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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:53 PM
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kucinich with only 4%
but what a 4% can you imagine what kind of base kucinich has? what kind of intelligent, compassionate people he has? what kind of strong willed people who are staying with the only person who has always been fighting for us and will always fight for us. I know alot of people will mock me and his paltry 4% but I do have to say, his 4% probably put more in stake, read more about politics and understand the dynamics of whats at stake then most other people who fall in with the "double digit" crowd. I'm proud to be a 4% at least the worst most people can do is go "butbutbut he was pro life at one point" while i can point out glaring errors with all three major candidates that have to be glossed over in order for us to drink the kool aid.

GO KOOCH AND THE 4%
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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:55 PM
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1. I'm joining you in the next election. There's only a handful of Democrats
that don't make me :puke:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:59 PM
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2. I am with the 4%
And I'll still vote for him in the CA primaries.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:02 PM
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3. A lot more than 4% would have Dennis Kucinich as their candidate
if we had runoff voting. Many Kucinich supporters are voting for their second choice because of our winner take all election system.
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GeoK Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:03 PM
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4. I am with ya!
I strongly consider myself in that small percentage. I've studied all the candidates and Kucinich hits squarely on every issue in line with my convictions.

Go KOOCH!

:bounce:

:hi:
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AGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:03 PM
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5. good for you!!!
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:05 PM
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6. K&R
nt
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Clintonista2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 02:10 PM
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7. isn't there like a 3% margin of error?
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:32 PM
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9. I think these are results, not a poll
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 03:34 PM by no name no slogan
therefore no MOE

EDITED TO ADD: nevermind, it's a poll.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 04:21 PM
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17. The MSM would have you believe that it is a "Margin of Terror!"
Because they are skeeeered of him.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 03:31 PM
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8. If you speak the truth they will try and silence you. Great interview...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x2718048

http://www.alternet.org/story/74268?page=1


"This interview was recently conducted by Chris Hedges at Rep. Dennis Kucinich's Congressional office in Washington.

Hedges: Have we evolved into a corporate state?

Kucinich: I Look at it as the political equivalent of genetic engineering. That we've taken the gene of corporate America and shot it into both political parties. So they both now are growing with that essence within. So what does that mean? It means oil runs our politics. Corrupt Wall Street interests run our politics. Insurance companies run our politics. Arms manufacturers run our politics. And the public interest is being strangled. Fulfilling the practical aspirations of people should be our mission. How do we measure up to providing people with jobs? It was a Democratic president that made it possible for NAFTA to be passed, causing millions of good-paying manufacturing jobs that help support the middle class. . . .

NAFTA, GAT, the WTO, China Trade, and every other trade agreement that's passed in Congress has been passed with the help of either the leadership of or with the help of the Democratic Party, knowing that each and every one of those agreements was devoid of protections for workers, knowing that if you don't have workers' rights put into a trade agreement then workers here in the United States are going to see their own bargaining position undermined because corporations can move jobs out of the country to places where workers don't have any rights. They don't have the right to organize, the right to collective bargaining, the right to strike. So what I see is that the Democratic Party abandoned working people, and paradoxically they're the ones who hoist the flag of workers every two and four years only to engender excitement, and then to turn around and abandon their constituency. This is now on the level of a practiced ritual...

...So what I've done in my campaign is to advocate a full-employment economy. How do you do that? A new WPA-type program. We'll rebuild America's bridges, water systems, sewer systems, our libraries, our universities, our mass transit systems. And we do that with a program that I introduced legislation in repeated Congresses with the cosponsorship of a Republican from Ohio by the name of Steven LaTourette and the bill, HR 3400, provides for rebuilding America's infrastructure. And I would put millions of people back to work in good-paying jobs. I would put millions more back to work in new energy policies where we would design, engineer, manufacture, install and maintain wind and solar microtechnologies which would be retrofitted into tens of millions of American homes and businesses, driving down our carbon footprint and dramatically reducing our cost of energy. This would be a major development in America to take us away from a condition where America is leading the way towards the destruction of our global climate. I call this part of it the WG: a Works Green Administration..."


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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 07:52 AM
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10. Some of us will refuse to quit asking for a pony
--even if we eventually accept a kitten. How in bleeding hell do you expect to get any of the things that Kucinich advocates if you don't ASK for them?
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 02:57 PM
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11. how do you expect to get what we deserve?
if all we do is ask, and the corps give millions of dollars to "our" representativs?
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 03:28 PM
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13. It's a long process, including working for clean elections n/t
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no name no slogan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 03:37 PM
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14. Be reasonable: demand the impossible
We will never get what we want-- what we NEED-- if we only ask for what we "think" we can get.

Any good negotiator knows you start with an impossible position, and then compromise from there. You don't start with your acceptable compromise, and then work backward.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 03:17 PM
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12. I'll give you Kucinich supporters have been passionate.
However, you are just making yourself feel better about yourself by implying there aren't very high percentages of intelligent, compassionate, and politically knowledgeable people out there that don't support him for good reasons also.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 04:18 PM
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15. He's got my vote as long as he's on the ballot,
and possibly even if he's not, depending on the other choices.
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 04:20 PM
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16. Since he actually HAS NO VOLUNTEER ORGANIZATION in ANY STATE...
...I doubt that many of his supporters have put in the sort of effort you are talking about.
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 04:29 PM
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18. what is your beef with kucinich?
I never see you post except to disparage kucinich and then only with one liners and you never defend yourself. Just who are you and what is your agenda?
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 04:30 PM
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19. It's because I hate America.
And because I'm a fascist.
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 04:31 PM
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20. seriously now c'mon
I'm trying to have a reasnoble discussion.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 04:34 PM
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21. There's something fishy going on at his campaign headquarters
How could they NOT take advantage of all the people who volunteered in 2004?
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 05:24 PM
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22. Because he's not really running for President?
In 2004 he had campaign staff and volunteers in the early primary states. He campaigned. He at least had the basic elements of a campaign in place. This time around he's done fuck all except whine about the lack of attention paid to his non-campaign.
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