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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:03 PM
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A Hillary quote ...one that actually matters
Edited on Thu Jan-17-08 12:03 PM by jefferson_dem
Since we've become quote-happy on this board, here's one that actually matters, in my view.

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"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members … It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."

- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

http://clinton.senate.gov/speeches/iraq_101002.html
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:04 PM
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1. Hold on! "If left unchecked"?? I thought she wasn't really giving
* permission to go to war with her vote, yet she's warmongering here? :wtf:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:11 PM
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3. UN weapons inspectors were to destroy those WMD - that is the "check" she wanted
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keith the dem Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:21 PM
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4. That vote did get the inspectors back into Iraq....
The threat was neutralized and "checked" at that point.

When you issue a gun to a cop, it does not give him the right to kill without cause. The IWR vote was to give the cop the gun. What that cop did was to shoot the suspect after his hands were up and his back was turned.

The argument should not be if the vote was the right thing, but should Hillary have known that the cop was a crooked cold-blooded killer.

The timing of that vote was right before an election when the idea of a vigilante cop was popular.

I am not a hillary supporter, but the constant tearing down of our candidates bugs me. I will not vote for Hillary in the primary, but support her 100% if she is nominated.


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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:38 PM
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6. Once there were UN Inspectors, then there weren't, then...
...there were again (and then there weren't). I think about 85% of the U.S. political establishment saw a relationship between UN sanctions, and verification that they were being followed, and keeping a "check" on Hussein's Iraq.

That was the whole point of the agreements that ended the Gulf War with Hussein still in power. When he kicked U.N. inspectors out of Iraq was the point in time at which concerns were raised about Irq being left unchecked. "Checking" Iraq meant getting inspectors back in to check for compliance with U.N. resloltions that "kept Iraq in check"..

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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 12:04 PM
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2. That is what the intelligence reports showed.
the cooked intelligence reports. I didn't believe it then, but I'm done faulting the Dems who were duped.
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cloudythescribbler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:31 PM
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5. The whole point is that HRC, like the MSM ASSUMED that accusations of Iraq were true ...
when in fact it was all BS. A little skepticism would have been nice.

Frankly, I am NOT aware that HRC, like Edwards and Kerry and some others, tried to insist on certain conditions be applied -- I know in one case that HRC voted AGAINST one set of conditions. This highlights the real travesty of Bill the Shill Clinton claiming to have always opposed the war. With war 'opponents' like that, who needs supporters.

Yes, I know that, albeit with less merit, one can say the same of ALL the remaining Dems except Kucinich. That's why is was SO unconscionable to exclude Kucinich from the debate.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-17-08 02:41 PM
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7. Hillary voted for the Byrd amendment
That put a sunset clause on the IWR. Had that passed at least no one now could claim the IWR is still open ended in regards to the middle east giving Bush cover to act again. Edwards voted against all constraining amendments to the IWR unless I am mistaken.
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