How do I say this? Oh, yeah: STFU about John Edwards

[cali]

sheesh. how would you feel if he was your candidate. It's just insensitive to gloat or start picking at him. I'm no JE supporter, but his supporters here are passionate and committed and don't need to see this today. Some of you are acting like crows picking on carrion, and he ain't dead yet.

JE has every right to stay in this race as long as he wants, and he has been an important, even vital voice in this campaign season.

His wife's health is none of your fucking business. That's between JE and Elizabeth.

You want to analyze what NV means to the Edwards campaign? Wait a day or two.

[Clintonista2]

1. Do you ever see the irony in your posts?

[durrrty libby]

8. I doubt it

[cali]

16. Look, it's simple. I supported Dean. I know what it feels like

to have events interrupt your hopes.

[ronnykmarshall]

19. Oh knock it off

Cali is fair and doesn't pull any bullshit.

That's so wrong.

[durrrty libby]

29. That's your opinion not mine

[Clintonista2]

30. Have to respectfully disagree. Nobody on DU is more self righteous than Cali

She'll go and attack somebody, then go start a thread about how attacking this person is wrong, and you're a horrible person if you do it.

On edit: This OP is a perfect example.

[durrrty libby]

31. Exactly. What a load of shit,eh?

[cali]

24. gee, I hate to break this to you

but you're one of the posters whose opinion I value least. Your nasty little picture says it all. Small, very, very small. Yeah, you.

[Clintonista2]

26. Oh no, I was really hoping that Cali would value my opinion

You sure ruined my day :sarcasm:

[bunnies]

2. Well said cali. rec'd. nt

[Kajsa]

3. Thank you, Cali.

You said it all.

:pals:

[madeline_con]

4. Three states in, and they're writing him off.

What a bunch of maroons.

[Yael]

12. Indeed. This is a LONG way from over!

[MADem]

5. Well, if he couldn't move the voters, particularly the union voters, with his message, it IS

problematic for him.

I don't think it's his message, it's his persona. For some odd reason. He comes across as younger than he is, and 'too regional.' That's not a slam, it's an observation.

Of course, his old running mate fucking him last week probably didn't help much. But even at that, he's just NOT cutting it.

For whatever reason--media bias, campaign staff poorly organized, diluted message, who knows?

His wife's health IS an issue, though. He put it in play with that press conference way back when.

All that said, he's just not bringing it. It may be "unfair" and it may be mean to say, but it is the truth. The 'caucusers' and the voters aren't coming around.

He's a good guy, with a good platform. Sometimes it just doesn't 'resonate.'

If he doesn't hit a home run in SC next week, he's fucked. IMO. I don't mean that unkindly, I like his message, I simply can see the writing on the wall unless he can deliver STRONG next week.

[Yael]

7. Thanks cali. Sad it didn't take long for someone to piss on your thread.

^^

I'll go get the paper towels.

[MADem]

22. Well, you replied to the person you are calling a pisser. And I wasn't pissing.

I happen to LIKE JE. I like his message, I like his persona, I like his wife.

But you can like all you want, and that doesn't bring it. VOTES bring it.

But hey, whatever. You're determined to NOT BOTHER TO READ what I wrote, ASSume my perspective, and pass judgment like you're the judge, jury and executioner.


Try reading for COMPREHENSION. Maybe someday you'll learn the difference between a 'bash' and a heartfelt analysis.

Use those paper towels to wipe up that little puddle at YOUR feet, whydoncha?

[mirrera]

39. That is funny...

[cali]

9. I'm not thinking of him so much. I'm thinking how I felt on the night

of the Iowa caucuses 4 years ago.

[ursi]

14. I was thinking of how I felt 4 years ago today too

[MADem]

23. I know what you mean.... nt

[jackson_dem]

28. And some of us young folk are learning it the hard way tonight

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

27. Voters? It's a caucus ...

Some unions, it's not wise to buck the leadership. NV may not indicate how the rank/file think, just how the leadership got schmoozed by the big money.

But I don't know how the unions are in Las Vegas. Some unions, the leadership wouldn't care how a worker voted.

I've been in both types of unions. Some have leadership WAY more scary than any corporate thug.

:hi:

cauci suck.

[MADem]

34. Well, DUH. Who attends the caucus? Why, VOTERS do.

I don't think it was 'bucking the leadership.' In JE's case, I think it was organization. He didn't have the staff to make the inroads into the union bastions. Clinton did--she didn't give up even after she lost the CWU endorsement. She went INTO the neighborhoods, went house to house, and had organizers out and about all day today.

We certainly agree that caucuses or cauci suck, though~! And they do~!
:hi:

[Morereason]

43. Voters that have the time off and availability. It is not an inclusive forum apparently

[MADem]

45. Precisely. It's a disenfranchising exercise for a small minority.

I honestly think that Americans with serious disabilities, who cannot leave their homes or nursing facilities, should sue the parties that hold caucuses (or cauci--cock-eye!!) for their failure to accomodate them under the ADA. Someone who is paralyzed and on a respirator can't vote absentee, like they could in a primary.

As it is, they screw the military, on-duty firemen, policemen, health workers...all of the people we RELY on for basic quality of life. It's idiotic.

[Joe the Revelator]

6. You're too self righteous for your own good.

[Yael]

10. Or two.

^^

More paper towels needed in aisle 7, please!

[cali]

13. nothing self- righteous about it. I remember how I felt

when Howard Dean lost Iowa. It sucked.

[Clintonista2]

17. We finally agree on something

[ursi]

11. Thank you, Cali! You are awesome!

{{{{{{{{BIG HUG!}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

[ShadesOfGrey]

15. Thanks Cali k&r

[stravu9]

18. Thank YOu

it is appreciated

[golddigger]

20. Thank you Cali...

:hi: :kick:

[tritsofme]

21. Politics is a blood sport.

If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.

[David Zephyr]

25. K&R.

Yes!

[Kermitt Gribble]

32. This is the type of Cali post I look forward to reading.

Your posts were always well-thought and rational. It seems, lately, you've been wound a little tight and in attack mode - sometimes warranted, sometimes not.
From an Edwards supporter - Thank you

[krabigirl]

33. Thanks

[SeattleGirl]

35. Thank you, cali

I am an Edwards supporter, but I don't hate Clinton or Barack. I do have a bone or 10 to pick with their supporters around here though. Not all of them; just the ones who act like they're on a playground, sticking their tongues out at the supporters of other candidates, and throwing rocks at them.

I thought we were better than that.

[Inspired]

36. Today you get a big thanks, Cali. n/t

[2rth2pwr]

37. Oooh, oh cali that is so good

....

[mirrera]

38. Thank you...n/t

[Yuugal]

40. K&R

[jgraz]

41. Good one, Cali

:thumbsup:

Now could you pleased resume your standard, infuriating posts? All this agreement is boring.

[midnight]

42. Thank you Cali for you kind remarks toward the support

of Elizabeth Edwards health. She has talked openly and we should respect her. She has the get up and go. Let her use it the way she wants to. Thank you to all out there that keep her in your positive thoughts.

[itsrobert]

44. Thanks Cali

You're a peach.