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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:36 AM
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are dems going to be as stupid about Reagan as the republicans are?
recall how ridiculous this is:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pesbcAei6p8

Are the democrats and especially their supporters going to be just as ridiculous in using Reagan's name to rile their base?
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wake.up.america Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:46 AM
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1. Apparently some of the Demos believe some Democrats believe Reagan...
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 12:46 AM by wake.up.america
was a saint.

I think he was a "I've got mine, got get yours," type of guy.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:54 AM
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2. so what?
does that make you a better candidate for Best Liberal?
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:54 AM
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3. Like voting on the IWR, the patriot act, the Kyle/Lieberman amendment is "good judgement"
And some Democrats and their supporters believe that using Bill Clinton will help THEIR BASE:


http://alternet.org/story/72336



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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:55 AM
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4. Personally, Reagan was a racist. Wanna see why?
Reagan’s “Dismal Legacy on Civil Rights”
Subtitle: It’s Not the “Kumbayah” That Gets Things Done, Mr. Obama. It’s Hard-Fought Legislation Enacted Over the Protests of “Movement Conservatives,” Especially the Legislative Achievements of the 1960s, 1970s, 1980s, and the 1990s.

Mr. Obama, get over your iconic view of Ronald Reagan’s message: Reagan was a racially divisive and socially regressive president. From the New York Times editorial page on March 21, 1988:

Ronald Reagan appears determined to go down in history as a President who sought actively to set back the cause of civil rights. How else can one read his veto of the four-year, bipartisan effort to restore the reach of antidiscrimination laws narrowed by a Supreme Court ruling? Congress appears to have the votes to override the veto. Decency argues for doing so, without delay. <…>

The Administration has consistently pursued a disruptive policy on civil rights, from its attempt to give tax exemptions to racially discriminatory Bob Jones University to its efforts to weaken the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights. …

Yes, President Ronald Reagan fought the IRS denial of tax exemption to the racist Bob Jones University. President Reagan also:

introduced an amendment to the Voting Rights Act would require evidence of intent to discriminate and thus weaken the act;
expressed concern over the cost of honoring Martin Luther King with a national holiday (but signed the law because Congress seemed “bent” on it);
launched his 1980 election campaign with endorsements of “states rights” in Philadelphia, Mississippi, a city famous for the murder of three civil rights workers; and
joined Barry Goldwater in opposing the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:02 AM
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5. That wasn't Obama's point. He didn't agree with reagan's policies
DID YOU EVEN LISTEN TO WHAT HE SAID

Obviously you have no problem with the IWR, the patriot act, or the Kyle/Lieberman amendment

Since the War Powers Act and FISA would have provided legal mechanisms for Congress to deal with the executive branch, those that voted for the IWR and the patriot act effectively destroyed that balance of power

You criticism of reagen is quite right, are you also objective to look at what Bill Clinton did?

http://alternet.org/story/72336


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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:07 AM
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6. no doy
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