First, Pastor Donnie McClurkin. Now, Ronald Reagan

[FredScuttle]

Which right-wing clown will Obama embrace next?



Tricky Dick?




Tailgunner Joe?




Anita Bryant?

[redqueen]

1. Did he just embrace all of them from 93 to present?

By calling them "The party of ideas"?

[FredScuttle]

22. Gotta love it when our "progressive" candidates embrace the dark side

What's next? Newt Gingrich was a visionary?

[terrya]

2. This is a bit much

Sorry...I don't see ANY Democrat embracing Joseph McCarthy. As far as I know, the only person who reveres McCarthy today is Ann Coulter.

[FredScuttle]

3. That's what I thought

before I logged on and read about a so-called "progressive" candidate giving even the hint of praise to the Reagan years...and "progressives" on this board supporting that statement.

[Glorfindel]

4. Maybe this guy?

[FredScuttle]

8. How could I forget!

The King of Modern-Day GOP Clowns!

Obama probably wants to extend the olive branch to Dr. Keyes and talk to him about the "ex-gay" movement. Maybe offer his friend Donnie McClurkin's services to help pray the gay out of Keyes' daughter.

[jackson_dem]

42. That would be a good display of "post-partisanship"

[Renew Deal]

5. Don't you feel guilty for using the GLBT community as a political tool?

That's disgusting.

[FredScuttle]

6. Don't you feel ashamed that a so-called "progressive" spoke warmly of the Reagan regime

and you're defending that vomit-inducing statement?

[Renew Deal]

7. Except for the fact that he didn't

:shrug:

[FredScuttle]

9. Uh, yeah he did

and all the parsing and contorting in the world can't hide the fact that Saint Obama just stepped on the third rail of the Democratic Party.

[Egnever]

10. blah blah blah blah blah

Your bulshit is transparent

[Renew Deal]

16. This person has been using gays as pawns for weeks.

And frankly, it's disgusting.

[FredScuttle]

18. What's disgusting is Obama embracing an "ex-gay" clown to headline his event

and his refusal (going on 80 days and counting) to apologize for it.

[Renew Deal]

19. What makes you any different?

[FredScuttle]

23. What makes me different from Obama? That's simple

I don't hire "ex-gay" clowns to MC my events and hand them a microphone and a stage to spew homophobic filth to a receptive crowd of bigots and morons whom I'm trying to impress. I don't pander to bigots and I certainly don't try to curry favor with them.

That's just one difference.

[Renew Deal]

27. You're using gays day after day for political reasons.

Hypocrite

[FredScuttle]

29. No, I'm trying to hold Obama and his supporters accountable

for embracing bigotry for the sake of a few primary votes.

Asshole.

[Renew Deal]

31. Sure

Whatever makes you feel better.

[FredScuttle]

32. Standing up against bigotry makes me feel just peachy

n/t

[DURHAM D]

35. What's with you?

You seem willing to screw yourself into any position to support your leader.

I call you folks The Pretzel Movement.

[FredScuttle]

37. Each day is a fresh new hell on this board

We've gone from defending "ex-gay" bigots to lavishing praise on a criminal who occupied the White House. Sheesh.

[ClericJohnPreston]

43. Cognitive Dissonance

Aint it a bitch cultist?

[RaleighNCDUer]

13. Link please.

I want to see where he praised Reagan's policies. Not his political skill and acumen, but the ideas that make Reaganism.

[FredScuttle]

20. Silly, silly strawman

I didn't say that Obama praised Reagan's policies. He praised REAGAN, THE MAN - the all-powerful superhero Daddy figure who saved us from those awful hippies and freaks and beat the Commies singlehandedly. :sarcasm:

Here's the money quote:

"I don't want to present myself as some sort of singular figure. I think part of what is different is the times. I do think that, for example, the 1980 election was different. I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that Richard Nixon did not and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path because the country was ready for it. They felt like with all the excesses of the 60s and the 70s and government had grown and grown but there wasn't much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating. I think he tapped into what people were already feeling. Which is we want clarity, we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/16/obama-compares-himself-to_n_81835.html

[FiveGoodMen]

24. "He tapped into what people were already feeling"

Yes, he did.

He saw a parade of fear, denial, nationalism, militarism and bigotry ... and he got in front of it.

[FredScuttle]

26. Amen

Reagan saw the worst of our society and said "how can I get that to vote for me?"

[elixir]

14. Excellent analogy, let's see if he survives.

[Renew Deal]

15. Post the quote

Go ahead, it should be easy.

[FredScuttle]

25. "I think he (Reagan) tapped into what people were already feeling."

"Which is we want clarity, we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism and entrepreneurship that had been missing."

You're right....that was easy.

[Renew Deal]

28. You forgot: "He put us on a fundamentally different path because the country was ready for it."

Oops

[FredScuttle]

30. Oh yeah, what a stinging indictment of the Reagan Regime

:eyes:

[lapfog_1]

33. Bullshit... and you all know it.

The Clintonistas, knowing that their ass was going to handed to them regarding the blatant attempt to suppress union voters in Nevada, must have issued this little "gotcha" gem to their flying monkey hordes.
They are hoping that it bounces around the blogoshere echo chamber enough to penetrate the MSM.

Obama said that Reagan was effective... Obama went on to say that he disagreed with many of Reagan's policies.

But that's not good enough for you. That's not "pure" enough.

Reagan is dead.

I'm tired to death of his successors... Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton*.

I don't know about you folks, but I'd rather support the candidate that says a few nice words about Ronald Reagan then the candidate who's tactics are straight from Karl Rove.

[FredScuttle]

36. You must have mistaken me for a Hillary supporter and someone who gives a shit what you think

I'm. Not. A. Hillbot.

What concerns me is that this is a pattern with Obama....talking piety and virtue out of one side of his mouth while pandering to bigotry and evil on the other. He did it with Pastor McClurkin and he's doing it now with the vaunted Reagan legacy. There's a reason why it's only the most batshit insane loony GOP toadies that want to rename everything under the sun for that addled criminal.

Why in the fuck is the name "Ronald Reagan" crossing Obama's lips in the first place?

[lapfog_1]

38. I don't care if you are a Clinton supporter or not.

If you look at the public speaking record of every politician, you'll find things that disgust you.

And you'll find them hanging around people that disgust you as well... For example: Hillary routinely meets with members of "The Fellowship" for prayer breakfasts and such. Look up "The Fellowship" and tell me that McClurkin is much much worse than they are. You can't because they are not. Yeah, I don't like Obama's allowing McClurkin to host a meeting for him... I doubt you'll find anyone on DU that thinks this was a smart move. But I'm not going to say "oh well, that's it, he doesn't get MY support because of this stupid thing", because who would I then support? Each and every other candidate has their own flaws. Edwards, for example, not only voted FOR the IWR, he co-sponsored it! Hillary voted for it and for the Kyl-Leiberman amendment, and she agreed to a "no opposition" deal for Bush's federal bench nominees. We could go on and on.

Name one politician that isn't guilty of this... let's limit it to House, Senate, Presidents, and Vice Presidents. And maybe State Governors.

You can't find one. Period.

BTW, I don't give a shit what YOU think either.

[FredScuttle]

40. The point is not what EVERY OTHER POLITICIAN is doing...

it's what Saint Obama, Savior of Modern Politics, is doing.

Why are so willing to give Saint Obama a pass for every one of his craven, POLITICIAL actions?

[HeraldSquare212]

11. The Hillary gig no one will talk about

from the Village Voice:


http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0509,lombardi1,61604,6...



-snip-

It came in a January 19 speech in Boston that made headlines there, with Clinton appearing in a Globe photograph alongside the host, Reverend Eugene Rivers III, one of the state's most outspoken opponents of same-sex marriage.

Clinton had traveled there to attend a benefit for Rivers's youth-outreach program, known as the National Ten Point Leadership Foundation, which promotes faith-based solutions to gang violence and urban crime.

-snip-

The affair's host was Reverend Eugene Rivers III, the spiritual leader of the Pentecostal Azusa Christian Community and a prominent black minister willing to do business with the Bush White House. On January 25, he was among a coterie of clergy who met with President Bush in Washington. His Ten Point foundation has benefited from federal funding thanks to the administration's faith-based program. And Rivers has appeared in documents issued by the White House Office of Faith-Based Initiatives pushing one of its most controversial elements—that faith-based agencies be allowed to ignore state and local anti-discrimination laws but still receive federal money.

from the Village Voice:

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0509,lombardi1,61604,6.html/full


-snip-

It came in a January 19 speech in Boston that made headlines there, with Clinton appearing in a Globe photograph alongside the host, Reverend Eugene Rivers III, one of the state's most outspoken opponents of same-sex marriage.

Clinton had traveled there to attend a benefit for Rivers's youth-outreach program, known as the National Ten Point Leadership Foundation, which promotes faith-based solutions to gang violence and urban crime.

-snip-

And then there's his outspoken stance against same-sex marriage. Last year, in the battle for civil-marriage rights for gay couples in Massachusetts, Rivers aligned himself with the most extreme opponents. He showed up at forums hosted by the anti-gay Family Research Council. He lent his celebrity to a radio ad paid for by Your Catholic Voice that declared: "Same-sex unions are really about 'special rights' for a special interest group."

Just a week before he shared the spotlight with Senator Clinton in Boston, he sounded a similar theme at Calvin College, in Grand Rapids, Michigan, arguing in a January 11 address that the words "civil rights" have been co-opted by those who support full equality for gay couples. Then Rivers revealed his true conservative colors:

"Frequently, same-sex couples wanting to marry are white lesbians who seek the accoutrements of family life and the proverbial white picket fence," he told the crowd. "From their positions of socioeconomic privilege, they insist that their desires must be viewed as rights instead of preferences."


-snip-

[FredScuttle]

17. Who's talking about Hillary?

Not me. I'm not supporting her...not in the slightest.

Why is Obama waxing nostalgic about Reagan?

[lapfog_1]

34. Would it surprise you that Hillary

also regularly attends prayer breakfasts and meetings with members of "The Fellowship".

She does.

Do a little reading on the membership of "The Fellowship" and their influence in the corridors of Washington.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

12. Of the four people pictured in this thread so far, half of them have gay children

Alan Keyes and Anita Bryant.

(And Ronald Reagan Jr. is at least a honorary gay man. Sexual behavior aside, dude's pretty sophisticated.)

Add Cheney to the mix, and we have to ask ourselves...

Isn't it better for these people if they admit it's not a choice?

Because if it IS a choice, it's a choice caused by having RW assholes for parents.

[FredScuttle]

21. That is interesting

thanks for pointing that out

[AX10]

39. Funny!

:rofl:

He will say something nice about them all. Yet we have to hear one nice thing from Obama about progressives/liberals.

[FredScuttle]

41. Obama says "progressives/liberals/LGBT folk - get to the back of the bus!

I got an election to win!

OBAMA '08: PANDERING FOR VOTES...BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY