hanging in there and combating the BS. ;)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:45 AM
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5. All issues started by Ronald Reagan
And wouldn't it be nice to have a transformational president to set an entirely new agenda for and image of this country.

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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:46 AM
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8. Reagan, Clinton, Obama all favor welfare "reform", free trade, and globalization
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AJH032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:48 AM
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10. ...according to you
don't forget balancing the budget, shrinking poverty, most environmental legislation ever passed during an 8 year period, etc.

His biggest legacy isn't just what's convenient for you to point out.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:51 AM
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12. Defend Reagan, attack Clinton. Are we at DU or Rush Limbaugh's site?
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 02:51 AM by jackson_dem
Obamites are odd. They defend Reagan with passion but attack Clinton and ignore all of his achievements. Clinton was ten times the president Reagan was.
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AJH032 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:54 AM
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15. I know
Some of the things I read here are shocking, and sad to believe that people actually believe it.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:56 AM
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17. Clinton was a centrist who did not transform politics
He implemented Reagan's policies. It's just a fact. Anybody can see it. If you like some of this crap Clinton did, you're a Reagan Democrat and you just don't know it.

I'm condemning the both of them, which ought to give you a friggin' clue.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:01 AM
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21. Obama, in his book, says Clinton's policies were progressive
I like how many progressives criticize Clinton as a centrist sellout when their guy thinks Clinton was progressive. Maybe Obama's views of what a progressive is are not the same as his supporters?

List of presidents who transformed politics:

Jefferson (1800)
Jackson (1828)
Lincoln (1860)
Arguably T. Roosevelt (1901)
FDR (1932)
Reagan (1980)

6 out of 43. Is Obama going to be one of the all-time five or six most influential presidents? I doubt it. I am a realist. I don't think any candidate will. They are very rare. W
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:08 AM
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24. SCHIP, immunization program,
separating Medicaid from a cash welfare check. They just didn't go far enough.

If you don't WANT a transformational president, I guess that's your business. I'm tired of living in the shadow of Ronald goddamn Reagan.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:15 AM
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26. I don't buy the hype. I doubt any of them will be transformational
The best we can hope for is a good president like Truman or LBJ but I don't think any of the current crop, simply due to the odds history has shown us, is going to be transformational. It took 50 years after FDR for another transformational president. It may take 50 years again (2030).
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:21 AM
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29. You got the hope all boiled out of you
I don't.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:53 AM
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14. I'm 50, I was there
The budget was balanced with excess FICA payments and since he didn't tell the truth about that, Bush was able to give all that money away to the rich.

He traded land for ski resorts and Bush is logging all the traded land as we speak.

Bill Gates and Y2K shrunk poverty.

Bill Clinton really wasn't all that. The SCHIP program was fantastic, but Kerry and Kennedy wrote that. And his immunization program, that was great too. He wasn't all bad. But we sure need a much much better Democrat than a Clinton if you want real change.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:58 AM
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18. Yeah his legacy of balancing the budget, reducing poverty and cleaning up our environment
sure are enduring. NOT!

Everything he did is gone. Sad but true.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:00 AM
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19. Because he didn't get the people behind him
He did not transform politics. That's Obama's entire point. None of that does any good if you don't get your people invested in the change.

And he didn't do it very well either, or people would have known what they were doing when they gave away the "budget surplus" and let them open more land to logging.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:03 AM
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22. Things would be much worse if Clinton wasn't president before Bush
How high would poverty be, how great would the deficit be, how degraded would the environment be if Clinton never existed and Bush followed a rethug? What he did is not gone.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:05 AM
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23. I acknowledge Clinton was a good caretaker
I never said he wasn't.

I'm just saying that isn't good enough for me.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:10 AM
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25. Have you been to the Clinton Library?
I have. The key programs Clinton implemented have been undone. It's almost pathological. You go through that library and every major achievement, Bush has undone it or severely weakened it.

He was not transformational or the American people would never have allowed it to happen.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:16 AM
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27. I know. If Clinton never existed instead of things being undone we'd be backpedaling
Thanks to Clinton moving the ball forward we did not lose as much as we otherwise would have.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:21 AM
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28. Or we wouldn't even have gotten here
With a President who had a less centrist mindset, maybe he wouldn't have been so keen to fold on some of these issues. Maybe he'd have fought them and TRANSFORMED the way Americans think to the point they never would have elected George Bush.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:32 AM
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30. The rethugs took over Congress in 1994
Clinton was always swimming against the tide. Reagan did transform our politics to make it conservative. Bill only got elected because of a recession. I think he did about the best he could under difficult circumstances.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:38 AM
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34. And we've got to do much much better
this time. That is why Hillary Clinton can absolutely NOT be the nominee. We would be having this exact same argument 8 or 12 years down the road because there absolutely would be no transformation. Edwards or Obama have a chance. If Edwards weren't running another Joe Trippi campaign, he'd probably be winning and Obama would have never had a purpose to be in the election at all. But he decided to go hard left which created all the room in the world for Obama. He's the only one with all the ingredients, and the guts, to go to all segments of society and put out some of these fire and bridge some of these gaps.
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:14 PM
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50. The elephant in the room: how did the Republicans take over Congress
if Clinton was do popular?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:01 AM
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20. No his biggest legacy was convincing
the commercial interests that democrats were just as easy to buy as republicans. you could even get a night at the lincoln bedroom. Not only that they could have alot more fun with the democrats and not have to sit next to a bunch of uptight evangelicals and drink tea.

Stop legalized bribery Vote Edwards
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girl_interrupted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:37 AM
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32. Really, then why did Edwards say Bill Clinton would have a place
in his administration? And Why are so many Obama advisors from the previous Clinton administration?
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:56 AM
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35. Any democratic president should use him
and Carter (who seems to have virtually endorsed Edwards). The point of the thread was what was his biggest legacy and I stand by my post.

Now here is something for you to consider. Bill Clinton had his episode with Monica Lewinsky after repeat after and repeating after (once again) the Independent Prosecutor Starr was in full force with hundreds of investigators looking for anything possible they could put on this guy. Clinton knew that but this brilliant guy can be so filled with hubris that he thinks he is untouchable. The result is that his second administration was paralyzed by a bogus impeachment proceeding. It is always the case that the presidents leave their epoch breaking legacy stuff to the second administration (Kennedy pointedly would not advance the Civil Rights Voting Act until his second administration).

Because of Clinton's selfish behavior done at a time when he was under intense investigation whatever big legacy pushes he thought he was going to do were not done. Its tragic. Maybe he was going to end hunger in America. Good for him but the facts are this whoever he was going to help, what ever lives he was going to change was all undone because of his hubris.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:36 AM
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31. Obama's legacy?
None. Unless voting "present" counts as a legacy.:evilgrin:
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 07:05 AM
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36. I've heard of cherrypicking, but JESUS F*CKING CHRIST!
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 07:06 AM by Perry Logan
The awesome Clinton record:

longest economic expansion in American history--a record 115 months of economic expansion
More than 22 million new jobs: more than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration
Highest home ownership in American history
Made the Federal government smaller (a feat matched only by Harry Truman; if you like small government, vote Democratic)
Lowest unemployment in 30 years: unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000; unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women was the lowest in more than 40 years
Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
Lowest crime rate in 26 years.
Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
Higher incomes at all levels: after falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family's income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation; all income brackets experienced double-digit growth; the bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent
Lowest poverty rate in 20 years: the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent in 1999--the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years
Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union: efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union
Paid off $360 billion of the national debt: under Clinton, we were on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009; what a difference a stolen election makes...
Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
Lowest government spending in three decades
Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
More families owned stock than ever before
Most New Jobs Ever Created Under a Single Administration: Republicans really chew the rug when you mention this one, so it's worth repeating constantly
Median Family Income Up $6,000 since 1993
Unemployment at Its Lowest Level in More than 30 Years
Highest Home ownership Rate on Record
7 Million Fewer Americans Living in Poverty
Largest Surplus Ever
Lower Federal Government Spending: after increasing under the previous two administrations, federal government spending as a share of the economy was cut from 22.2 percent in 1992 to 18 percent in 2000--the lowest level since 1966
The Most U.S. Exports Ever: between 1992 and 2000, U.S. exports of goods and services grew by 74 percent, or nearly $500 billion, to top $1 trillion for the first time
Lowest Inflation since the 1960s: inflation was at the lowest rate since the Kennedy Administration, averaging 2.5 percent, down from 4.6 percent during the previous administration
The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent
The poverty rate for single mothers was the lowest ever
The African American and elderly poverty rates dropped to their lowest level on record
The Hispanic poverty rate dropped to its lowest level since 1979
Lowest Poverty Rate for Single Mothers on Record: under President Clinton, the poverty rate for families with single mothers fell from 46.1 percent in 1993 to 35.7 percent in 1999, the lowest level on record
Smallest Welfare Rolls Since 1969: between January 1993 and September of 1999, the number of welfare recipients dropped by 7.5 billion (a 53 percent decline) to 6.6 million. In comparison, between 1981-1992, the number of welfare recipients increased by 2.5 million (a 22 percent increase) to 13.6 million people
Lowest Federal Income Tax Burden in 35 Years: Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family dropped to their lowest level in 35 years
Higher Incomes even after Taxes and Inflation: real after-tax incomes grew by an average of 2.6 percent per year for the lower-income half of taxpayers between 1993 and 1997, while growing by an average of 1.0 percent between 1981 and 1993
AGAINST TERRORISM

# PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON developed the nation's first anti-terrorism policy, and appointed first national coordinator of anti-terrorist efforts.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold the Al Qaeda millennium hijacking and bombing plots.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to kill the Pope.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up 12 U.S. jetliners simultaneously.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up UN Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up FBI Headquarters.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the Israeli Embassy in Washington.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Boston airport.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up Lincoln and Holland Tunnels in NY.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the George Washington Bridge.
# Bill Clinton stopped cold a planned attack to blow up the US Embassy in Albania.
# Bill Clinton tried to kill Osama bin Laden and disrupt Al Qaeda through preemptive strikes (efforts denounced by the G.O.P.).
# Bill Clinton brought perpetrators of first World Trade Center bombing and CIA killings to justice.
# Bill Clinton did not blame the Bush I administration for first World Trade Center bombing even though it occurred 38 days after Bush left office. Instead, worked hard, even obsessively -- and successfully -- to stop future terrorist attacks.
# Bill Clinton named the Hart-Rudman commission to report on nature of terrorist threats and major steps to be taken to combat terrorism.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to tighten airport security. (Remember, this is before 911) The legislation was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the airlines.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to allow for better tracking of terrorist funding. It was defeated by Republicans in the Senate because of opposition from banking interests.
# Bill Clinton sent legislation to Congress to add tagents to explosives, to allow for better tracking of explosives used by terrorists. It was defeated by the Republicans because of opposition from the NRA.
# Bill Clinton increased the military budget by an average of 14 per cent, reversing the trend under Bush I.
# Bill Clinton tripled the budget of the FBI for counterterrorism and doubled overall funding for counterterrorism.
# Bill Clinton detected and destroyed cells of Al Qaeda in over 20 countries.
# Bill Clinton created national stockpile of drugs and vaccines including 40 million doses of smallpox vaccine.
# Of Clinton's efforts says Robert Oakley, Reagan Ambassador for Counterterrorism: "Overall, I give them very high marks" and "The only major criticism I have is the obsession with Osama".
# Paul Bremer, current Civilian Administrator of Iraq disagrees slightly with Robert Oakley as he believed the Bill Clinton Administration had "correctly focused on bin Laden.
# Barton Gellman in the Washington Post put it best, "By any measure available, Bill Clinton left office having given greater priority to terrorism than any president before him" and was the "first administration to undertake a systematic anti-terrorist effort".
http://liberalslikechrist.org/about/clinton.html
ON THE ENVIRONMENT
Bill Clinton issued an Executive Order on Environmental Justice to ensure that low-income citizens and minorities do not suffer a disproportionate burden of industrial pollution. Launched pilot projects in low-income communities across the country to redevelop contaminated sites into useable space, create jobs and enhance community development.

President Bill Clinton sought permanent funding of $1.4 billion a year through the Lands Legacy initiative to expand federal efforts to save America's natural treasures and provide significant new resources to states and communities to protect local green spaces and protect ocean and coastal resources. Won $652 million for Lands Legacy in the FY 2000 budget, a 42 percent increase.

Launched effort to protect over 40 million acres of "roadless areas," which include some of America's last wild places. Dramatically improved management of our national forests with an ambitious new science-based agenda that places greater emphasis on recreation, wildlife and water quality, while reforming logging practices to ensure steady, sustainable supplies of timber and jobs. Balanced the preservation of old-growth stands with the economic needs of timber-dependent communities through the Pacific Northwest Forest Plan.

Adopted a uniform tailpipe standard to passenger cars, SUVs and other light-duty trucks, producing cars that are 77 percent cleaner -- and light-duty trucks up to 95 percent cleaner -- than those on the road today. Set new standard to reduce average sulfur levels in gasoline by up to 90 percent. Once fully implemented in 2030, these measures will prevent 43,000 premature deaths and 173,000 cases of childhood respiratory illness each year, and reduce emissions by the equivalent to removing 164 million cars from the road.

# Approved strong new clean air standards for soot and smog that could prevent up to 15,000 premature deaths a year and improve the lives of millions of Americans who suffer from respiratory illnesses. Defending the standards against legal assaults by polluters.

# Accelerating Toxic Waste Cleanups. Completed cleanup at 515 Superfund sites, more than three times as many as the previous two administrations, with cleanup of more than 90 percent of all sites either completed or in progress. Secured $1.4 billion in FY 2000 to continue progress toward cleaning up 900 Superfund sites by 2002.

# Providing Safe Drinking Water: Proposed and signed legislation to strengthen the Safe Drinking Water Act and ensure that our families have healthy clean tap water. Required America's 55,000 water utility companies to provide regular reports to their customers on the quality of their drinking water.

# Established EPA's Drinking Water State Revolving Fund (DWSRF) that provides grants to States to finance priority drinking water projects that meet Clean Water Act mandates. To date, the DWSRFs have provided $1.9 billion in loans to communities.

# Awarded nearly $200 million in Department of Agriculture (USDA) loans and grants for over 100 safe drinking water projects in rural areas of 40 states. USDA grants and loans target rural communities plagued by some of the nation's worst water quality and dependability problems.

# Expanded Safe Drinking Water Act protections to protect 40 million additional Americans in small communities from potentially dangerous microbes, including Cryptosporidium, in their drinking water.

# Ensuring Clean Water. Launched the Clean Water Action Plan to help clean up the 40 percent of America's surveyed waterways still too polluted for fishing and swimming. Secured $3.9 billion since 1998, a 16 percent increase, to help states, communities and landowners in reducing polluted runoff, enhancing natural resource stewardship, improving citizens' right to know, and protecting public health.

# Strengthening Communities' Right to Know. Strengthened the public's right to know about chemicals released into their air and water by partnering with the chemical industry and the environmental community in an effort to provide complete data on the potential health risks of the 2,800 most widely used chemicals. Nearly doubled the number of chemicals that industry must report to communities, while expanding the number of facilities that must report by 30 percent.

# Expanded the community right to know about releases of 27 persistent bio-accumulative toxins (including mercury, dioxin, and PCBs). These highly toxic chemicals are especially risky because they do not break down easily and are known to accumulate in the human body.

# Secured $83 million in FY 2000 for two major new efforts to restore salmon in the Pacific Northwest: $58 million for the Pacific Coastal Salmon Recovery Fund, which provides resources for states and tribes to protect and rebuild salmon stocks; and $25 million to implement the historic Pacific Salmon Treaty with Canada, which established two regional funds to improve fisheries management and enhance bilateral scientific cooperation between the two countries and provides funding to buy back fishing permits in Washington.
# Expanding Wildlife Refuges. Added 57,000 acres, including lands along the last free-flowing section of the Columbia River, to the Saddle Mountain National Wildlife Refuge to protect salmon habitat in Washington.

# Forging Partnerships to Protect Habitat. Completed 255 major Habitat Conservation Plans (HCPs), compared to 14 before the Administration took office, to protect more than 20 million acres of private land and over 170 threatened and endangered species. These voluntary agreements protect habitat while providing landowners the certainty they need to effectively manage their lands.

# Strengthening Protections for Wildlife. Signed legislation that strengthens protections for wildlife by mandating that the most important use of our nation's wildlife refuges is giving refuge to migratory birds and other animals reliant on this rich system of natural habitat.

Protecting our Oceans and Coasts

# Creating Comprehensive Oceans Policy. Directed the development of key recommendations for strengthening federal oceans policy for the 21st century and appointed a high-level task force to oversee the implementation of those recommendations. Convened a National Ocean Conference in June 1998 that brought together government experts, business executives, scientists, environmentalists, elected officials and the public to examine opportunities and challenges in restoring and protecting our ocean resources.

# Strengthening Our National Marine Sanctuaries. Secured a funding increase of over 100% to better support national marine sanctuaries -- homes to coral reefs, kelp forests, humpback whales, and loggerhead turtles. Supporting the five-year Sustainable Seas Expeditions to explore, study and document ways to better protect underwater resources.

# Preserving Coral Reefs. Issued an Executive Order to expand protection of coral reefs and their ecosystems to address issues of coral reef management, expansion of marine protected areas and increased protections for coral reef species.

# Protecting Marine Mammals. Led negotiations resulting in a multilateral agreement to protect dolphins in the eastern tropical Pacific Ocean. Issued new standards to protect the endangered northern right whale from injuries from ships by instituting a first-ever ship reporting requirement in two areas of right whale critical habitat. Fought for creation of the Southern Ocean Whale Sanctuary, an area of more than 12 million square miles off the coast of Antarctica.

# Banning Ocean Dumping of Toxic Waste. Led the world in calling for a global ban on ocean dumping of low-level radioactive waste. The U.S. was the first nuclear power to advocate the ban.

Introduced "Better America Bonds" to generate $10.75 billion in bond authority over five years to preserve open space, improve water quality and clean up abandoned and contaminated properties known as brownfields. Local communities can work together in partnerships with land trust groups, environmentalists, business leaders and others to develop innovative solutions to their community's development challenges.

# Provided leadership critical to successful negotiation of the Kyoto Protocol, which sets strong, realistic targets for reducing greenhouse gas emissions and establishes flexible, market-based mechanisms to achieve them as cost-effectively as possible.

# Investing in Clean Energy Research. Won more than $1 billion in FY 1999 and in FY 2000 for the Climate Change Technology Initiative, a program of clean energy research and development that will save energy and consumers money. Extended the tax credits for wind and biomass energy production through 2001, reducing emissions and reliance on imported oil.

# Growing Clean Energy Technologies. Issued an Executive Order to coordinate federal efforts to spur the development and use of bio-based technologies, which can convert crops, trees and other "biomass" into a vast array of fuels and materials. Set a goal of tripling our use of bioenergy and bioproducts by 2010 to reduce annual greenhouse gas emissions by up to 100 million tons a year -- the equivalent of taking 70 million cars off the road.

# Improving Scientific Understanding. Increased funding for the United States Global Change Research Program to more than $1.7 billion in FY 2000 to provide a sound scientific understanding of both the human and natural forces that influence the Earth's climate system. This record research budget continues strong support for the "Carbon Cycle Initiative" begun last year to improve our understanding of the role of farms, forests, and other natural or managed lands in capturing carbon.

# Energy Efficiency Standards for Appliances. Issued new energy efficiency standards for refrigerators, refrigerator-freezers, freezers and room air conditioners that will save consumers money and reduce emissions of greenhouse gases and dependence on foreign oil. The new standards will cut the average appliance's energy usage by 30 percent and save more than seven quadrillion BTUs of energy over the next 30 years, more than seven times the annual energy consumption of the entire state of Arkansas.

# Promoting federal Energy Efficiency. Issued an Executive Order directing federal agencies to reduce energy use in buildings 35 percent by 2010, reducing annual greenhouse gas emissions by the equivalent of taking 1.7 million cars off the road and saving taxpayers over $750 million a year. Forged new partnerships with industry to develop and promote energy-saving cars, homes and consumer products with the potential to save Americans hundreds of millions of dollars in energy bills and significantly curb greenhouse gas pollution.
http://www.environmentalcaucus.org/gore.html

PS: What about corruption?

Forget about it. As measured by the total number of convictions and forced resignations, Clinton's was the cleanest administration since Teddy Roosevelt.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:10 AM
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37. Ah, this is the list I was thinking of...tons of transitory and impermanent
statistics.

I'm looking at your list and I gotta laugh. Like this one:

Secured $83 million in FY 2000 for two major new efforts to restore salmon in the Pacific Northwest: $58 million for the Pacific Coastal Salmon Recovery Fund, which provides resources for states and tribes to protect and rebuild salmon stocks; and $25 million to implement the historic Pacific Salmon Treaty with Canada, which established two regional funds to improve fisheries management and enhance bilateral scientific cooperation between the two countries and provides funding to buy back fishing permits in Washington.


This is what happened to Clinton's legacy under Bush:

WASHINGTON (AP) — West Coast Democrats called for a hearing Wednesday into the role federal policy may have played in the 2002 die-off of about 70,000 salmon near the California-Oregon border.

An article in The Washington Post Wednesday said Vice President Cheney played a crucial role in developing a 10-year water plan for the Klamath River that courts later called arbitrary and in violation of the Endangered Species Act. Democrats charged that Cheney's action resulted in the largest adult salmon kill in the history of the West.

"The ramifications of that salmon kill are still being felt today as returns to the Klamath River are so low that commercial, sport and tribal fishing seasons have been curtailed for the past three years," Democrats said in a letter calling for the hearing.

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And you are calling the Kyoto protocol one of Clinton's legacys? It isn't even implemented!

All those statistics you cited are old and changed by now.

Which goes back to my point...the lasting Clinton legacies are NAFTA, Globalization, and Welfare Reform.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:53 AM
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46. touche'
enough said...Obama protecting Reagan loving FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLS! uuuuurururuururu
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:11 AM
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38. Obama agrees with welfare reform and globalization
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:32 AM
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39. Did I say any of these things were bad?
No. I just said those were his existing legacies.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:04 AM
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41. I made and saved more money under the Clinton administration
I made, saved, and donated more money under the Clinton administration more than any other time in my life. That's the most relevant legacy I associate with Clinton...

(Ohh... this is your little way of taking a swipe at Clinton, sorry....)
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:10 AM
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42. Can't Argue With That. n/t
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:26 AM
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43. Yeah, eight stinkin' years of peace and prosperity.
Thank God the long national nightmare is over.
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:51 AM
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45. Hillary??
............................?
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:08 PM
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47. don't forget Media Consolidation as part of that legacy too!
Rupert Murdoch is making sure that Hillary understands he's grateful for that Telecomm Act passing back in the 90's that's made him what he is today!

... and that "reform" was also a start of the downward path of our civil liberties being robbed from us when it included the "Communications Decency Act"! COULD HAVE AND SHOULD HAVE been vetoed!
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:09 PM
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48. Well that's progressive, right?
:eyes:
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:13 PM
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49. No, his biggest legacy is short circuiting Bush 1 and kicking Doles ass in 96.
These were tough times for Democrats, as we all know, Bill figured out how to win when a lot of other Democrats were losing.
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