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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:34 AM
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PLEASE stop posting Taylor Marsh propaganda
If you want to post pro Hillary info, in support of her ...Hey that is great. But all of you who are posting nonsense garbage that is filtered and misrepresented like the ReTHUGlicans do from the Taylor Marsh DLC website, are misrepresenting candidates.

And to all you so called progressives on DU...Taylor Marsh was running a smear campaign against Howard Dean when he was running for the head of the DNC, because the DLC didn't want him in that position. SO I would be very suspect about anything she says or posts. As Babylonsister pointed out in the other thread, ALL the information about the Culinary Unions tactics weren't reported.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:36 AM
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1. Propaganda is often posted here, why limit it to Taylor Marsh. What about all the Drudge posts?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:39 AM
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2. And politico, and "memos" copied from Hitchens over a decade ago, etc.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:50 AM
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6. yes, and yes
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:40 AM
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3. you forget


You are not allowed to speak ill of He who shall not be named. Its a sin don't you know.

Talk about propaganda, seems like Obama's supporters are taking it to a whole new level.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:42 AM
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4. NOT WHAT I SAID
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 08:43 AM by gaiilonfong
You want to blast Obama with the facts,....good on you, but Taylor Marsh is an IDIOT and is just posting slanted propaganda, similar to you post misconstruing my words...I said post TRUTH not propaganda!
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:46 AM
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5. Nice signature line, for someone on a Freeper site. Wow.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:54 AM
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8. We are being regularly "visited" as you know...
eyes: Always announced by a major lack of subtlety and any understanding of/appreciation of irony, and hypocrisy...
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:54 AM
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9. No .........nice try at spinning
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 08:56 AM by gaiilonfong
When Bill Clinton STFU and stops lying about other candidates, I will change my sig line, until then it stays.
You Hillary supporters are always calling people freepers when those of us who aren't on the Clinton or no one meltdown express, have something to say contrary to Miss DlC repub-lite....So get over it, I am a progressive, that doesn't like Bill, and I have every right to express it. I am not using ReTHUGlican Rovian spin like you newly annointed Queen Hillary, my sig line is a verbatim quote from Billy !
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:27 AM
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16. Dearie, one need not be supporting HRC to pin you on your
pro-RW, pro KKK ROve, Pro Drudge, anti-democratic posts. Ahh, guys and their resistance to asking directions.... 'Guess you took an unintended LEFT turn....:eyes:
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:34 AM
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18. LOL
Nice try!
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:09 AM
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34. No one calls him Billy.
It's Willie, as in Slick Willie, as in One Eyed Willie. And for the record, not everyone who has a problem with Obama's support of Republicans and Republican policies is a HRC supporter. As far as the FReeper moniker, if the shoe fits...Who are you to come in here and tell DUers what DUers should and should not think?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:57 AM
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36. Good post, Jama
I don't care if someone supports HRC or not -- I really don't. But, too many people are using her as a cover for certain comments and hits against Dems.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:04 AM
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39. That's so true, LostinVA.
Obama is playing to Reagan Democrats, regardless of what ANY of the other candidates are doing. It's just wrong of him to bash "liberal government" when we've never truly had a liberal government to know if it would have "excesses" or not.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:13 PM
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45. I wish we have had a truly liberal government!
Had any snow yet?
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:30 PM
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46. Well, it looked like snow and sleet when it was falling.
Now, it just looks like Hardee's restaurant (loosely named) ice on my deck and in my yard. Most of it has melted except that on the north side. I wish we could have come real fluffy nice snow to play in.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:56 AM
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35. OMG -- I just saw that
And the poster is talking about Taylor Marsh garbage... just has a HUGE RW catchphrase in his sig line???

I told TPTB.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:05 AM
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10. If you only want the truth then where is the rant
on postings from Policito and Drudge? Seems you only want that going one way.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:09 AM
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12. I have already said their should NOT be Drudge posts on here
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 09:34 AM by gaiilonfong
Also Karl Rove spin from his op-eds are a NO-NO
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:24 AM
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15. So you WANT KKK Rove and Drudge posts--just not Marsh
posts, since she is a democrat. Okee dokie.... Subtlety, gaillonfong, don't they teach you guys anything?
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:33 AM
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17. sorry
I fixed it I meant to say I DON'T want Drudge posts her...my bad
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:35 AM
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20. Is your name Skinner?
If not, then STFU.
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:34 AM
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19. That would make you a hypocrite
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 09:35 AM by leftynyc
and an ill-mannered hypocite at that.


On edit - posted before you realized your mistake - obviously
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:38 AM
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24. Nice try
NO SALE...I made a mistake, but life goes on doesn't it.
Really funny how you all jump on the bandwagen!
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:58 AM
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37. Who is "you all"?
The poster isn't an HRC supporter.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:21 AM
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42. You are a Freeper because you misquote people on purpose...
in order to be able to better insult them.

Progressive people are not hate-filled trodgolytes who can never let go of a bone. Conservatives are.

You, for example, have been working the Monica bone since 1998 -- a decade now -- while issues of tremendously greater importance have risen. That can be attributed to nothing but rabid Clinton-hatred.

Were you really a progressive, you would either have forgiven Bill by now, (after all, he did MUCH less wrong than Bush has, criminally, ethically, morally), or you would have the decency not to derisively bring up something that happened ten years ago and never was any of our business in the first place.

But the thing that really CONVICTS you of being a wingnut is that you have deliberately altered Clinton's words in order to make them seem more worthy of approbabtion. That's bearing false witness. That's character assassination, and that's something only conservative Republicans do.

Ergo, I name thee wingnut. I don't know for sure whether you're a Freeper or not, but you're certainly too dishonest and mean-spirited to be a progressive.

And, by the way, Ronald Reagan was a suckass president.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:27 AM
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43. NO SALE n/t
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:06 AM
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33. Then why won't on of you
:tinfoilhat:bama minions post what he actually said? Oh, wait, you'd have to post a good portion of his book too, wouldn't you? You know...where he waxes nostalgic about Reagan and talked about "liberal excesses." This is a liberal site, for the record, you know.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 10:04 AM
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32. I'm sure we'll see a Jim Jones style video on the news
after the election if "He who shall not be named" doesn't win. :eyes:
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 08:52 AM
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7. I think you envoke Taylor Marsh every day
I have never even seen anything posted by him/her. I have no idea who Taylor Marsh is.

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NWHarkness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:12 AM
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13. She's a Democrat
And therefore, an open target for the Obama fans. If she were a republican, they'd be telling us how we need to reach out to her.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:07 AM
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11. ...
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:15 AM
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14. Boo hoo
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 09:16 AM by seasonedblue
Taylor Marsh supports Hillary Clinton, but she's also been defending John Edwards and Dennis Kucininch. Get over it, she just doesn't like some of Obama's tactics, and she writes about them. She's been more correct than a lot crap coming out of other blogs and other radio programs.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:35 AM
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21. She's dishonest.
No one cares who she supports. Truth is not her specialty.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:36 AM
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22. Yes, we all know that Drudge is more respected by some around here.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:40 AM
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25. And you're one of those people?
:shrug:

She's about on that level.
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:42 AM
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27. Actually Marsh is worse
She pretends to be a Democrat while she is just a DLC operative and anti-progressive, Drudge admits he is a ReTHUGlican Neo Con
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:36 AM
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23. WRONG
She is ANTI-PROGRESSIVE...she slimed Howard Dean...She is a DLC-bot.
NO SALE
She only talks about edwards because she wanted him to take-out Obama and LOSE to her Queen Hillary!
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:41 AM
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26. I think it's becoming clear who's the DLC-bot
in this primary. The "Democrat's disease" ring any bells?
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gaiilonfong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:43 AM
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28. LMAO
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 09:43 AM by gaiilonfong
We shall see, won't we!
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:47 AM
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30. I already know
that when someone talks about the excesses of the 60's and 70's, has kind words for Ronald Reagan, and has his spokesman talk about the issues that prevent Democrats from getting elected, and calls that the "Democrat's disease, they're pulling their talking points straight out of the DLC handbook, it's almost verbatim DLC.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:46 AM
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29. Looking at your avatar
I have gives me a clue.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:03 AM
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38. she looks credible to me
http://www.taylormarsh.com/biography.php

Not saying her opinion is going to be accepted by all of course.
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 09:47 AM
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31. your signature is testament that you should be taken seriously.nt
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:04 AM
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40. ONLY post pro-Obama propaganda...nt
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:09 AM
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41. Dunno who Marsh is, for me it was the video that did it, not anyone's spin
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 11:11 AM by robbedvoter
I agree with you that dubious sources should be avoided - such as Rove, Paglia, drudge etc. Is this Marsh a right winger or something? Not familiar.
Anyway, when I saw the link to that, I didn't even click - just asked if those were his words or spin. I was told - it was Obama on a video - his own words - then I checked.
later on, someone smugly asked is anyone can provide any quotes that Obama actually likes Reagan, Someone who read the book, posted this
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4087189&mesg_id=4087491
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 11:31 AM
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44. Taylor Marsh is a liberal Democrat
who hasn't bought into the Obama 'movement.'
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:34 PM
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:30 PM
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51. calling her a WHORE cause she supports Clinton is ugly shameful.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:35 PM
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48. Liberal Democrat working for the DLC. She made a wrong turn somewhere
Liberal Democrat at the DLC :rofl:
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:40 PM
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49. PLEASE ONLY POST PRO-OBAMA PROPAGANDA!!1!!!1!!!
:rofl:
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SoxFan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:12 PM
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50. DLC/DNC
I have no use for the shrill bag of wind that is Taylor Marsh, but I have to take issue with the characterization of the DLC role in the 2005 DNC chair's race.

The DLC leadership did not get involved in that contest. Several of the candidates for chair had ties to the DLC, including Tim Roemer, who is a frequent participant in DLC national security panel discussions, and Simon Rosenberg, who founded the New Democrat Network and had the support of many under-40 elected New Democrats. The DLC had a scrap with Dean in the presidential contest, but that did not carry over to the chairmanship race.

Full disclosure: I was part of a group of Democratic state officials who signed a letter supporting Simon Rosenberg. I believe Dean has done a solid job as DNC chair. My real fear was that Donny Fowler, who had the backing of some distasteful characters in my state's Democratic party, would be the winner.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 03:32 PM
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52. tsk tsk. censoring is not cool.
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