Bill Clinton trashes Obama, but here's a perfect example of Bill's bad ideas

[ProSense]

It's established that Hillary admires Reagans and Bush Sr. and enjoys Bush Jr's company, but here is a perfect example of how far Bill Clinton will go to suck up to the Bushes.

Elder Bush nixes Clinton trip idea

Bill Clinton said Monday he and former President Bush would go on a diplomatic mission if Hillary Clinton became president.

WASHINGTON (CNN) — Former President George H.W. Bush has shot down his successor Bill Clinton’s idea of a diplomatic mission under a Hillary Clinton presidency that would send him and other notables abroad to assure other nations that “America is open for business and cooperation again.”

The move came one day after Bill Clinton made the suggestion on the campaign trail in South Carolina, in response to a question from a supporter about his wife’s “number-one priority” upon reaching the White House.

In a statement sent to CNN Tuesday afternoon, former President Bush’s chief of staff Jean Becker said that he “wholeheartedly supports the President of the United States, including his foreign policy. He has never discussed an ‘around-the-world-mission’ with either former President Bill Clinton or Sen. Clinton, nor does he think such a mission is warranted since he is proud of the role America continues to play around the world as the beacon of hope for freedom and democracy.

“President Bush is excited about several of the excellent Republican candidates running for president, and looks forward to discussing their candidacy once the Republican nominee is determined.”

[Gman]

1. It doesn't matter.

Bill's enthusiasm is contagious. Poppy may say that now. But he'll be going along on the trip next year.

[suston96]

2. Poppy Bush and Bill Clinton did a great job on the tsunami fund-raisiing and spent weeks together...

You don't know much about how and why the Clintons do things.

So I think this topic is bullshit.

[moriah]

3. Especially the name of the topic... flamebaiting... n/t

[Imagevision]

4. Bill; "I better stop taking photo's with senior Bush, voters may get the wrong idea"...

[ProSense]

5. Kick! n/t

[beachmom]

6. One word for the Clintons: HYPOCRITES!

[ProSense]

7. Kick! n/t

[mtnsnake]

8. Another thread by the person who helps Republicans more than Democrats

Just look at the number of anti-Clinton threads you've posted in the last 24 hours. I'm sure that Republicans everywhere wish to thank you for all your many superb anti-Clinton threads. Later this year they'll have an encyclopedia of propaganda to use, thanks to you!

[ProSense]

9. "Elder Bush nixes Clinton trip idea" n/t

[mtnsnake]

10. "John Kerry gets whipped by a complete imbecile" n/t

[ProSense]

12. Kerry endorsed Obama. n/t

[mtnsnake]

13. Yeah, maybe he'll teach Obama how to fight back against the RW attacks if he gets the nod (snicker)

[ProSense]

14. Maybe! n/t

[Bluerthanblue]

23. and this is an example of helping the Democratic party?

your criticism of the OP falls flat when viewed in relation to your own words here.

I hope you will think hard about your own effect on this party-

We'd all do well to look at our own motivations and the ramifications of our words-

:shrug:

[dailykoff]

11. Another Young Republican candidate passing herself off as a Dem.

Sorry, but you can't fool all of the people all the time.

[mtnsnake]

15. Hillary is more of a Democrat than you could ever dream of being.

Make that a thousand times more

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[CTLawGuy]

20. we're just thanking Clinton supporters for their dishonest

anti-Obama threads.

[Bluerthanblue]

21. do you also call out those who post anti Obama sentiments?

Or are you using the excuse of "defending the Democrats" only for candidates who encourage bringing our country together?

[ProSense]

17. Kick! n/t

[paulk]

18. I am damn glad you don't support my candidate

the vitriol and hate that has become your stock in trade is better laid at the door of someone else.

[ProSense]

19. Me too! n/t

[Name removed]

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[ProSense]

24. "Elder Bush nixes Clinton trip idea" n/t

[mtnsnake]

26. "John Kerry gets beaten by an imbecile and surrenders to him without a fight" n/t

[ProSense]

27. Kerry endorsed Obama! n/t

[mtnsnake]

30. and Edwards probably celebrated!

Edwards has enough problems just fighting to get equal time from the media that he doesn't need the kiss of death from John Kerry.

[Name removed]

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[ProSense]

34. Self-righteous hypocrisy

Barney Frank "stupefied" by Obama's inane comments on Reagan
more

Obama's vision of the Presidency is whack
more

[paulk]

35. if you have a problem with these posts of mine -

perhaps you'd care -

to state exactly what it is - calling it "self righteous hypocrisy" just doesn't quite cut it as an argument...

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"Barney makes a really good point, and it's not the one most
people are pinning on. That Reagan was a right winger isn't relevant to what Obama said IMHO... but Frank nails the real problem -

"This notion that style in the presidency trumps substance, is a terrible error."

That's what I got from what Obama said - that style trumps substance. It was a feeling I've had about the Obama campaign all along - it's why I haven't been able to support him - and now he has come right out and said it."

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"I have to agree.
And it's the main reason I haven't been able to warm to his candidacy. It's this whole leadership by inspiration thing. It's not something I can relate to - or even respond to it seems. Maybe I'm too much of a cynic when it comes to politics.

I want a politician that knows the issues inside out - that is willing to get their hands dirty fixing them.

They called Reagan "the great communicator". I always thought of him as "the great bullshitter". Obama seems to think that is a good leadership model."



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[ProSense]

36. Frank is distorting Obama's message, as noted

here and here.

You are criticizing me for posting a clip of Edwards saying Clinton is doing the same thing that Bush did, and yet you have no problem with others posting distortions. In fact, you agree with them.

[paulk]

37. I never said that Frank was distorting Obama's message

That's your opinion, not mine.

I think I explained my feelings about the Obama campaign in an honest fashion.

I really don't know where you're getting this stuff.

[saltpoint]

25. Stir it up.

[ProSense]

28. OC, may I ask that you not be selective in making your point? n/t

[saltpoint]

29. You may not.

[ProSense]

31. That's fine. n/t

[saltpoint]

32. It's also fair.

I hate introducing that word into one of your recent posts. It's jarringly incongruent.