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lldu Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:37 PM
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If elected, will Obama/Hillary pursue Bush* and Co. or.....
say "Lets look towards the future, not the past."

Whoever gets elected should make punishing Bush* and Co. a main campaign point.
Reversing all the damage Bush* and Co has done to America AND Americans would also be a nice point to campaign on.

Restoring the Rule of Law would be nice, too.

DO you think either Obama or Hillary will do this?
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:39 PM
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1. No
He did a good job for his masters, why would his masters want their new puppet to punish the old puppet?
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:42 PM
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2. Not a snowball's chance in hell.
They would have to take down the entire Dem. leadership, as well. All are complicit in torture.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:43 PM
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3. No
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 01:44 PM by Uben
That task falls upon our legislative and judicial branches, not the executive.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:44 PM
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6. The answer is still no,
but Justice is the executive branch.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:43 PM
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4. I think there is a lot of incentive NOT to.
I believe they think it would mean they could be pursued by the administration that follows them.

So, No.

Like it or not, Bush and Co. get a free pass.
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Rageneau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:44 PM
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5. Obama wants to make nice-nice. Hillary wants revenge.
I'm with Hillary. I want all these GOP crooks to be brought to justice, with the light of truth illuminating every nook and cranny of their black souls.

I doubt Obama shares my thirst for justice.

But I KNOW Hillary does. If you want the BFEE brought to justice (or as close as we can get) the ONLY choice is Hillary.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:08 PM
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13. Kinda like Bill brought all the Iran-Contra players to justice
Oh wait, he didn't. Many of those thugs went on to important positions in the BFEE.

Yet you trust Hillary to go after the BFEE. :eyes:
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:31 PM
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18. Iran-Contra was not directed at them.
Besides, Bill C. did not follow Reagan. It's not a question of trust. I don't know she will do it or to what degree if she does. It is just an educated guess.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:09 PM
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21. What has she done up to now to make you believe that?
Voting for Bush's war?
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:20 PM
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24. I didn't say I believed it. I said it was an educated guess...
...based on her reputation for ruthlessness.
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enid602 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:35 PM
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19. Hill
I'll vote for Hillary just to see her let lose on Bushco. 9/11, Sibel Edmonds, Gannon, Depleted Uranium, Fallujah/White Phosphorus, she'll have fun!!!
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:26 PM
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25. She'll only go after those things if they do well in focus groups. nt
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:45 PM
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7. it would be a waste of time and money. nt
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:48 PM
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8. What do you mean by going after Bush?? If you mean are they
going to waste time trying to pursue Bush after he leaves
office---they hopefully will not waste precious time.

They are going to so busy trying to clean up his mess
and get this ship turned around--they will have time
for little else.

Once there is an election--we must move on to the agenda
of the new President.

It is the Congress who provides oversight and can do anything
about Bush. I would say the Congress has decided nothing
is going to be done. They do not see it as woth the fight
and tell me one Congressmen or Senator who is going to risk
losing his/her seat. Nada We just might be happier looking
to future. Just a thought.
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lldu Donating Member (272 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:50 PM
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9. Going After
Try him for any illegalities he committed while in office. Tar and feather his ass.
You know, give him a fair trial and then punish him because he is guilty of so many illegalities. Wouldn't hurt to throw in a few of his fellow cronies too.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 01:54 PM
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10. I doubt they will campaign on it.
My gut feeling is that HC is sufficiently angry at the far right that she would want some kind of vengence and want to make an example of them. I don't know what O. thinks.

It is unfortunate that the traditional punishment for treason is no longer available: hanging, but not until dead, followed by disembowling, followed by beheading.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:04 PM
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11. Why do you think the establishment is pushing their candidacy's down our throats?
Big Dog already looked past the big bush's treason. That is the promise of reaching across the isle and cooperating with the devil on the other side. WE don't need bi-partisanship and healing we need

Investigation's

Indictment's

Trials

Convictions

and

prison terms



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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:15 PM
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16. The Establishment is pushing Obama. full throttle.
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blues90 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:06 PM
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12.  I seriously doubt it , not a chance .
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ProgressIn2008 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:13 PM
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14. No... establishment candidates who let other powerful elite operate above the law
That's how it works. There can be no healing until there is accountability. We have researched for years now how this admin has elements of 21st century fascism, for god's sake, and they get a pass? This is not justice, change, or hope.

Honestly, I get the sinking feeling that Americans want to just "feel good about themselves again" and then just shrug and forget about it.

Without accountability, without justice, any "feeling good" is empty theater.
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bidenista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:14 PM
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15. i wonder
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 02:19 PM by bidenista




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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 02:18 PM
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17. I fear they will let him slide.
This has been my worry all along. Now especially with all this talk about "past" and "future," it seems to be a setup for "healing the nation" and "moving forward" ala Jerry Ford. I've seen this movie before.
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Mark Twain Girl Donating Member (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:00 PM
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20. I would have to answer no. We'll be told to get over it.
I think a whitewash will occur. I've been thinking a lot about media consolidation lately, and I think this is another face of the same beast: no one who ever gets any power will ever have an interest in addressing root causes. Because you don't get that much power in the first place, if you're really going to attack root causes. Most won't even name the root causes.

So, no.
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:14 PM
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22. Nope
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 03:15 PM
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23. I can only hope that whomever wins will bring them to justice
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ProgressIn2008 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:37 PM
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26. Kick for a good question.
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 04:55 PM
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27. NO.
obama says bush's deeds are not 'grave' enough to pursue justice. :puke:
and Clinton's husband thinks Poppy is a swell guy. :puke:

let's just put this fantasy behind us. will never happen with those two. NEVER.
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