Where Has Bill Clinton Been The Last 8 Years?

[THUNDER HANDS]

Where the hell has this red-faced, angry, combative Bill Clinton been for the last eight years?

Did Bill get angry and demand that wrongs be righted after the Florida miscount? After Bush v. Gore? After Bush, Cheney, and Rice blew off his concerns about terrorism for 8 months? After Bush's unpreparedness for, inadequate and incomplete response to, and unconscionable exploitation of 9/11? After the unfair media and GOP attacks on Al Gore, Howard Dean, and John Kerry? After Katrina? Plame? The US Attorneys? The "lost" emails? The countless other mistakes and malfeasances of the Bush administration?

Sorry, Bill -- by remaining silent in the face of so many grave catastrophes, you forfeited your right to attack Obama...



http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/23/165159/196/485/441912

:popcorn:

[Rick Myers]

1. I have to agree

For 8 years he was quiet, hanging out with Poppy Bush. His attitude now makes him seem petty...

[Blarch]

2. I think he is about to...

turn in his party badge ...

No democrat would ever praise Rove.

Praise for Rove doesn't belong in the party or on the DU

[bluestateguy]

3. I've always felt the Clinton Adm. should have done more to stop the theft of Florida in 2000

Like sending the Justice Department boys down to Florida to stop Katherine Harris and Jeb Bush's use of the state's machinery to steal the election. Florida is covered under the VRA, and the Justice Department should have immediately intervened.

[KittyWampus]

8. Clinton's crony McCauliffe did NOTHING to counter the GOP's systemic Election Fraud

and why would the Clintons want Gore or Kerry to be POTUS?

They'd have gotten in the way of Hillary getting elected in 08.

[KittyWampus]

4. Magic Rat, forget the popcorn. Let's have a drink!

:beer:

[THUNDER HANDS]

15. heh

:beer:

[Proud2BAmurkin]

5. This should answer your question

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/30/health/main614849.shtml

[Zueda]

11. HTTP 404 - File not found

[no name no slogan]

18. That explains EVERYTHING

[Proud2BAmurkin]

25. fixed

[Zueda]

33. Yep good ol Bill. Quick to jump on 'Disaster Capitalism' opportunities.

Bush Jr. has done a lot for this cause as well.

[suston96]

6. How's about a coronary bypass (quadruple?) and then his tsunami megamoney raising with Bush41?

That enough for you? How about the Bush-Clinton Katrina Fund raising?

I'll keep looking.

[THUNDER HANDS]

12. his bypass surgery

would not prevent him from writing editorials or speaking out to the press. Nobody was asking him to run marathons.

And the Katrina funraising, how long did that take over the past 8 years?

[durrrty libby]

16. Don't forget this

www.mycommitment.org


Raising billions for the ill and less fortunate around the world


The only people mad at Bill are Obama supporters. That means Bill is doing a great job

[THUNDER HANDS]

24. you're still not answering the question, of course

how long would it take to write an editorial? Apparently the guy has enough time to do the crossword puzzle every morning.

[indimuse]

27. agreed!

where was michelle..better question??

[ccpup]

35. it's f*cking disgusting is what it is

Obama Supporters bitching over Bill helping to bring comfort and affordable medicine to millions around the World suffering from AIDS.

Just un-f*cking-believable.

:puke:

[durrrty libby]

41. They're the stuff I wiped off my sneaker this morning

[Zueda]

28. Have you heard of disaster capitalism?

Take a look what's going on over there in tsunami struck indonesia. Same thing that's happeing in New Orleans only 10x worst. You really think anything the Bush's are involved in are charitable and not profitable?

[karynnj]

38. In 2000?

Also before that surgery, why put out his book, in all its nearly 1000 pages, in July 2004. Would Kerry even thing of putting out a book on election theft or BCCI and why others should have let it go forward or fighting the Contras in July 2008? That is the equivalent of what Bill Clinton did, though worse as he does get far more attention than Kerry - and people wanted to here his excuses for Monica.

[Fresh_Start]

7. That is really a great question.

but it does not mean he forfeits his right to question Obama.

[ccpup]

19. my Post #14

links to his work getting cheap drug prices for those affected by AIDS. may not please the partisans who wanted him to rip into Bush v. Gore or whatever the OP was bellyaching about, but millions and millions of people have Bill to thank for longer lives and a more comfortable death

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4185170&mesg_id=4185294

[Fresh_Start]

30. Please understand I know that President Clinton

has done many good things since he's been out of office. He's been terrific in those efforts.

But I guess, given the absolute disaster in our government, we could have use Bill the knife working on the idiots on the other side to whittle them down to size. He should have been trying to neuter the opposition in the opposition party and not just the opposition in the primary.

I'm a fan of President Clinton.
Senator Clinton is not my first choice: I'm supporting the unexciting third wheel in the election.

[ccpup]

34. I'm just beyond disgusted right now, to be honest.

A partner of mine passed away from AIDS with several more friends following soon thereafter. That President Clinton directed his considerable cache, determination and energy to help alleviate the suffering of people who had been forgotten by their Governments is immediately and undoubtedly commendable.

But not for the tunnel-visioned Neanderthals on DU. Screw those suffering AIDS victims in Third World Countries. It's all about me, me, me, me, me! The Constitution! Bush v. Gore! blah blah blah blah blah

Until they've seen someone cough up blood while their bowels let loose with green diarrhea that splashes your feet all the while holding them while they cry because their body is not their own and they're staring Death in the face, you simply cannot appreciate enough what Bill Clinton -- and every other brave Soul who's giving what time or talents or money they can -- is doing to alleviate the suffering of so many.

DU is one f*cked up place.

[THUNDER HANDS]

39. hey

Nobody's saying his work on AIDS wasn't worthy or good, and I applaud him for that. But he's smart enough, and skilled enough, to balance his work on AIDS and Katrina relief with kicking a little Bush ass, since the majority of Bush's sins occurred BEFORE Katrina hit.

Clinton should have been as forceful with Bush as he has been with Obama. That's the point.

[ccpup]

42. you did not applaud him for that, Magic Rat

although I appreciate the olive branch, your Posts have made me quite literally sick to my stomach. And I do mean that in an absolute literal sense.

I fear we've become so myopically centered on America and the Presidential Primaries that we forget there's a whole World of suffering that might be -- MIGHT BE -- more important to us, as a human race, in the long run.

If I had a choice, I'd rather President Clinton bring comfort and affordable drugs to people who have REAL problems than satiate your thirst for revenge by kicking Bush's ass.

But that's just me.

Later.

[THUNDER HANDS]

46. I don't understand why you think he can only do one or the other

It's not an either-or proposition. Jimmy Carter, who's arguably done more for human rights than any ex president ever, has spoken out more forcefully against Bush than Clinton has - and did his charity work at the same time.

[durrrty libby]

52. "Clinton should have been as forceful with Bush " That is beyond silly

Bill had to turn over the keys to the WH to bush

People would have gone ape shit if he started editorializing from the sidelines

Do you Obamamites ever listen to how bizarre you sound?

[THUNDER HANDS]

53. so what you're saying is

better to attack a guy for running against his wife, than attack a guy who set out to destroy everything he worked for while he was in office for 8 years.

[durrrty libby]

54. God you people are tedious. Bill is campaigning for Hillary

Don't like it? Oh well

[THUNDER HANDS]

56. so that he gets upset about

someone threatens their potential grip on power = attack with everything you got.
someone threatens the future of the nation = eh, it would be beneath him to complain.

[durrrty libby]

45. I'm very very sorry for you and your deceased partner

I've taken care of people dying of AIDS and it is beyond heartbreaking for

the patient and loved ones:hug:

[laugle]

59. 2 of my cousins both in their 20's died from Aids.

It is indeed a noble effort that Clinton has established a foundation to help people all over the world with this affliction!

Some people would not be happy with him if he found a cure for cancer, it really is disgusting........

Hill and Bill are two good people who care about others and they do not deserve this kind of ridicule........

[Fresh_Start]

48. I'm sorry for your loss

please take care of yourself

I did not mean to diminish the importance of President Clinton's other works.

[Double T]

9. If YOU think the RW-MSM was going to give HIM their microphone,..........

guess again. Looks to me like the MSM is out to smear the Clintons again. After 8 years of bushco, ANYONE with a pea brain would be MAD AS HELL!

[Lucinda]

10. Here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_J._Clinton_Foundation
http://www.clintonglobalinitiative.org/

[Scriptor Ignotus]

13. good point

it would have been nice to have the Big Dog taking on Bush and Co instead of Barack Obama.

[ccpup]

21. better he's taking on affordable drug prices for those dealing with AIDS

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4185170&mesg_id=4185294

[ccpup]

14. bullshit

Clinton brokers landmark Aids deal

Clinton said the deal would bring hope to millions of people
Four companies that produce generic Aids drugs have agreed to reduce the cost of the drugs for millions of people in developing countries under a deal brokered by former US President Bill Clinton.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3209741.stm

President Bill Clinton launched the Clinton Global Initiative (CGI) in 2005 as a non-partisan catalyst for action, bringing together a community of global leaders to devise and implement innovative solutions to some of the world’s most pressing challenges.

As a non-profit, 501(c)(3) endeavor of the William J. Clinton Foundation, CGI draws strength from a highly diverse membership base that represents the full spectrum of political, ideological, religious, ethnic, and geographic backgrounds. Members include current and former heads of state, top business executives, preeminent scholars, and representatives of key non-governmental organizations working together for a common cause.

The defining characteristics of the Clinton Global Initiative are its action-oriented nature and its track record of converting pioneering ideas into viable solutions with tangible results. CGI members develop ‘commitments to action’, focusing on practical, effective problem-solving measures that can be taken now. Member commitments are comprehensive, formal plans of action with timetables for evaluating progress. They are developed within one or more CGI areas of focus, which change annually to address the most imperative global issues requiring attention. We have designated education, energy & climate change, global health, and poverty alleviation as the areas of focus for 2007.

http://www.clintonglobalinitiative.org/NETCOMMUNITY/Page.aspx?pid=1399&srcid=-2

Bill Clinton on Treating AIDS in Developing Countries

Former President Clinton announces new agreements to lower prices of AIDS tests and drugs in New York, Jan. 12, 2006. Reuters

Morning Edition, January 13, 2006 · Steve Inskeep talks with former President Bill Clinton about his foundation's work to lower the cost of AIDS treatments in developing countries. Thursday, the Clinton Foundation announced it had negotiated cheaper long-term drugs and faster AIDS tests.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5155888

[THUNDER HANDS]

22. was he doing that

before or after he was advising that ports deal with Dubai, while his wife was criticizing it? and the millions he was making on his speaking tours.

and all the opportunities he had to speak out against Bush, but chose not to.

[ccpup]

23. you're unbelievable!

lower drug prices for those suffering from AIDS or speaking out against Bush. you're just fucking unbelievable.

[THUNDER HANDS]

29. doing both is now impossible?

he was silent while the world and the constitution was being raped.

[alstephenson]

43. Yep, blame it all on the Clenis!!!

Sheesh.

[dionysus]

37. he could have done both, uh you do know that right?

he had time to make millions for himself, too.

[MyNameGoesHere]

40. My guess is he was trying to make a ton

of money and bitter as hell after the raping he got from the RW. But who knows. Sort of like Al Gore going into recluse for so long. Oh you did not mention that did you. Sorry. Now to the most repugnant remark in your "speech" about him not having a right to "actively" campaign for his wife? Why not just say STFU Bill? it's almost as bad.

Cheers.

[leftynyc]

49. You have thoroughly discredited yourself

in this thread. You sound petty and uninformed. Good thing I don't judge candidates by their supporters.

[THUNDER HANDS]

55. well, i'm sorry you feel that way

[HeraldSquare212]

17. On Jeffrey Epstein's airplane. nt

[Occam Bandage]

20. Don't bring up a non-response to Katrina; that's racist, apparently.

[sandnsea]

26. "You know, everybody makes mistakes"

"I thought the White House did the right thing in just saying 'we probably shouldn't have said that,' " Clinton told CNN's Larry King in a phone interview Tuesday evening.

"You know, everybody makes mistakes when they are president," Clinton said. "I mean, you can't make as many calls as you have to make without messing up once in awhile. The thing we ought to be focused on is what is the right thing to do now. That's what I think."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/07/23/clinton.iraq.sotu

Now known to be the biggest whopper the Bushies told, and Clinton dismisses it with "everybody makes mistakes".

And then has the gaul to pretend he was opposing the war.

[Jack Bone]

31. Clinton: Democrats "were missing in action"

I saw this a few days ago, and found it ironic and rather troubling. It's a speech Bill gave to the DLC back in 2002.

Click the link below for the full speech. Here's Salon's writing in the lead-in.

Dec 6, 2002 | Former President Clinton minced no words in a speech he delivered Tuesday at NYU dissecting his party's serious losses in the midterm elections. "Democrats have to have ideas to win," he said. "We were missing in action in national security and we had no positive plan for America's domestic future." To get the party back on its feet, he says, hard changes need to be made -- but moving to the left is not one of them.

Link

http://dir.salon.com/story/politics/feature/2002/12/06/clinton/

[Barack_America]

32. Making money in Dubai...

Owning one of the global funds that Hillary condemned during the Nevada debate.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB120097424021905843.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Ahhh, you've got to love those, "it's not illegal unless they tell you it is" Clintons!

[suston96]

36. Here is some free advice - Google is your friend.

Use it before you start such ill-conceived and meritless topics as this one.

[book_worm]

44. palling around with Poppy?

[RichGirl]

47. You've got to be kidding.

He's been all over the world fighting AIDS and poverty. He just released a book called "Giving". There are more important and productive things to do than get angry over our sleazy government and politics.

Uh...what have you been doing the last eight years???

[THUNDER HANDS]

51. wow

it certainly sounds like people are saying what Bush has done the past 8 years is nothing to really get upset about.

Maybe it's just me.

[Cha]

50. Schmoozing with bushes...gathering monies for

his wife's presidential asspirations..so he could get himself back in our whitehouse.

[LanternWaste]

57. I imagine there'sa line item list

I imagine there's a line item list of all the things he should have been doing for the past eight years, yes?

I also imagine that when one criticizes the inaction of another, he'd better damned well be ready to illustrate how much more he himself has done (but I'm sure there's a perfectly good reason why that's simply not applicable in this case...).

[KoKo]

58. Suckin' it up with the Bushies, making deals with the Globalists and lying low...like

'Brer Rabbit."

[Nimrod2005]

60. Hanging out with the Bushes!