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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:42 AM
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Reasons why I, a progressive liberal, am supporting John Edwards.
I admit whole-heartedly that Kucinich represents my ideals to a tee. I also recognize that many people recognize his vision for America as a breath of fresh air. At the same time I am practical. Clinton and a few others mention Bush as a blunder. I personally think his administration has been cold and calculating. They have spent the last 7 years hiding things in secrecy and destroying the things we value in America.

A while back I was watching little Fucker on MSNBC and he was going after, I think Trippi, about John wanting banks to give 10 day grace periods on credit card payments again. He thought it was invasive, you know his "libertarian" little ass. But these are the little issue that count. It would help me some days knowing I can be two days late on one of those payment, and John realizes that I, as a supposed middle class person who constantly feels the squeeze, needs that. John realizes that credit cards are middle class welfare with a nice little interest to pay back. It is little issues like these that are important for us to survive the aftermath of Bush.

I also recognize that John isn't as progressive as I am. I do believe that he has the fight, tenacity, and the back door deal wielding ability that his lawyer experience have given him to take back these little things. In 8 yrs, the media conglomerations may be broken up and not monopolizing the candidates, finance reform may be in place, and election systems may actually be accountable. Then is the time we will be able to have a Kucinich or someone like him. Its going to take some work to get this job done. He's not my ideal candidate, but he's the candidate who would ensure that this country moves in the right direction. Its not going to be an overnight fix, after the many years of corruption that eats at the heart of our democracy. AND its going to take us to do some of this work right along with him. He does seem to have this great ability to listen to everyone and breeze through all nighters with grace.

Unfortunately, the people who want him in the general election, normally don't vote in primaries or bother with caucus, and they are often wondering why once again they are stuck with the choice of the lesser of two evils. It is up to us who do vote in the primaries to provide the rest of the country with a candidate who will speak to the heart of the people, who will speak to the independents, and who will bring people out to vote. He may not be a woman, he may not be black, he may not be Kucinich, but he is the right person at this time to fight through the things that effect us day to day, and to bring about the changes that need to be in place for us to move forward.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 08:53 AM
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1. John Edwards is very clearly the only candidate for real change.
I also align better with Kucinich, but he was blacklisted early on, and never stood a chance at getting his message out. Now the media and pollsters are doing the same thing to Edwards.

A Clinton or Obama Presidency will not bring about real change. It will be a new face, and new furniture in the White House, but other than that it will be business as usual.

Clinton and Barack owe the same big businesses that Bush owed. They cannot bring change until they cut the purse strings, and the time to do that has long passed.

Money and the media elect Presidents in this country, and so many Americans are foolish enough to think that their votes really count. Yet they can't see that the powers that be have cleverly removed all of the options, and that isn't America. That's censorship.
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DaLittle Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:00 AM
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2. Yes John IS The ONLY Candidate For Change. The Rest Are little more than Rhetorical Plagiarists! K&R
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:07 PM
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11. Exactly what DaLittle Kitty said...
...couldn't have said it better myself.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:04 AM
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3. Completely agree.. especially if they look at Bush as blunder...
His admin. is deliberate and caculating..
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:08 AM
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4. Sad that the only reason Edwards has more of a chance--
--is that his platform is watered-down Kucinich. The MSM is going after both the weak and the strong versions of populism.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:15 AM
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5. I like John Edwards but I like Kucinich better.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:21 AM
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6. I keep trying to give him a second (third, fourth) look
because of this kind of argument. The idea that he's most progressive, or closest to Kucinich's policies, is very appealing to me. But I don't see it, or can't quite buy it.

His current rhetoric is quite different from his Senate record, and contains a lot of "oopses" -- current regrets about past votes, beyond the IWR. It's hard for me to believe this isn't political positioning rather than conviction, and I don't see the "fighter" part because it's in his words, but there's nothing in his actions to back it up.

I also think, as I wrote once before, that his personal manner is unhelpful to his image as a fighter, and looks to me like flinching. I think that didn't help him in the debate with Cheney and wouldn't help him this time, either.

Having said that, I do sympathize with his supporters that the media seems to be ignoring him. They did the same to General Clark in 2004 and I know it's incredibly frustrating! And, of course if he's the nominee I'll be behind him all the way. I'm just having a hard time buying into the notion that he's now the Kucinich-lite candidate.
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elias7 Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:49 AM
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7. I agree...
I think he talks a great anti-corporate game, but I haven't heard him explain how he would go about putting corporate america in its place. Can anyone give me specifics?
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 09:53 AM
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8. Here is some information that might gjive you better insight::
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/?&Db=d107&querybd ... (FLD004+@4((@1(Sen+Edwards++John))+01573)):

Sense of the Senate for funding lifestyle research for preventative medicine, Sense of the Senate honoring National Science Foundation, Sense of the Senate to preserve six day mail delivery, designating “biotechnology week”, Children’s Internet Safety Month, Joint Resolution against excessive campaign donations, to protect the civil rights of all Americans, Bi-partisan Campaign Reform, Restrict access to personal health and financial information, Establish a Center for National Social Work Research, provide more effective remedies for victims of sex discrimination in work, provide incentive for fair access to the internet for everyone, require fair availability of birth control, increase the minimum wage (’01), protect consumers in managed care programs, emergency relief for energy costs to small businesses, prohibit use of genetic information to discriminate on health coverage and employment, provide families with disabled children to buy into Medicaid, eliminate the loophole for interstate transporting of birds for fighting, provide funding to clean up contaminated land, informing veterans of available programs, Designating part of ANWR as wilderness, establish a digital network technology program, reduce the risk that innocent people be executed, restore funding for Social Security Block Grants, provide for equal coverage for mental health in insurance policies, amend Clean Air Act to reduce emissions from power plants, establish uniform election technology (sponsored by Dodd), extend modifications to funding for Medicare and Medicaid, Federal Funding to local governments to prosecute hate crimes, reinstate certain Social Security earnings exemptions for the blind, overhaul RR retirement plan to increase benefits, Establish a Nurse recruitment and retention program, amend FDA to provide greater access to affordable pharmaceuticals, Establish African American Museum within the Smithsonian, Federal funding for research of environmental factors in Breast Cancer, Increase hospital benefits under Medicare, Establish Tariff Quotas on milk protein imports, Federal funding for mental health community education, protect patients in managed care plans (again), establish Office on Women’s Health in HHS, increase the minimum wage, allow media coverage of trials, prohibit racial profiling, improve health care in rural areas, protect consumers in managed care plans, prohibiting trade of bear viscera, provide greater fairness in arbitration of motor vehicle franchises, provide adequate insurance coverage for immunosuppressive drugs, provide financial assistance for trade-affected communities, acquisition and improvement of child-care facilities, prohibit employment discrimination based on sexual orientation, establish programs to deal with nurse shortage, establish a National Cyber Defense Team to protect the internet’s infrastructure, provide services to prevent family violence, require criminal prosecution for securities fraud, reissuance of a rule on ergonomics, ensure safe pregnancy for all U.S. women, improve investigation and prosecution of rape cases with DNA evidence, improve national drought preparedness, increase the minimum wage (yet again), assistance in containing HIV/AIDS in foreign countries, emergency assistance for small-businesses affected by drought, child care and developmental block grants, provide economic security for America’s workers, enhance security for transporting nuclear waste, FEMA hazard mitigation grants, increase mental health benefits in health insurance, criminal prosecution for people who destroy evidence in securities fraud cases.

Is this the record of a corporate appeaser? Is this the record of someone just loafing about and collecting a paycheck?

Funny what you find when you read a little, isn’t it?

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zalinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 10:45 AM
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9. You might want to read this
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stravu9 Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:08 AM
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10. I Am Very Impressed With Edwards
The party has strayed so far from FDR we need someone to bring it back in that direction or we're doomed.
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