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pathansen Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:13 PM
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Are People Being Fair to Hillary?
I have never been a real strong Hillary fan. However, I just feel it is imperative to be as fair and honest as possible and to present the Whole Truth about our candidates so that is why I decided to post the following opinions in Hillary’s defense:

From the beginning, for many months, Hillary was the primary object of attacks by both parties. Yet her policy consistently had been to attempt to ignore attacks and instead focus on failed Bush policies. When she finally breaks down and starts to defend herself by fighting back, things get even worse, she’s called a “bitch” along with other cruel names and attacks. This is so unfair. Who wouldn’t be crabby after being treated that way?

There have been many things being said against Hillary that are just not true or have been taken out of context and she is often not given any chance to defend herself. For example, she has been criticized many times for voting for the Iraq war. This is false. As she explained, she and Congress voted to allow Bush to use force against Saddan Hussien, to send inspectors in to stop him but that Congress never directly authorized him to start a war. And she and many other Democrats voted for the same bill because they were lied to, led to believe that Hussien had weapons of mass destruction to the point where Congress felt it had no choice but to use force. To find the truth, we also need to study her voting record which looks a lot better than any of the Republican candidates and some of the Democratic candidates.

Then other rumors criticized Hillary for wanting to extend the war. No, in the debate she firmly stated that she would want the troops out quickly, within 60 days.

John Edwards has attacked Hillary more passionately than he ever did Bush/Cheney in the 2004 campaign. Why? Do people honestly feel that Hillary would be worse than Bush?!! Even several Republicans have admitted that the Clinton Adm. was better than the Bush Adm.

Its Hillary’s POLICIES that really matter, not her personality, since its the issues that are going to directly affect Americans if she ever becomes President. If you stay with the facts and look at her actual voting record, you would find more of the truth about her. For example let’s compare her ratings from various interest groups with a potential opponent, John McCain Many people seem to think that John McCain is a moderate conservative who is more likable than Hillary but look at his ratings compared to Hillary:
AFL-CIO Clinton 93% McCain 7%
ALLIANCE FOR RETIRED AMERICANS Clinton 100% McCain 20%
AMERICAN CIVIL LIBERTIES UNION Clinton 83% McCain 33%
AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION Clinton 8% McCain 65%
AMERICAN WILDERNESS COALITION Clinton 100% McCain 16%
AMERICANS FOR DEMOCRATIC ACTION Clinton 95% McCain 16%
AMERICANS FOR PROSPERITY Clinton 0% McCain 100%
AMERICAN PUBLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION Clinton 100% McCain 40%
AMERICAN NURSES ASSOCIATION Clinton 100% McCain 20%
AMERICANS FOR THE SEPARATION OF CHURCH & STATE
Clinton 100% McCain 33%
AM. SOCIETY FOR PREVENTION OF CRUELTY TO ANIMALS
Clinton 100% McCain 20%
BRADY CAMPAIGN TO PREVENT GUN VIOLENCE
Clinton 100% McCain 14%
CHILDREN’S DEFENSE FUND Clinton 100% McCain 10%
DEFENDERS OF WILDLIFE Clinton 100% McCain 40%
DISABLED AMERICAN VETERANS Clinton 80% McCain 20%
LEAGUE OF CONSERVATION VOTERS Clinton 95% McCain 29%
NAACP Clinton 96% McCain 7%
NARAL PRO CHOICE: Clinton 100% McCain 0
NATIONAL ORGANIZATION OF WOMEN Clinton 96% McCain 13%
NATIONAL EDUCATION ASSOCIATION Clinton 100% McCain 0%
NATIONAL FARMERS UNION Clinton 83% McCain 0%
NATIONAL COMMITTEE FOR A MORE EFFECTIVE CONGRESS
Clinton 95% McCain 20%
PLANNED PARENTHOOD Clinton 100% McCain 0%
UNITED AUTO WORKERS Clinton 93% McCain 9%

So, unlike what some people are claiming, Hillary does not support Republican values.

I recently saw a picture of Hillary’s face in a man suit which struck me as
being pretty callous. If Hillary has been sacrificing her femininity to take on a man’s job , maybe she feels she has no choice, that there’s just not that many good male leaders left who are willing to run for President or who have any chance of winning:
• Bill Clinton cannot run again
• Al Gore doesn’t want to run again
• John Kerry doesn’t want to run again
• Barack Hussien Obama has both his Muslim name and Muslim background stacked against him. I also don’t feel I know him very well yet.
• Dennis Krucinich does not have the money or the votes to win and he’s most likely too far to the left to be electable.

Finally, of course, there is Edwards. However, does anyone honestly believe that any these immensely powerful and wealthy corporations would ever allow John Edwards to become President? And if Edwards did by some miracle manage to win and get rid of all these corporations, guess what? Bye-bye jobs.

So I feel in this election we really need to look at the WHOLE PICTURE before making any final decisions.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:16 PM
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1. as far as I know Obama doesn't have a "Muslim background"
you need to explain this comment.
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pathansen Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:53 PM
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15. Kenya & Indonesia are both Muslim countries
Obama's dad is from Kenya and Obama lived as a child in Indonesia for 4 years.
Obama claims that he never practiced Muslim but GOP might try to use this against him.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2007/12/23/voter-asks-obama-about-muslim-background/
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:17 PM
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2. What about vote suppression and planting question?
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 12:21 PM by ProSense
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:18 PM
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3. Hillary has never really been fair with me
We elected her to the senate to lead and she betrayed me every step of the way on the big issues.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:19 PM
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4. Threads are started against her when:
she handles a dirty trick (Iron my shirts) - "it was a set-up"
another candidate plays a dirty trick (Spanish add came somehow as a blow against her)
she wins (NH, Michigan)
she loses (Iowa)
she might lose (what excuse will she make is she loses?)
other wild fantasies ("will she run as an independent)
I am not a supporter either - but been posting fairness posts - and so far she's been keeping me busy more than other candidates in defending absurd accusations
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:20 PM
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5. If Senator Clinton is our nominee, she has my support, end of story. For the
primaries I prefer Senator Edwards, but am aware that any number of other Democrats across the land will vote as they see fit and the nominee in Denver may not be my first choice.

In the larger landscape we should ask whether we want any of our 8 Democrats to appoint Supreme Court Justices or if we want Gov. Huckabee or John McCain to appoint them.

At our house we want the Democrats to appoint them.
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:20 PM
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6. My concern about Hillary comes from my gut
I feel she will do anything and say anything to be elected, and that she is not doing it for the good of the country but for her own ambition.

She has no loyalty to fellow Democrats, in my opinion.

I have every reason to believe she gets her current power and influence from behind-the-scenes actors that control the strings of money and power in this country.

Those are beliefs based on my observations and my gut instinct.

However there is this incontrovertible fact: she hired Mark Penn.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:20 PM
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7. Are people being fair to Lee Mercer, Jr.?
Reasons For Mercer's Presidential Candidacy

1. The United States Federal Congress has encouraged me to want to become President of the United States so that I can do what the President of the United States of America is supposed to do and complete the federal and military government biography and autobiography in development in Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence (All Three) Business and Commerce Intelligence Education across the board National and International.

2. To prove I have a United States Government Bid to be President of the United States America in 2008 and there after a United States Government ROTC Compulsory Action bid for the Presidency of the United States Of America through Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence ( All Three ) / the United States Army Military Intelligence Academy Camp Bullis San Antonio, Texas – The University Of Texas at Austin ROTC – My Home Houston, Texas Old Community Army Base certificate post awarded evidenced by my MERCER FOR PRESIDENT committee members Former U.S. Attorney General Honorable Janet Reno, Former Chief of Staff of the United States Army General Colin Powel and Former Secretary of the United States Army Togo West and if needed others in Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence ( All Three ) Business and Commerce Intelligence National and International.

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18. To prove the United States Government is not a failing government in regulations but a failing Government in regulating regulations for the administration in Business and Commerce Intelligence National and International.

19. To prove how computerized law and all disciplines will do an idea, creation, act, action, intelligence, investigation, an interrogation, solve the crime, help the person and do the due process of law for all circumstances to a person, place and or thing in Business and Commerce Intelligence National and International.

20. To prove how to make a Presidential Election Fun Educationally a Right to Life, Liberty and Justice instead of war in Business and Commerce Intelligence National and International.

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22. To prove every person in the United States of America knows me and everybody in the International World knows me too in Business and Commerce intelligence National and International.

23. To Prove I have solved every crime in the world as it happens from zero to start to finish for every crime done in Business and Commerce Intelligence National and International.

24. To Prove I am a University of Texas at Austin ROTC to West Point Military Academy Road Scholar and Scholar of The World Academic Bid awarded doctor’s degrees student graduate keep in student status in the U. S. Army Military Intelligence Academy Camp Bullis San Antonio, Texas, Houston, Texas a Texas Congress, Texas Senate and United States Congress Business and Commerce Intelligence Project/Program took over by the United States Federal Congress which I am the administer National and International.

25. To Prove I will be the 2nd Negro President of the United States of America in 2008 in my Business Commerce Intelligence National and International.

26. To Prove Chapter 10. Actual or Potential Compromise of Classified Information in my Business and Commerce Intelligence National and International.

27. To Prove I invented this Business and Commerce Intelligence National and International.

28. To Prove Protective Custody in this Texas Congress, Texas Senate and United States Congress Business and Commerce Intelligence Project/Program took over by the United States Federal Congress does wrong conduct in Business and Commerce Intelligence Protective Custody Court Orders of Government Employee and the Government Entity Protection National and International.

29. To Prove I have a lot of Political Official Experience in the United States Government and International Government.

30. To Prove my Presidential Campaign Committee joined my me in my Presidential Campaign and Eye Spy Community- Military Intelligence Business and Commerce Intelligence, my board and staff and me saved the lives of every person alive at this future time.

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32. To Prove President George Walker Bush, Jr. and other Public Officials have been Impeached by the United States Congress in 2004 for torture of me and my family, capital murder in my family, Espionage and other crimes against the state and humanity United States Army Criminal Investigations / Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence ( All Three ) Criminal investigations, Criminal intelligence and Criminal Interrogations of Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence United States Army Military Intelligence Academy Washington, D.C. / Houston, Texas Solo United States of America , the United Nations and All Other Foreign Countries Public Ownership / Nationalization.

33. To Prove I can not bring you the United States of America Government # 2 because it is Overthrown evidence on Electronic Surveillance Record Keeping Satellite Library Manuscripts, Documents, Other Documented Critical Incidents, Breach of Peace Wrong Conduct and Breach of humanity Wrong Conduct but we are Eye Spy Community-Military intelligence (All Three) is in control now. I must bring you Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence (All Three) Government # 1.

34. To Prove the government owes me Zillions of Dollars in money and is refraining to pay me and my business Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence (All Three) Business and Commerce Intelligence National and International.

35. To Prove government employees are operating organize crime rape gangs solved by Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence Business and Commerce Intelligence Electronic Surveillance National and International.

36. To Prove The United States Army Guarantees all of my performances because I am on a United States Army Hot-wire Hookup for performance monitoring as Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence Business and Commerce Intelligence University Of Texas at Austin ROTC The United States Army Military Intelligence Academy.

37. To Prove to The America Public and Government Why the United States Army Military Intelligence Academy Hot-wire Hookup is an important U.S. Government Entity.

38. To Prove the Texas Senate hired me to be Academic in the United States Army Military Intelligence Academy University of Texas at Austin ROTC.

39. To Prove to The United States Army Military Intelligence Academy Home office through Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence (All Three) Business and Commerce Intelligence Criminal Investigations Senator Rodney Ellis State of Texas is trying to kill me and my family a CHAPTER 10 ACTUAL OR POTENTIAL COMPROMISE OF CLASSIFIED INFORMATION perpetrator.

40. To Prove the United States Army Guarantees My Education I have published to you and the rest of my education I will be publishing to you from Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence the United States Army Military Intelligence Academy Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence No longer Camp Bullis San Antonio, Texas Government ownership. It is now Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence World Intelligence.

41. To prove that everything I have published to the public I am working on right now and have been working in this for about 16 years in politics guaranteed by the United States Army.

42. To Prove the New Weapon Methodology, Technology and Technocracy in the Crime War, Drug War, 50 Years of War and Peace, The War in Iran and any other war going on the World of crime. Three of the most dangerous Weapons of the Crime War today are 1. Praying For Persons to die with electronics, 2. Killing the person’s heart with an electric snake hot-wire hookup and 3. Poisoning Persons with Cancer. All of the Evidence is in Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence Business and Commerce Intelligence Criminal Investigations University of Texas School of Public Health Department The United States Army Military Intelligence Academy Camp Bullis San Antonio, Texas Washington, D.C., Houston, Texas My Home Address Electronic Surveillance Satellite Medicine / Public Health Department. Some Of the White Collar Criminals Surveillance And evidenced are doing these crimes are 1. Senator Hillary Clinton 2. Former President Bill Clinton, 3. Former Vice President Al Gore 4. Vice President Dick Chenny 5. President George W. Bush, Jr. 6. Governor Jeb Bush, 7. Former President George Herbert Bush, Sr. 8. Former First Lady Barbara Bush 9. First Lady Laura Bush and 10. Most all of each of the persons above family members are perpetrators of the above crimes in breach of peace and breach of humanity along with their assessors as they were detonated to be crime Families by The United States Department of Defense and The United States Department of Justice Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence Business and Commerce Intelligence ROTC Congressional project/program in Criminal Investigations, Criminal Intelligence and Criminal Interrogations Electronic Surveillance.

43. To Prove I have no money to bring criminals to court the United States Government # 2 due process of law only the United States Government # 1 Intelligence Martial Law and State of Emergency Congress Special due process of Law. This is why the above Perpetrators have not appeared punished to the public eye.

44. To prove that if I spend The United States of America’s Government’s money I will prove I have Already done everything in the World America needs done to be a True Democracy for its Peace and its Humanity. There will be no breach of peace and no breach of humanity and I can prove this if I have some of America’s money to spend. I can prove this before I become President of the United States or after I become President of the United States with the United States Government’s money. The Money I spend will be for a lawyer to represent Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence (All Three) and me as The United States Government # 1. The Government developed to be The United States Government’s Government Consultant, Government Financial Planner and Government Community Developer through Military Intelligence Only.

45. To Prove the definition Kill in the Random House Dictionary of the English Language College Edition Larence Urdang Editor in Chief Stuart Berg Flexner Managing Editor in All Displines across the board through Military Intelligence.

46. To Prove Governor William Perry is killing me and my family very seriously said the Texas Congress 3-28-07 10:36 p.m. I have denotate Governor William Perry as a perpetrator into Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence and Prarie View A& M University for Killing, Espionage, Sabotage and other crimes.

47. To Proved I Lee L. Mercer, Jr. cleaned up the Law Books Of the United States Of America across the Board Notate,Schematic and Tracking National and International.

48. To Prove Protective Custody Airforce is legitimate.

49. To Prove the United States Government killed my sex life, my wife sex life, my daughter-in –laws sex life both may sons and other of my family members sex life with Espionage Experimentation and Espionage Exploitation sex killing.

50. To prove that my Military Curriculum orders are to use Law to defend The United States of America. Prove I am in the U.S. Army Military Intelligence Academy ROTC Intelligence Lawyer Doctor’s Degree Program in National and International Business and Commerce Government Regulation Law detached Into the enemies of the states lines Crime War, Drug War, Organize Crime War, White Collar Crime War, 50 Years of Peace and War War, the Iran War and any other War that have lines to the United States of America’s Government National and International in the past, present and future from a person, place or thing from any crime roots and or routes. I am the United States Army Military Intelligence Academy’s University Of Texas at Austin ROTC / Massachusetts Institute of Technology Intelligence Government Lawyer and Judge Prosecutor Government Consultant, Financial Planner and Community Developer expert witness through Military Intelligence only I am National Security, Government Number 1 is National Security Council.

51. To Prove to you citizens you do not know what and how I am suppose to do for you and what and how I am suppose to do for the United States of America’s Government National and International.

52. To Prove that I am A Military Intelligence Chaplain Lawyer.

53. To Prove Laws regulating adult crime, kids crime and missing persons crime are not crime prevention or Crime solutions after the fact of the crime.

54. To Prove I was hired to Audit Government Employees Performances and conduct with a hot-wire hookup to each government employee through Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence ( All Three ) Electronic Surveillance Satellite by State of Texas Congress / U.S. Federal Congress ROTC Program.

55. To Prove I got over 2000 Tapes to play to prove this program/project is authentic.

56. To Prove Jeb Bush is all in my house with disease.

57. To Prove the Bush Family is a Death Order.

58. To Prove every American citizen and International citizen are on a communications hot-wire hookup to hear my this United States Army Military Intelligence Academy Electronic Surveillance Hot-wire Hookup Intelligence Communications Program/Project by the United States Federal Congress, Texas Senate, U.S. Department Of Justice, U.S. Department of Defense, Texas Congress and the United Nations General Assembly for our safety under our martial law.

59. To Prove Former President George Herbert Bush, Sr. and Vice-President Dan Quale are acting as White Collar Crime Criminal Action Organizers terrorist development has an established illegally after the fact they are not awarded jurisdiction to establish government agencies, government Mafia’s and non-government criminal activity continue to kill United States Army and United States Government Federal Officers in Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence ( All Three ) ROTC Business and Commerce Intelligence undercover federal and military police operation. The Evidence is in Employee roll calls audit, employee autobiographies audit, missing persons report audit, Talk from the grave technology audit, hot-wire hookup audit, criminal intelligence audit, forensic science audit and most of all a citizenship criminal intent audit crime prevention program.

60. To Prove this is a criminal investigations of the whole United States Government’s persons, places and things across the board National and International by the United States Army Military Intelligence Academy’s Military Police and Federal Police Agencies and personnel National and International Core of Geniuses. Also, to prove the United States Government Department of Defense ordered Intelligence to develop The United States Government and the United Nations has asked the same from the same Authentic entity.

61. To Prove I have been sent forward by the from undercover by the U.S. Army Military Intelligence Academy of the State of Georgia they have the records on the perpetration to me-Lee L. Mercer, Jr. to activate the debriefing of the United States Army Military Intelligence Academy San Antonio, Texas Camp Bullis. I will use Chapter 10, Actual or Potential Compromise of Classified Information sections 10-100 Policy through section 10-108 Unauthorized Absences. I will have the Money and Lawyers Jurisdictions to the due process of law to complete this of the United States of America that is needed to Vindicate America. America needs money and lawyers to vindicate itself from this undercover Business and Commerce Intelligence Government Program/Project Defamed by Government Authorities. I was perpetrated.

62. To Prove the State of Texas Government Ordered a Religion Program/Project to work America in December of 1992. This is a religion program that has Authenticated The United States of America’s Democracy through the auditing of its laws, persons, places and things through Military Intelligence, Military Lawyers and an Electronic Law Auditing Computerization Military Intelligence System invention. It has solved everything in the world such as 1. Crime 2. Lack of world peace 3. Poverty 4. Communications 5. Prejudice all 6. Phenomenon guarantee to be true by the United States Army. The U.S. Army Military Intelligence Academy San Antonio, Texas Camp Bullis Religion program to the University of Texas ROTC in Austin Texas. This completed all of my Doctor’s Degrees.

63. To Prove It took millions of doctor’s degrees for me to be President of The United States in The United States Army Military Intelligence Academy Camp Bullis San Antonio, Texas to be certified with an all task completion. There is an auto-biography of my leanings, doings and examples of my governments task academics made hot-wire hookup recording Intelligence Electronic Satellite and a biography of every other person, place and or thing in the world all governments in the world and how I did this I became a teacher and invented computerized education and the applications to make computerized education learn, do and example. This is a GOVERNMENT DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM meaning a program that develops a government 100%. Therefore, I can prove there is no candidate and will be no candidate qualified to be elected president of the United States of America before Candidate Mercer For President, The United States of America’s Government, The United Nations and the American Public Citizenship that is on a communications hot-wire hookup can be Vindicated disclose as America is America through Eye Spy Community-Military Intelligence the new tool of America Electronic Surveillance Government.

64. To Prove My only Guardian Former Governor of Texas Ann Richards has just joined me MERCER FOR PRESIDENT CAMPAIGN and Lt. Col. Charles Wallace of The United States Army Military Intelligence Academy.

65. To Prove this is a Religion Program of Intelligence doing Intelligence, Intelligence doing Law, Intelligence doing Law Enforcement, Intelligence doing Criminal Investigations, Intelligence doing Interrogations, Intelligence doing Medicine, Intelligence doing Public Health, Intelligence doing all the Disciplines in the World and Intelligence doing Education.

66. To Prove America is America.

67. To Prove these perpetrators are trying to stop me from running for President of The United States. They are Vice-President Dick Chenny, Former Vice-President Al Gore and their Assessors. They keep killing my mother and our family the evidence is on my mother’s and our Criminal Intelligence Electronic Surveillance Health Recorder. I do not want these perpetrators to kill my Mother.

68. To Prove I have invented computerized Education to Understand a person, place and or thing, Intelligence, Law, Law Enforcement,Government, Crimes and Criminals, War and any disciplines in the world from its learnings, doings and examples will equal to its Technocracy / Development. For Example, my Presidential Campaign is to be understood by a computerization and automization of Intelligence research data of everything in the world made possible by the United States Army ROTC. This is how a person, place and or thing equals to itself in Education, Law and or anything right or wrong.

69. To Prove a gangster is a terrorist. President George W. Bush, Jr. and Former President George Herbert Bush, Sr. Told us they are the 911 Terrorist evidence of Electronic Satellite recording. Bush is the 911 Terrorist Evidence my ROTC FBI Electronic Surveillance Satellite Recording I wrote took letter to the FBI Houston I was sent by The United Army Criminal Investigations Fort Belvior after I called them and turned him in FBI Houston did not understand told me not to come back. I have solved every crime in America and the world for the last 15 years dating back to before Christ.
REMEMBER A GANGSTER IS A TERRORIST. THE BUSHS ARE GANGSTERS.

70. RELIGION PROGRAM TO WORK AMERICA. The program has solved everything in the world such as 1. All the crime 2. The lack of world peace 3. All the poverty 4. All communications 5. All prejudice 6. All phenomenons guaranteed to be true by the United States Army. This is a U.S. Army FBI ROTC religion program. This made all of my Doctor’s degrees.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:24 PM
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8. gasp. how dare Barack Obama have a Muslim sounding name
how dare he have had a Muslim father? Something should be done about that. There should be a law against people of his ilk running for anything let alone POTUS. It's just outrageous.

Btw, you are wrong. She has not said that she'll get the troops out of Iraq in 60 days. None of the candidates has said that.

And if you don't know much about Obama, that's your fault. He has a website. There are numerous articles about him from virtually every perspective, and he's written two books.

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pathansen Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:44 PM
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25. You misunderstood. I like Obama
I like all of our democratic candidates.
I am just concerned about the GOP using his Muslim background against him.
I get e-mails from certain far right groups who seem to make a big deal out of this.
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Nedsdag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 04:46 PM
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26. WHAT MUSLIM BACKGROUND?????!!!!!!!!
If this is the reason why the Democrats shouldn't nominate Obama, then you are truly pathetic.

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pathansen Donating Member (696 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:50 PM
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27. There was an article on CNN about it
His dad lived in Kenya, a Muslim country. Then Obama lived in Indonesia, a Muslim
country, for 4 years where some say he attended a Muslim school. Obama says he never practiced Muslim but some Republicans may use this against him.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:25 PM
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9. If you read this board long enough, you will discover many don't give a rat's ass
about fairness and the sexism here is pathetic

It's funny to see posters scoff at the freep republic because this place often mirrors it


I hope the real world is a little better
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sunonmars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:28 PM
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10. All i can say is after all the mud that has been slung and she's....

still standing is a testament to her strength.

Most people would have crumbled upon that weight. A lot of people don't see that.
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Glenda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:31 PM
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11. That's what I'm impressed with
She's tough.
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Essene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:40 PM
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12. Race baiting. Gender card. Voter suppression. Yea... i'll be fair.
And i know the facts.
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1620rock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:49 PM
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13. She is one tough cookie.
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:51 PM
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14. my big beef with hill
is she voted for the IWR. Claimed bush tricked her when it had language such as "authorization to use military force against iraq" in it. Plus after the fact she still won't admit her vote was a mistake. If it was not a mistake then you do not regret making a vote that authorized a war with iraq. She is a defacto war supporter and I suspect she will maintain that stance as president. I could really care less if she irons cloths or not.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:53 PM
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16. she needs to lay off the blatantly dishonest attacks
e.g. the "present" votes attack, the drug use concern-troll attack, etc.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:16 PM
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18. You do know Obama DID vote "present" 130 times on controversial issues
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:10 PM
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20. you do know that voting present is common practice in the IL
legislature. Ask IL Planned Parenthood..
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"As ABCNews.com's Political Radar blog noted on July 17, Obama cast his "present" votes on the parental notification bills with the support of Illinois Planned Parenthood:

When Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., voted "present," rather than "yes" or "no" on a handful of controversial abortion votes in the Illinois state senate, he did so with the explicit support of the president and CEO of Illinois Planned Parenthood Council.

"We at Planned Parenthood view those as leadership votes," Pam Sutherland, the president and CEO of the Illinois Planned Parenthood Council, told ABC News. "We worked with him specifically on his strategy. The Republicans were in control of the Illinois Senate at the time. They loved to hold votes on 'partial birth' and 'born alive'. They put these bills out all the time ... because they wanted to pigeonhole Democrats."

Speaking to ABC News as Obama was preparing to join Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and the wife of Sen. John Edwards, D-N.C., in addressing Planned Parenthood's national conference in Washington, D.C., Sutherland said Obama approached her in the late 1990s and worked with her and others in crafting the strategy of voting "present." She remembers meeting with Obama outside of the Illinois Senate chambers on the Democratic side of the aisle. She and Obama finished their conversation in his office.

"He came to me and said: 'My members are being attacked. We need to figure out a way to protect members and to protect women,' " said Sutherland in recounting her conversation with Obama. "A 'present' vote was hard to pigeonhole which is exactly what Obama wanted.""

http://mediamatters.org/items/200712140004

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:14 PM
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17. why don`t like hillary...
hillary believes the power to change comes from the state. i believe the power to change comes from the will of the people. what is needed to change the course this country is on is another lbj-the state and mlk-the people to work together for human rights in this country.

we have been bought and sold by the highest bidder...we let the corporate media decide who we can hear,we let corporations enjoy the comfort of america while they strip our country of jobs,and we elect governments that have no interest in serving we the people. now they are falling all over each other to pay us off by robbing our future.

it`s a choice of who can do the least harm to we the people
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:18 PM
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19. Anyone who sits down and takes money from Rupert Murdoch
deserves to be stopped.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:16 PM
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21. I think she's got him under her spell. Could be useful.
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:21 PM
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22. Nu-uh.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:26 PM
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23. no- I think people
are being very unfair to all the candidates, especially here on DU-

Which is very disapointing.

We can't expect better from others, if we aren't willing to practice what we preach.


I dispise the slander on all sides.
Even if we win, we're still losers because of it.


Peace~
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:29 PM
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24. A LOT OF MEN think Hillary didn’t accomplish anything
That she is a complete failure, that she wouldn’t have done anything without her husband and that she is a cry baby.

This is a very very sad phenomenon but a very prevalent one among the younger generation of men and women.

I've found that very troubling.
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