Do any of you Obamits care enough about AMERICA to sign a letter to Harry Reid stopping immunity

[kelligesq]

for telcos and stopping rewarding the telcos for breaking the law by illegally spying on Americans?

Let's see whether it's just one person whose important to you or whether its
really America's future that you care about.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4179014&mesg_id=4179014



HERE'S LINK TO SEND HARRY REID LETTER ON NO IMMUNITY FOR TELCOS

https://secure.aclu.org/site/SPageServer?pagename=Reid_FISA_petition3&s_s=AO&JServSessionIdr003=nx1rxffmb4.app20a

[kelligesq]

1. well I guess we have an answer: the country isnt important, only Obama is, right?

:cry:

[Renew Deal]

2. First, don't insult those you're asking to support you.

2nd, it's the middle of the night. Most normal people are sleeping. Then there's us. :boring:

[kelligesq]

4. not supportiing me-you'r trying to get Harry Reid & Co. to do the right thing 4 us, 4 Constitution

geezus, if we cant save America and the Constituion in THIS election year,
make them listen to us instead of the corporate lobbyists..this country is
finished.

It's almost finished anyway. Thye're just putting the final touches on denying us all our Consitutional rights, like the right to privacy.

[Nailzberg]

3. Maybe we didn't feel like replying.

Doesn't mean we didn't look at your link.

I've contacted Obama and Durbin already, didn't need to be prompted.

[kelligesq]

5. good.

:kick:

[lapfog_1]

13. How did you come to this conclusion...

you post at 11:00PST and you expect hundreds of people to respond?

It's now almost 3am east coast, how many Obamites (whatever those are) are up? (Hey, I'm only up because I can't sleep much anymore)

More importantly, why do you expect anyone to respond when you start out insulting them...

Or was this just an exercise in more "gotcha" crap from other campaigns.

1. create a post that both begs for help for good democratic causes, but begs from a group that it also insults.
2. post it late at night.
3. wait 5 minutes and post "See... Obama people are NOT good democrats because they only care about their candidate!"

So was this a late night drive by?

You can take that crap elsewhere...

I don't have to justify to you or any other Clinton supporter that I belong to the Democratic party.
Unless you WANT me gone. In which case...

[kelligesq]

15. Edwards supporter here, but that's beside the fact, this is for all of us &

and it doesnt matter who you support,

[lapfog_1]

20. Well, why don't you check in at the home base and

see if drive by insults to Obama supporters is what John Edwards wants?

I don't see this from Edwards supporters EVER. The most that I see is that they might pile on when a Hillary Supporter flings a new bit of monkey poo into the mix. But even then, if the turd is too big and smelly, they usually DEFEND Obama... or don't say anything at all. Watch and learn.

I want Edwards to win SC... even if it means Obama loses... why? Because I want John to stay in... if he gets crushed again, well... he will have to rethink things. I like John.

I think Obama would make a better President. John would make a very good President.

So why the drive by on Obama? Why the insults?

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[kelligesq]

9. Do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

disgusting

[book_worm]

11. read what you wrote and tell me that you didn't mean to insult Obama supporters

and then you can lecture.

[LittleClarkie]

12. Don't mind me... just sitting here warming myself by the flamewar

It's -2 here.

[Mythsaje]

21. Can I ask you why you're looking for trouble?

As a fellow Edwards supporter, I have to say that this is a terrible, demeaning tactic and an all around bad idea.

[LittleClarkie]

23. Cheers

Appreciated. I mean really, what the heck.

[CyberPieHole]

22. ^^^TYPICAL OBAMABOT^^^

:eyes:

[LittleClarkie]

7. If you want lots of responses, maybe try posting during the day

and not in the middle of the night.

[lapfog_1]

8. Why direct this at Obama supporters.

and why, if you actually hope that some will sign it, do you use an insult to address Obama supporters?

Btw, I signed a long time ago. And Wexler's petition for the case for impeachment investigations, and the Kucinich petition as well. And many others, and private emails to my Senators, Boxer and (grrr) Feinstein.

And one person IS important to me precisely because I care about America's future. However, I have to admit, the more I see John Edwards talk, the better I like him (no longer a single speech about two americas)... and if he had a prayer in hell of becoming President, it wouldn't bother me to see Kucinich either. My original choices (Gore then Biden) having dropped by the wayside.

So, while I do support Obama, and I think he'd make a transformational President, if Edwards or Kucinich is our nominee, that will be OK... what about Hillary??? if she is the nominee, I just don't know. From the vitriolic personal attacks on me by her supporters and her campaign tactics since this started in earnest... well, I was never going to volunteer or anything. But now I'm thinking "Would 4 years of McCain be sooo bad?" I mean, we've survived 7 years of the chimp. And if everything is a disaster right now anyway... war, economy, broken government, environment... why have the Democrats take the blame??? (and you know we will be blamed if any Dem is in office when all this shit comes home to roost, we'll be blamed for "losing" the war, we'll be blamed for the recession / depression that is just around the corner, we'll be blamed when the Arctic Ice sheet is gone by the end of the summer every year, and we'll be blamed when gasoline goes to $7/gallon or more... oh yes, we'll be blamed!)

[LittleClarkie]

10. Because the point was to berate Obama supporters as opposed to encouraging support

.

[kelligesq]

17. No. That's not the point. The point is to care about the Constitution & the country &

to try to restore America. And they're not doing it in DC unless we scream
and yell and holler and kick. And even then they ignore us who sent them there.

Harry is trying to push this through quick.

Last hearing Feingold was vocally opposed to it.

Of course Feinstein wanted to give immunity AND money to ATT.

[MadBadger]

18. Then why single out Obama supporters and question in big letters if we gave a damn about AMERICA?

Not to mention your other Bullshit posts today about Obama.

[lapfog_1]

19. Yeah, I had that figured even before this little shit

jumped in with the "see, nobody answered me, so I guess all you care about is Obama and NOT the Democrats"

But you know what... I'm just not in a mood anymore to take crap from these people.

In 2004 I donated nearly $4000 to various Democratic candidates. And another $2000 in 2006. I'm on Keith Ellison's "gold level" supporter list. And I've never been anywhere near his district.

I don't need this "drive by" gotcha crap from anyone here.

To the OP...

You want to support Hillary. Great. Have at it.
I don't like her record or her tactics in this campaign.
I don't like what I've seen from a few Obama supporters here either... and I've jumped all over their posts when I felt they were out of line.

But I'm real tired of the bullshit excuses and lame attempts to paint Obama as this or that, up to and including some crap opinion piece posted here yesterday (Wed) from World Net Daily describing Obama as "ugly, mean, and nasty" only to have a bunch of Hillary supporters DEFEND this crap.

Go ahead, score your cheap smears and claim you didn't or Hillary or Bill didn't ever lie about this or that and when we complain about the dirty tactics you just say "Grow up, that's politics, Obama will get it worse from Republicans"... BULLSHIT. Democrats are better than republicans, or at least we ought to be. If we have to resort to smears, distortions, and lies AND voter suppression to win a primary, maybe it's not worth it.

But I'm real tired of it. Want to win now? Fine. But you are losing me and all the other non-Hillary supporters in the fall.


I've even seen one poster with a avatar that reads "I voted... Present". I'm sure that he or she will have a little band-aid to wear to the next Clinton rally or Democratic convention with that logo on it.

Just good clean fun. :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

Can you remember the anger you felt when the Repukes pulled that crap with Kerry and the purple hearts???

That's how anyone for Obama feels when you use cheap insults like that.

I don't like Hillary. But I don't go around with an avatar or sig line of a dead Vince Foster with a bullet hole through his head! Or a purple dress with a white stain! Or a "I pardoned Marc Rich" or "I have lots of experience in the White House... I already fired a couple of people for being in the way...err for screwing up my travel plans!" or ... well, you see where this is going. It's not nice. It's not fair. And, more to the point, none of it is applicable to being President. Just like Obama voting Present because NARAL asked him to.

So keep it up... you might even win the nomination... but you'll need us this fall.

[andyrowe]

14. I'm down.

I hope my candidate is as well.

[MadBadger]

16. What the hell is your deal tonight?

[Webster Green]

24. What are you, fucking four years old?

You sure post a lot of idiotic shit on this board.

[kelligesq]

25. It's sad that you young people have only one focus-arguing & visciousnes, a game but

no realization of what desperate condition this country is in.

Anything about Obama you're all out there with snarky nasty comments,

Anything for America, who cares? is the attitude.

Like others here, trying to get your attention to help the country and the dems
and stop the current administration who is still doing their dirty deeds and scuttling the Constitution,

is useless.

Really sad.

continue attacking all and any. I'm finished with any discourse with any of you.
waste of time and typing space.