Hillary Clinton reveals personal anguish over Lewinsky saga

[ProSense]

Hillary Clinton reveals personal anguish over Lewinsky saga

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Hillary Clinton said in an soul baring interview aired Friday she never doubted her husband's Bill Clinton's love for her, despite the former president's affair with a White House intern.

The former first lady, locked in a tight battle for the Democratic presidential nomination with Barack Obama, candidly revealed her inner torment after the infidelity, first reported 10 years ago.

"I really had to dig down deep and think hard about what was right for me, what was right for my family," Clinton said on the Tyra Banks talk show on Fox television.

"I never doubted Bill's love for me, ever, and I never doubted my faith and my commitment to our daughter and our extended family.

"But I had to decide what I ought to do, I think it is so important to be able to hear yourself at a moment when it is hard ... there are so many times when you really have to listen to yourself."

Asked by Banks whether she was embarrassed by Clinton's relationship with Monica Lewinsky, which eventually led to his impeachment, she said "sure, all of that."

"The momentary feelings -- you are mad, you are really upset, you are disappointed, all of that goes through your mind.

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Nice strategy.

LOL!

[mrdemocrat78]

1. See, and I get yelled at for posting a joke about it...

If you're going to use it for stragety... It's fair game.

[Pathwalker]

2. So, when she was asked about it, she should have told

a dumb joke, or what?
How dare she explain her feelings! :sarcasm:

[hedgehog]

6. Simple - she should have told the producers that she was there to talk about

her plans for America and that any questions about Lewinsky were off-limits .

[Inuca]

22. Sure

that's why she went on that fluffy show, to discuss in detail her economic policies.

[grantcart]

29. glad to see her new cozy relationship

with Rupert Murdoch is paying off

[leftynyc]

36. And then people would have bitched

about her putting limits on the questions. There is no way to satisfy everyone.

[mrdemocrat78]

7. She should have done the same thing Bill should have done

said it's personal and i don't want to discuss it.

Had he done that in the FIRST place, they wouldn't have tried to impeach him.

[Pathwalker]

23. I think you underestimate the right wing's determination

to destroy the Clinton presidency, especially since it was their publicly stated goal. Why on earth do you believe they wouldn't have tried to impeach him if he'd just remained silent? There was that Paula Jones court case, after all - are suggesting he should have told the court that he didn't want to discuss it?

[DaLittle Kitty]

43. And You Want Her In The General Election?

:crazy:

[Pathwalker]

45. Back at ya!

I guess you growing up is out of the question?

:dunce:

[Auntie Bush]

64. Damn right I do!

No one is better vetted! You can't deny that... as much as you'd like.

[Orangepeel]

40. in regard to Bill, you have it backwards

the didn't impeach him because of Monica. They found out about Monica because they were trying to impeach him.

[rinsd]

3. Yeah you should have been praised for posting a RW email about the Clintons

:puke:

[mrdemocrat78]

9. It was a joke... get over it.

You don't see me on here slamming everyone who posts something about Obama that I dont like do you?

[rinsd]

13. Perhaps you can show me where people posted RW emails about Obama

Then laughed about them.

[mrdemocrat78]

20. Dude.. It was a joke! Get over yourself.

She's not your mom! She's a politician. If I want to post a joke about bill cheating... It's my damn right... Just like it's anyone elses right to post something about Obama.

You don't see me going around harrassing everyone I have a difference of opinion with.

If you couldn't take the joke, you shouldn't have read it. I gave AMPLE warning right at the top of my post.

[rinsd]

26. I see you don't like it being pointed out that you post RW garbage.

There's an easy solution to that.

Don't post RW garbage.

[LostinVA]

70. That was locked

[babylonsister]

4. Soul bearing...to Tyra Banks...on Faux?! You can't make it up! nt

[Radical Activist]

54. Oprah was busy.

[hisownpetard]

65. Can you believe she went on the Tyra show? What's next - a cameo appearance on

"I Love New York II"?

[Debi]

76. Ugh!

x(

[gdaerin]

90. exactly! n/t

[gateley]

5. I think she said pretty much the same thing in her book -- it's not as though

she's never addressed it before. I'm not sure if it's part of her strategy, or part of Tyra's strategy to get ratings. :shrug:

[ProSense]

8. Don't know? n/t

[gateley]

11. Yeah -- I give everybody the benefit of the doubt. It's a curse, and I'm not kidding. nt

[Capn Sunshine]

10. I think she did a massive calculation in her head

I don't envy her that ; and I don't doubt her sincerity, but I'm sure no one would deny Hillary weighed everything against her own political future.

And let's face it, Bill is one ultra charming guy, and in this respect she's certainly as susceptable to this as anyone, I would posit possibly moreso.

[Bonobo]

12. Well, she's got the "As the World Turns" vote locked up!

[leftynyc]

38. As millions of people watch soap operas

I'm sure she's fine with that.

[CTyankee]

14. I really thought this was a joke making the rounds of DU. It is hard to believe

that HRC is doing this. I've only watched a small portion of only one Tyra Banks show and it was pretty awful.

Am I being a snarky snob to be so bewildered that HRC would go on this kind of show and talk about her private business, which is none of our business? I've always thought that she was right to not get into the whole Monica thing in public, because it drags down the debate and political atmosphere. Or maybe I'm just an old fogey. I think I'd rather do anything rather than subject myself to such exposure...

I am appalled...

[cali]

19. In a nutshell:

She's going after the votes of young African American women an she's going for the pity vote by sending out a message that says something like "I'm a long suffering woman just like you".

It might work.

[sufrommich]

34. She's getting it out there to minimize the right wing

smear machines ability to use it against her.Speaking to women does not constitute "going after the pity vote". If she didn't bring it out,she would be accused of ignoring the elephant in the room.From what I saw of it,I saw no wallowing in pity,just pretty plain language about how she felt about it.

[Debi]

75. The right wing didn't know that Bill Clinton cheated on his wife with a

25-year-old intern? How'd we keep that from them all this time :eyes:

[tigereye]

21. I suspect she thinks that this is still an issue for a lot of people

or at least for the tabloid-style audience....

Can't say that I think dredging all that stuff up again makes much sense. But then again we have never had the wife of a previous president run for office and be questioned on all of that President's past "baggage." It's a very odd and complex scenario and you can't avoid some aspects of that subtext.

[LostinVA]

44. Some posters HERE keep dragging it up -- often in nasty or "joking" ways

Ick.

[tigereye]

81. yeah, that's true

it seems like a really limited way of looking at someone. Personally I don't think that analyzing every aspect of an individual's personal life and commentary is a really credible way to choose a President, or any candidate, for that matter.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

15. so she talks about her husband cheating on her and she shouldnt have anguish?

wtf?

[ProSense]

18. Who said that? n/t

[CoffeeCat]

16. Nice strategy, indeed...

Many people assert that Hillary's NH-emotional moment was staged. I don't
think it was. I think it was clearly genuine and due to the fact that she
was frustrated, tired and the polls had her behind in NH--after placing 3rd in Iowa.

I do think it was that teary moment that won her the election. I think the win shocked
her campaign, as well as Hillary. Her campaign saw the emotional moment as a turning
point--after losing in Iowa and being behind all week in NH. They decided to parlay
that emotional moment into more winning moments--and we're seeing that in NV with
Hillary's appearance on Tyra.

Hillary's entire NH election-night speech capitalized on that moment. Hillary had
found her voice.

Now, her campaign is attempting to re-create her NH win in NV---by engaging showing that
Hillary is human and vulnerable--just like the rest of us.

I really don't think there's anything wrong with this from a political/PR standpoint. They're
trying to win an election. They found a winning formula and they're using it again.

Will this work? Who knows. This time, Hillary's "emotional moment" is pre-planned and
lacking the spontaneity of the her NH moment. Plus, many will (and are) accusing her
of capitalizing on her first emotional moment and and rolling that ploy into more winning
moments.

So we'll see. I don't think it will have near the impact that her NH moment did.

All candidates engage in these types of strategies. It's not evil or bad. It is what it is...politics.

[Debi]

77. I wonder if it will also work for her in negotiations with other world leaders

"You know, Bill cheated on me, can we discuss those nuclear weapons now...sniff sniff ....somebody hand me a tissue" x(

[CoffeeCat]

83. I hear ya...

From a PR perspective, it's interesting what she's doing.

The assumed this will work in NV, because it worked in NH.

I don't know if the average voter will think too deeply about what she's doing.
They might just see a tough woman who overcame obstacles.

However, this is campaign season. She's not defending herself. No one brought up
this subject first, and attacked her.

There are plenty of ways to show that you're sensitive and caring. You can talk
about aspects of your personal life that don't involve your husband boinking an
intern.

This has a real strange ring to it---using your husband's infidelity to demonstrate
how sensitive you are.

I don't think the Clintons realize how that subject reminds us all of the worst
part of the Clinton years and how Bill Clinton and his behavior derailed our
entire country and enabled Bush garner votes using the "I'll restore integrity to
the White House" meme.

I dunno. I understand what they're doing, but this campaign hasn't exactly impressed
me with their brilliant strategies. Look at her complete failure in Iowa--due to
so many colossal blunders.

Saturday will be interesting, that's for sure.

[Barack_America]

17. I feel sorry for her that this is something she has to talk about...

Whether it's campaign strategy or no, it has to be pretty humiliating.

[gdaerin]

91. That's exactly how ploys for sympathy work!

A ploy for sympathy has to to involve someone humiliating themselves or showing their "softer" side.

It's all just ammo for the GE, the repugs will have no problem throwing it all back at her.

[maddiejoan]

24. Considering she is about to be raked over the coals

regarding her marriage to Bill in this book by Sally Bedell Smith, she is smart to get ahead of the issue by speaking to probably the only audience that even cares.

[jwirr]

25. We had better get used to talking about this - even joking - because

if Hillary becomes our candidate we can be absolutely sure that the pugs are going to use it to their advantage.

[loveangelc]

27. um...sure she was.

[loveangelc]

28. um...sure she was.

[BarackBucks]

30. I'm sorry but she is so full of it

As a woman I am ashamed of her. Everyone knows Bill is still running around on her. What kind of a freaky marraige is this? The both of them are just to weird for me.

Any self-respecting woman would have booted his ass out long ago, (except for the apparent political deal that has been struck.)

[Saturday]

32. As a woman I'm ashamed of you for being ashamed of Hillary.. n/t

[sufrommich]

35. I second that.nt

[Beacool]

67. I third that!!

[LostinVA]

71. Me too

[bellasgrams]

79. me too, double that

[BarackBucks]

84. Sorrrrrrrryyyyyy! Hillary brought it up and it is fair game

She is using all her so-called "personal anguish" in an effort to win votes. Her sick facade of a marraige is on the table as she is the one who put it there. It's my opinion that it is sick based on my knowledge of the facts, my intelligence and my life experience. I do not care if you like it or not.

You no like it?... Find another forum. I stand by it times ten.

[gdaerin]

92. As a woman I'm ashamed of you Not being ashamed of Hillary n/t

[Pathwalker]

94. Rofl!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[DURHAM D]

106. Amen.

If that poster is really a female (which I doubt) she has rejection issues she needs to deal with.

[leftynyc]

41. Everyone knows???

Got some proof of that or just speaking out your ass??

And she made a choice that you don't agree with - tough shit.

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[Adelante]

62. It's her life. It's her business.

I probably could have lived without this TV appearance, but I would never presume to tell any woman or man how to deal with infidelity.

[BarackBucks]

85. There is no infidelity

Because there has never been any fidelity. You should really think for yourself. She is a sham and con artist and all self-respecting women should be ashamed of her.

[gdaerin]

93. I second that!

[rinsd]

95. "You should really think for yourself."

You the fuck do you think you are talking to WesDem like that?

She didn't say anything nasty to you.

Enjoy your granite!

[Pathwalker]

102. What are you - some effing preacher? Who the hell are you

to tell all women what they "should" do? That is so damned sexist, patronizing, condescending and downright insulting that YOU should be ashamed of yourself, you Neanderthal!!!!

[Evergreen Emerald]

66. What the hell do you know about anyone's personal relationships?

How dare you judge anyone.

Who the hell are you?

[sunonmars]

31. then again there is also......

a lot of people who are still extremely pissed off that they tried to throw Bill out of office for a blowjob while Bush got away scott-free, i know, it still pisses me off.

[BeyondGeography]

33. We should all be able to agree on this: No blow job has ever had a longer shelf life

[wintersoulja]

47. Even I object to that sort of misogyny and terminology

You could have shortened that subject header, and you still can.
Believe you me, I dont begrudge BJ a BJ now and then. But I'll be damned if anyone should be calling Monica a "*** ****".
Thats just wrong on a number of levels.

[BeyondGeography]

48. Done

[wintersoulja]

50. cool, Im sure she was very good

We all should be so fortunate.

[BeyondGeography]

51. I'm not opposed in principle either

getting caught, that's another story. All those lovely, older discreet women in Washington...C'mon, Big Dog!

[wintersoulja]

58. I wouldnt worry about him

worry about me!

[DrFunkenstein]

37. I'm Sure Bill's Multiple Indiscretions Wouldn't Come Up in a General Election

Well, at least not from Giuliani - Mr. Three Times a Lady.

[wintersoulja]

39. and the ones since they left the Oval Office wont be mentioned

because there werent any.

[DaLittle Kitty]

42. And... Bill's Most Recent Trists W/ The Wealthy Canadian or Was That The French Corporate Blonde?

That won't cum up either... will it? :think: :eyes:

[Pathwalker]

46. Got a link? Or just spreading BUSHIT?

uh-huh.

[rodeodance]

105. nasty post.

[gdaerin]

96. It won't be Guiliani in the GE

the Repugs just aren't that stupid. And if they are then we know something funny is going on . . .

And, this will come up, maybe it'll be in emails (kind of like Clinton's Obama emails) But, regardless, it'll be there.

What looks better to an evangelical? Bill and Hillary or Huckabee and whoever his wife is?

Which is more Wholesome?

[ChiciB1]

49. OMG... Didn't We See Something Like This BEFORE NH???

I'm really not trying to be nasty, but this seems very very suspicious... AFTER ALL THESE YEARS!!!!

[gdaerin]

97. Exactly, the timing is exactly the same too, coincidence?

I think not!

[Radical Activist]

53. Did she cry?

Here we go again.

[zulchzulu]

60. It depends on what the meaning of "cry" is

Some say she did. Some say she didn't. Some people say...

[sufrommich]

61. No,she didn't.Of course,she didn't

in New Hampshire either.

[toughboy]

55. Bitter Kerry Supporter?

[Orsino]

56. Cue Tweety taking her to task for playing the sympathy card...

...and reminding us that her husband had an affair.

[robbedvoter]

57. "Tyra" is not on Faux. here in NYC it's on - CW or MY 9. Ny Post attacks her

on daily basis. So all that Murdoch BS is out of place.
I won't even touch the sexist gossipy stuff.:puke:

[zulchzulu]

59. Earth to Hillary: Why are you reminding people about your husband being a cheater...

...while he's pimping for you on the campaign trail.

That's a change.

[wintersoulja]

63. its called inoculating

you think they cant run the same game as Rove?

[jenmito]

68. How conveeeeeenient. A day before the NV caucus. I think people won't see this as a coincidence.

Hopefully they'll see it for the strategy it clearly is.

[Debi]

78. Maybe she just needed to talk with her girlfriend about her man problems

:cry:

How dare you begrudge a woman that :yoiks:

[gdaerin]

99. Hahahaha lol, you're funny, seriously I actually did lol just now n/t

[Debi]

107. Thanks, and a belated welcome to DU

:hi:

[jenmito]

104. You're probably right. Her girlfriend Tyra on national tv a day before the NV caucus.

Sorry I didn't think of that. :D

[Debi]

108. Begrudger.er

:eyes:

[Beacool]

69. This is my take on this issue.

Hillary knows that this topic is going to come up in the GE and she's doing a preemptive strike by putting out her own version of events. Who here thinks that the Repugs won't bring it up?

There's also that hit job book that's coming out on her marriage, more fodder for the grist.......

[elizm]

73. My take...it's her version of the tears right before NH vote....

..She is going for the sympathy vote of women over 50 again since it worked for her in NH. And I am a woman over 50 for the record.

[Beausoir]

72. Good for her! She's a real person who feels real pain. I like her.

It's too bad she is forced to go into this over and over and over again by the Clenis cocksniffers, but she can handle it.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

74. yup

[Debi]

80. Tyra Banks FORCED her to be on the show and talk about a ten year old affair?

:wow:

[gdaerin]

100. Yes, I feel strangely Overwhelmingly Sypathetic all of sudden towards her

It's like she's found her voice and she's speaking directly to me, woman to woman.

She's just such a Real person with Real problems, who would have thought!?

[beachmom]

82. Unbelievable. So it's Tears Part 2 just in time for the caucus tomorrow.

Ugh, ugh, ugh.

Are people going to fall for this crap???

[Disturbed]

87. Will this come up again?

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://blogs.motortrend.com/6206719/car-news/this-ought-to-spice-things-up-at-chrysler/index.html&h=349&w=600&sz=138&hl=en&start=20&um=1&tbnid=zux0QJM0diRevM:&tbnh=79&tbnw=135&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2BBelinda%2BStronach%2B%26svnum%3D10%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DX

[truedelphi]

109. After NV there will only be 48 more 'tearing up' sessions to go

[madrchsod]

86. she goes on tyra but won`t do a vogue photo shoot?

"But Wintour didn't take Clinton's dis lightly. In her February editor's letter, Wintour takes Clinton to task for being behind the times.--->

"Imagine my amazement, then, when I learned that Hillary Clinton, our only female president hopeful, had decided to steer clear of our pages at this point in her campaign for fear of looking too feminine. The notion that a contemporary woman must look mannish in order to be taken seriously as a seeker of power is frankly dismaying."


"Vogue has featured Sen. Clinton with her family and by herself in sizeable features six times since 1992, and she was the first first lady to appear on the magazine's cover, in December 1998."



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who is running her campaign now?

[AtomicKitten]

88. Funny how the Clinton people are constantly reminding of the attacks that would come against Obama

- all the while making those attacks themselves - when the BIG ELEPHANT in the room is the Clinton marital infidelity saga. It brought a nation to its knees in the 1990s. I have always felt the MSM were complicit, but it was Bill Clinton himself that gave the Republicans the ammunition.

Well, kids, if Hillary gets the nod, look forward to 24/7 coverage of Bill Clinton's zipper. And, yes, I do blame him for providing the ammunition for that witch hunt.

[AlertLurker]

89. People @ DU are going to bash her because of this...

I see this as a pretty damn smart move, though.

Think about it - everybody ALREADY knows FAR more than they want to about this and it is BOUND to be brought up by some RW M$M scumbag at SOME point.

She goes on Tyra's show and gets to target the EXACT demographic she is looking for - female, African-American, Southern, 30-65. She ges to come off as a dogged, faithful fighter telling a victim's tale, and she gets to do this with pretty much the most sympathetic audience she could hope to find anywhere in the US. And the demographic fits exactly her target demographic for the SC Primary. Genius.

She is getting out in front of this - addressing it in HER words, in her time, to her audience.

I think this was a brilliant move, and I can't see how it backfires (famous last words) on her.

I am no Hillary fan, but even I must say: "BRAVA!"

[mtnsnake]

98. Ahh, you're just pissed over Kerry getting his ass handed to him by that imbecile Bush

so now that Kerry has endorsed Obama, you're going full out with your anti-Clinton propaganda. What else is new. All I gotta say is thank goodness neither Hillary or Obama will surrender like Kerry did!!

[ProSense]

101. Kerry endorsed Obama. n/t

[mtnsnake]

103. That's what I said. nt

[ProSense]

110. Kick! n/t