Unite-HERE ad: "Hillary Clinton does not respect our people." - "Hillary Clinton is shameless."

[jefferson_dem]

Unite-HERE ad: "Hillary Clinton does not respect our people."

The radio ad aired by one of Obama's labor allies re-injects ethnicity into the contest in sharp terms.

"Hillary Clinton does not respect our people," the ad says, in Spanish (original and Clinton campaign translation after the jump), referring to the lawsuit that failed today to shut down special caucus sites on Las Vegas's strip. "Hillary Clinton is shameless."

"Senator Obama is defending our right to vote. Senator Obama wants our votes. He respects our votes, our community, and our people. Senator Obama’s campaign slogan is 'Si Se Puede'. Vote for a president who respects us, and who respects our right to vote," the ad says, according to a transcript provided by the Clinton campaign and confirmed in part by a union official.

On a conference call arranged by the Clinton campaign, two of her supporters denounced the spot and demanded that Obama distance himself from it. They also said the Clinton campaign had no involvement in the lawsuit, which was filed by Clinton supporters and defended by Bill Clinton.

"It’s pathetic and it's sad and it's unfortunate that they have to stoop so low," said Dolores Huerte, a longtime Hispanic labor leader who supports Clinton. She said she had never met Obama in her years of working on Hispanic causes, and suggested the ad was prompted by his lack of Hispanic support.

"I have yet to find even one worker – a Latino worker – who is supporting Barack Obama," she said.

The political director for Unite-HERE, Tom Snyder, confirmed a portion of the transcript, and defended the decision to run it.

"We're doing this because forces allied with her campaign are trying to keep our members out of voting through this lawsuit, which neither Senator Clinton nor former President Clinton have denounced," he said.

A spokesman for Obama, Bill Burton, did not condemn the ad or the spending specifically, but instead attacked Clinton.

"Senator Obama believes, and has said clearly, that campaigns should fund themselves and discourages supporters from spending outside the campaign," he said, and echoed the charges in the ad. "Coming from a campaign that is repeatedly launching absolutely false attacks against Senator Obama, it takes some chutzpah. The facts is their camp clearly would like to have worker's voices silences and they need to live with that unfortunate position."

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http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/UniteHERE_ad_Hillary_Clinton_does_not_respect_our_people.html

[Fresh_Start]

1. remind me again why the other 20-55% of ppl in NV

are okay to disenfranchise because the party bosses want a caucus instead of a ballot?

[DJ13]

5. remind me again why the other 20-55% of ppl in NV

"are okay to disenfranchise because the party bosses want a caucus instead of a ballot?"


It seemed like a good idea back when the party assumed Hillary wouldnt have any competition.

Funny how that worked out, isnt it?

[Fresh_Start]

14. I'm against caucuses since it severely depresses

participation in the primary.

only one caucus state participation >10%.
only one ballot state participation <10%

Caucuses should be eliminated.
My guy Edwards did great in the Iowa caucus. But I still object on the grounds that it reduces voter involvement.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. I Support A Secret Ballot

The right to vote free from intimidation is the most sacred right of all and the right which on all other rights rest...

[Yuugal]

43. Yeah, me too

We already have way too much peer pressure on our society and having a secret ballot is truer democracy.

[L0oniX]

2. Shillary is a lawyer. WTH do you expect?

[Maven]

3. So are Obama and Edwards.

?

[aquart]

7. About that painful ignorance...

Perhaps a cream or lotion?

[TwilightZone]

So are Edwards, Obama, and half of Congress. Or more.

[cali]

16. Hmm. Let's see. Obama: Civil right lawyer. Edwards: Plaintiff's lawyer

Clinton: Corporate lawyer.

[Name removed]

42. Deleted message

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[fooj]

4. His campaign slogan is "Si, se puede"???

Hmmmmm. Doesn't surround himself with many creative "experts", does he?

Cesar Chavez coined that phrase. Does the man think up ANYTHING on his own?

[jefferson_dem]

9. It's a beautiful thing.

Check it out ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIyPM5oy4U4

[fooj]

46. Depends what your definition of "beautiful" is.

Stealing the UFW's slogan, that is. Like I said earlier...does he think up ANYTHING on his own?

[Skip Intro]

6. now we are in the gutter - sick stuff

really effn sick

[HeraldSquare212]

8. Dolores Huerte is Farmworkers, from California, no?

How long has she been in Nevada? Even if Obama is going to poll 10%, I doubt there's not one Latino supporting him. I'm surprised that someone with such a great background would be so partisan.

[jefferson_dem]

13. Now that's pure irrational hate on exhibition.

Fits right in with the HillaryInc camp...

EDIT: To be clear, I am referring to Ms. Dolores Huerte rather than the poster I'm responding to. :)

[NJObamaWoman]

27. This seems to be the ringing message in NV.

"I doubt there's not one Latino supporting him"

That Latino's wont vote for a black man. I've heard this many times over the past few days and its sickening.

[sandnsea]

10. She should talk to Temo Figueroa

and Marshall Ganz

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?pid=238867

What is it about Hillary's campaign that turns respectable people into bald-faced liars.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. How Low Will They Go

First they said Hillary doesn't like black people...Now they are saying she doesn't like Hispanic people...Hillary is being Swift Boated...

[jefferson_dem]

17. Who is this they you speak of?

Unite-HERE?

Don't cry to us about poor Hillary. That silly dog won't hunt.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. Fuck That Shit

How dare you support calling people racists and bigots without proof?

[jefferson_dem]

21. Oh please. Where did anyone call Hillary a racist or a bigot?

Did you support the Hillary machine's efforts to suppress the votes in NV? That's what this is about.

[cali]

19. Obama never said anything of the sort. Nor did anyone with his campaign.

And Hillary isn't being swiftboated at all.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

22. Then He Should Repudiate It

Here's a link to a thread where an Obama supporter called Edwards supporters racists:


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4095009


Look at Post#16... It was deleted!!! ... But you can tell by the responses what was written...

[jefferson_dem]

24. Repudiate what?

I would say more than "Hillary is shameless" if she tried to use legal maneuvers to prevent me from voting, in accordance with long-established rules.

I literally cannot believe i'm here arguing with Dems about the importance of voting rights.

EDIT: I do not support calling people racists without evidence.

[HeraldSquare212]

29. Yeah, I'd equate try to stop me from voting to lack of respect, and I suspect all here would.

The response doesn't really make sense to me. It was a latino group that was targeted in the lawsuit, and a latino group that is taking offense.

[rinsd]

30. Hillary is shameless is tough and a bit mean spirited

But in the realm of negative ads, not the worst thing ever.

"Hillary Clinton does not respect our people"

This is a bunch of bullshit.

[jefferson_dem]

32. "Our people" =

What is UNITE HERE?

UNITE (formerly the Union of Needletrades, Industrial and Textile Employees) and HERE (Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees International Union) merged on July 8, 2004 forming UNITE HERE. The union represents more than 450,000 active members and more than 400,000 retirees throughout North America.

UNITE HERE boasts a diverse membership, comprised largely of immigrants and including high percentages of African-American, Latino, and Asian-American workers. The majority of UNITE HERE members are women.

http://www.unitehere.org/about/

[rinsd]

38. Yes I am sure voters will understand that the ads refers to the union.

Especially with a name like UNITE HERE.

:eyes:

Its race baiting bullshit.

But I guess since it worked once, might as well tap that well again.

[cloudythescribbler]

45. Question -- wasn't the comment by Dolores Huerta (who I greatly admire) no less "ethnic"

This overparsing really reflects the degree to which many mainstream Democrats drink the Kool-Aid of 'reverse racism'. And no, neither black solidarity nor Latino solidarity are "racist". I would agree that the likes of Khallid Abdul Maurice Templesman Muhammed secularly put forward a worldview that was anti-white racism. But UNITE HERE?

Too (selectively) purist by half

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. "Hillary Clinton does not respect our people."

If you think suggesting Hillary disrespects Hispanic people is appropriate discourse there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion...

Expect it to become a huge media event that will backfire...

[jefferson_dem]

36. "Our people" are those who Hillary disrespected so much

that she tried to prevent their right to caucus in arrordance with the agree-upon rules.

***

What is UNITE HERE?

UNITE (formerly the Union of Needletrades, Industrial and Textile Employees) and HERE (Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees International Union) merged on July 8, 2004 forming UNITE HERE. The union represents more than 450,000 active members and more than 400,000 retirees throughout North America.

UNITE HERE boasts a diverse membership, comprised largely of immigrants and including high percentages of African-American, Latino, and Asian-American workers. The majority of UNITE HERE members are women.

http://www.unitehere.org/about/

[jackson_dem]

48. And he should call for it to be taken off the air

This is what Obama was saying on his high horse about ads like this from "special interests" (Yes, Obama thinks unions are a special interest) just three weeks ago in Iowa.

[glowing]

12. Wasn't this the kind of stuff he was calling Edwards out on in Iowa?

[redqueen]

15. Wow...

This race-baiting crap is *extremely* counterproductive.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. It's Sad

There was an Obama supporter in another thread who said Edwards supporters are racist...

Hmmm, by her logic if you don't support Hillary you're a misognyst... The only thing worse than hating one quarter or so of the human race is hating half of it...

[redqueen]

25. Oh yes, I saw that.

*sigh*

[DemocratSinceBirth]

34. We Had A Battle Royale Yesterday

But I would never call you or anybody a bigot without proof and a lot of it...

[redqueen]

39. Oh I didn't call anyone names...

but I did point out that doing that... saying "Blacks do this" or "Latinos do that" is racism. I insisted and insisted... but I don't think anyone was swayed. It was hard to understand.

[NJObamaWoman]

23. It Goes Both Ways.

This past weekend I saw a Hilary pollster who is latino say that Latino's wont vote for a black person. They rather vote for a white person instead. That sickened me as a black woman. Hey don't vote for him because of the issues is fine. But not voting for him because he's black is wrong. Ugh and I'm suppose to feel passionately now for latino issues like immigration now when people hardly talk about Haitian immigration?

The race baiting is going both ways and its truly sickening.

[redqueen]

26. Yes, I was in a thread with comments like that.

It nearly sent me into fits! :banghead:

I reeeeeally didn't like being told what Latinos and Blacks do and don't believe or do. I thought we were beyond stereotyping entire groups of people. *sigh*

[NJObamaWoman]

35. Thanks for saying that.

My co-worker said that some latinos do identify themselves as white so he could see some people in this group not voting for Barack because of race. I was just heart broken because I've always supported latino culture, hell I support anybodies culture really. But to hear something like that really hurt because I'm black.

Thanks for the comment because I think its time for all ethnic groups especially Latinos & Blacks to say we aren't supporting this or that candidate because of race.

[redqueen]

40. Well we can't, because some are...

that's the whole thing... you can't pigeonhole an entire group of people one way or another.

All I can hope is that people see that it's nonsense. No group of people - not any racial group nor any gender group - will ever split evenly along any lines. There are too many independent thinkers. Thank God! :)

[Zynx]

37. I never thought we would lose the 2008 election over this.

[redqueen]

41. Did you see the comic someone posted here?

With the dems on the '08 bus, heading toward a cliff?

*sigh*

[annie1]

33. holy shit. that. is. awful. AWFUL.

[Evergreen Emerald]

44. So, Obama plays the race card again.

What is new.

[jackson_dem]

47. The media needs to call him on it

[Perry Logan]

49. Feel the unity...