I just wonder if Obama can take defeat as graciously as he should?

[jasmine621]

This will be his real test. He looked a little shaken and testy. A leader must know how to lose as well as win. This where Clinton has it over most of the candiates. She has faced more adversity than any of the others and to me she is about as gracious as one can be expected to be after facing the shit she has faced the last 20 or so years.

[MethuenProgressive]

1. If he blames this loss on racism, he's done for.

He needs to find a different excuse.

[Inuca]

7. You should be ashamed

for writing this. But based on your other posts, I am afraid you are not.

[ecstatic]

29. When has Obama ever complained about racism (which very well exists)

He is forced to walk a tight rope because of people like you!

[ronnykmarshall]

30. Oh please!

:eyes:

[MethuenProgressive]

57. Obama blames loss on racism:

Obama campaign alleges last-minute negative robo-calls in Nevada


(CNN) — The Obama campaign released a recording Saturday that they said was a last-minute negative robo-call received by a Nevada voter.

The call attacks the Illinois senator and emphasizes his little-used middle name, repeatedly referring to “Barack Hussein Obama.” The Obama campaign posted an mp3 of the call on the Internet. (outside link)

"I'm calling with some important information about Barack Hussein Obama," says the anonymous caller. "Barack Hussein Obama says he doesn't take money from Washington lobbyists or special interest groups, but the record is clear that he does."

The male voice concludes: "You just can't take a chance on Barack Hussein Obama."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/19/obama-campaign-alleges-last-minute-negative-robo-calls-in-nevada/

[Berry Cool]

2. So, what you're saying is, that if either of them is going to be a loser

it should be Hillary, because she will be more gracious at handling it?

:shrug: Just sayin'.

[Bluerthanblue]

15. uhhh

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[bunnies]

3. Did you sleep through NH? nt

[flordehinojos]

4. methinks obama has his derrier stuck up in the air.

there is an underlying arrogant quality 'bout him that i don't particularly like.

[jannyk]

13. you've noticed that too? I find him incredibly arrogant - nt.

[mahina]

27. It's a good idea to take a look at our own impressions and consider

if they are formed by others. I hope you take a look at the videos here and challenge yourself on this.
If you haven't met him, or heard him in person, your info is filtered. Just saying.



http://youtube.com/watch?v=jPtg-gvgWhE&feature=PlayList&p=B03F10C0072F4762&index=9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe751kMBwms
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XB-sNaaaJRU&feature=PlayList&p=B03F10C0072F4762&index=5

[awaysidetraveler]

34. Uppity... humm. Maybe he's upset about all of Hillary's campaign smears? I am.

It's just another one of the reasons I will never vote Hillary into any office.

[FrenchieCat]

17. He's upitty.....or haven't you heard? It happens with the House negro

much more than with the Field hands.

Seems like they get a little book learning in them, some Harvard Education, and get elected to 1 of 100 senate jobs...and then walk around with their head up.......instead of shuffling or tap dancing and saying Yessum.

Next thing you know, he might touch your females....Lordie!

[mahina]

22. Great minds.

[FrenchieCat]

31. well, its fairly obvious....that he should groveling at Ms. Hillary's hem.....

You know, the mistress who's riding to the top on her husband's coattails, and calling her self "first".

[mahina]

43. So I went to a democratic function on Thursday and

listened to Hillary's campaign manager talking about her, and it struck me that her campaign is kind of anti-feminist.

The outstanding female woodworkers I know say, don't call me a woman woodworker, call me a woodworker.
Making a big deal of her gender reads false to me, because if she was really a feminist, she wouldn't even bring it up. The equality I seek for all my sisters is that kind, not this kind of strategic hyping of gender.

Barack doesn't go on and on about being black, he just is an excellent candidate.

Anyway, aloha FC.

[FrenchieCat]

50. and aloha to you too!

:hi:

[flordehinojos]

35. do you know i have great respect for charles rangel, maxine waters, sheilah jackson-lee,

barbara jordan, shirley chilsohm who i would have loved to have seen in the oval office, barbara lee, carrie meeks, and so many other black people who are just human beings, just like you and me. obama, on the other hand, just like the bushit boy who happens to be white, like bubba jeb, who happens to be white, like pope benny, who happens to be white, like doro bush, who happens to be white -- obama has his derrier stuck up in the air. he is an arrogant human being. you have made note of his color. i did not. i made note of his arrogant personality. personalities do not have colors.

your castigation of my comment wouldn't have anything to do with sour grapes, would it?

[aquart]

45. So you ARE blaming racism for his defeat.

Or what would you call that bitter spew?

[mahina]

18. I think they call that uppity.

Of course you and I disagree on this point. If your mind is still open, you might want some information. I hope you have a chance to take a look at these vids on youtube and see if you still believe that.
Aloha.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=jPtg-gvgWhE&feature=PlayList&p=B03F10C0072F4762&index=9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe751kMBwms
http://youtube.com/watch?v=XB-sNaaaJRU&feature=PlayList&p=B03F10C0072F4762&index=5

[Samantha]

5. Hillary Clinton remains the DLC candidate and at some point

liberal Democrats will sit up and take notice of that, despite her gender. So I am not counting ANY candidate out yet.

[aquart]

33. Goodness, what are they waiting for?

[Samantha]

55. They are waiting until she "wins" the election, puts forth her

National Health Care policy, publicizes the mandates, and abolishes Medicare, thus having retired seniors pay for their own health care, if with nothing else, their Social Security income. She's a Republican's dream come true when it comes to entitlements. I don't trust the woman.

In all candor, she has not stated she will eradicate Medicare, but she chronically talks about reforming it, and will not be specific. She has also said Social Security must be addressed, and she is putting everything on the table. Again, she will not be specific. My gut tells me if Hillary is elected, our so-called "entitlement" programs, as the Republicans like to term them, never mind some of us have paid taxes on these "entitlement" programs 30 and 40 years, will become a thing of the past, and the poor among us, who cannot afford health care, will get a rude awakening.

[MADem]

6. Well, he'd better buck up. It's the difference of a single delegate.

I am not near a tv with US coverage, so I'll have to wait or find the images on the net.

His spinmeisters should get to work and point out the closeness of the vote. He should be gentlemanly, calm, poised and anything BUT 'testy.' 'Testy' doesn't cut it (FWIW, Romney has a real 'testy' problem--it's worse than McCain's--he's more of a 'loose cannon' than testy!!).

Clinton does have the advantage when she doesn't prevail, because what you say is true--she does know how to take a massive punch and come back swinging.

[awaysidetraveler]

8. After 16 years of GOP demonification, what on earth makes you think Hillary is a good idea for Dems?

[awaysidetraveler]

9. Hillary represents American denial: denial that lobbying money is corruption, denial about lies, etc

And, of course, denial of a failed marriage.

[awaysidetraveler]

10. The media loves the illusion, and they're playing you for suckers. Her name should be Patsy

Because she's the next GOP fall guy.

[Tarc]

11. failed marriage?

That's a pretty low blow there, is this really what the hillary haters are stooping to now?

[TankLV]

12. oey vey...

they really did say that - sigh...

[awaysidetraveler]

25. And I'm not alone, 16 years of lobbying interests should keep anyone away from her.

[awaysidetraveler]

20. No it's not low, it's simply candid. To tell you the truth, I simply won't vote for her.

[Tarc]

58. Then you don't belong here

[aquart]

44. Maybe we're not letting the GOP make our choices anymore.

And why would a Republican opinion matter to a Democrat? Unless you've been fool enough to buy what they're selling?

[awaysidetraveler]

49. That's exactly the kind of divisive thinking that keeps real change from happening.

[awaysidetraveler]

53. Ignoring what almost half of America thinks is divisive: the GOP need our guidance.

Of course they matter, this war in Iraq shows how much they matter. If we leave
them at the reigns, they'll kill God only knows how many more people. That's
why they matter.

[jackson_dem]

14. He'll take today just fine. It wasn't a bad defeat and SC is next week

[ursi]

16. the man carries himself with alot of dignity, I'm sure he will be fine so don't worry

[book_worm]

19. He'll be fine. Remember it was Hillary who had to break down and cry to get back in the race

in NH.

[mahina]

21. Losing, as in having equal number of delegates?

Hmmm. He is tired, for sure, I'm sure they all are.

[tabatha]

23. GOOD GRIEF.

He was extremely gracious when losing in New Hampshire - don't you remember.
He asked his audience to applaud Hillary.

I dislike it when Dems are like Repubs and completely ignore facts, previous behavior and condemn preemptively.
I dislike preemption in any form.

[Amerigo Vespucci]

24. I'll take mine buttered with a little salt, please.

:popcorn:

[Avalux]

26. This thing is far from over. Reading a bit much into Obama's appaerance?

They are all tired and I have seen nothing out of Obama that would indicate he'd be a poor loser. :hi:

[ginchinchili]

28. Yeah, she just cries.

[ronnykmarshall]

32. fuck you

[annie1]

37. 2nd. what is wrong with some of his supporters. they're so hateful.

[Colobo]

38. Gini is a former Bidenite, and she's not supporting Obama, I think.

[ronnykmarshall]

41. Then poor Biden for having that ass for a supporter.

[ronnykmarshall]

39. Don't judge his supporters by THAT.

[ShortnFiery]

40. No, it's HRC's supporters who often behave in a cut-throat, morally depraved manner.

I guess they have to make up for the fact that HRC and her surrogates HAVE NO ELVIS, i.e., devoid of self-reflection, wit and humor.

Well, what would you expect from such Political Mercenaries? Honor? Integrity? Straightforwardness? Hell no!

This is 2008 where CRAP IS KING and on our M$M 24/7. :crazy:

[ShortnFiery]

46. No, Bill gets to play "The Evita Role" the next time there's a mere hint of a potential loss.

;) :hi:

[ShortnFiery]

36. At least I'm sure he's not near as selfish as Hill-Evita, so he won't CRY at the mere rumor that he

may lose one race in the future.

You learned well from Uncle KKKarl, didn't you? = Take the opponent's STRONGEST gift (ability for thoughtful reflection) and *beat them up* with it?!?

That's as transparent as hell! :grr:

[indimuse]

42. Did Obama leave Nevada before results were final...

and did he THANK ALL the people that showed uo for him>>>?

[alteredstate]

47. Too bad Bill has lost the ability to be gracious.

[ShortnFiery]

48. Yes, that poor dear "perpetual damsel in distress."

:crazy:

[ElizabethDC]

51. I think he absolutely can

it's some of his supporters that I worry about . . .

[Tulkas]

52. Oh Come On !!!

She loses Iowa and Bill goes on a tear, attacking New Hampshire for being to soon after Iowa. among other things


She may look graceful because she has a former president for an attack dog.

[bigwillq]

54. I thought he did fine in New Hampshire

Made a pretty good speech too.

[thoughtcrime1984]

56. He got more delegates apparently

So did he really lose?