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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:52 AM Original message |
"So Democratic audiences are often surprised when I tell them I don't consider George Bush... |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
1. Obama is a master politician. He can disagree without demonizing. That's |
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Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
2. I think in George's mind, that is likely true. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. "I won against peace and prosperity" he said in 2000 privately (in germany) |
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lurky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
55. I hadn't heard that. |
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smiley_glad_hands (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
3. Yeah, more like whats best for them and people like them. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
4. Nancy Pelosi got fried on DU for saying something similar. nt |
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LandOLincoln (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. No kidding? |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
13. I do recall that, yes I do. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. Yeah... |
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calico1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. George Bush, Reagan okay, |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. I guess it's "strategy" for some? |
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tandot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #4 |
29. I remember that. She received a "virtual stoning" from some DUers for saying that. |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
5. I don't like it when Obama characterizes Democratic audiences, even indirectly, as haters. |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
6. I wonder. |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
7. Can Obama possibly mean that? He doesn't think Bush is |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Just becasue he said it does not mean he means it. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. But still... why? Who could he possibly be pandering to with that one? |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:35 AM Response to Reply #18 |
35. And who does that remind me of? |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #18 |
36. If he means it, he's delusional. If he doesn't mean it, he's |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #7 |
21. I don't consider Bush a bad man either. Incompetent, narcissistic, bullying, antiintellectual, |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #21 |
31. smirk is a thief and murderer --- did you forget? |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:40 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Hell, yeah. He's a war criminal. He sanctions torture. His |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #37 |
42. We can't actually prove all of that. I think he is a bad president, yes, and he may have in fact |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I don't think you can knowingly start an unproved war based on |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I am still operating under the premise that Bush is actually not that smart. Shrewd, yes. But not |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-18-08 12:29 AM Response to Reply #21 |
63. "thinks he is doing the right thing" means he isn't bad? |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
8. Denial Is Not Just a GOP Trait |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
9. he even called him "efficient" in the last debate - just remembered |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
11. Is Obama appealing to the 30 something percent of people |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. More like 3% - if NH exit poll is an indication. GOP candidates hide from him! |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
12. "I assume |
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girl_interrupted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Any president who can sit on his ass and watch his own countrymen |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #23 |
33. Going to bed at 10 , evening of 9.11 - also shows lotsa care and concern right there |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
17. I'm beginning to lose respect for Obama |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
19. What in God's name is he trying to do here? |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
20. what an asinine thing to say . . . n/t |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
22. To paraphrase his idol Ronnie |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
24. Gotta get the "idiot" vote. |
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donsu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
28. Obama must eat happy pills |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
30. Obama: Bush is "likeable, shrewd and disciplined" |
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gulliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #30 |
62. Anyone who doesn't consider Bush, unlikable, half-witted, and... |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
32. This is an ironic tactic. By saying this he's making 2 statements directed at 2 audiences. |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. Obama is being diplomatic |
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FreepFryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. I agree - and that's quite a 'red flag'. The Nazis tolerated dissent, but not character attacks. |
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tandot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
34. Why does he feel he needs to say something positive about that incompetent idiot? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:17 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. pander. nt. |
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IronLionZion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
38. So where's the context? Why not post the whole speech? nt |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Its his book, which I'm sure most Obama supporters own. Not a lot of them on this thread. |
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Bodhi BloodWave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #39 |
53. Which book and when was it written? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. The Audacity of Hope. I highly recommend it. nt. |
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arthritisR_US (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
40. I would like to know what his definition of a good man is then! n/t |
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Rageneau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
41. I consider Bush to be a bad man and Obama to be a very naive one. |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 12:03 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I agree that we need a fighter |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
47. kick for the Obamatons. nt. |
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leftynyc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Where are they all anyhow? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Don't know...marginalizing gays in another thread maybe? nt. |
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BarackBucks (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
52. Barack just doesn't want to get into it |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
54. That sounds like a Clinton quote. nt |
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tishaLA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
57. But for some DUers, You're either with him or you're against him |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
58. kick in memory of Ronald Reagan...brother rat. nt. |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
59. kick for good intentions Bush. nt. |
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Avalux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
60. So? Hillary thinks Bush is charming and charismatic. |
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kelligesq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-17-08 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
61. Kick for the GOP & Republican Party |
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