Bird's-Eye Photo Of Same Instant Hillary/Kennedy Shook Hands. Obama WAS turning to talk to Claire

[KittyWampus]

Thanks to Connie Coreleone for finding the pix.

For your viewing pleasure:



Now, don't all the Hillary supporters who tried to ride this into the ground feel silly?

[MNDemNY]

1. I will not be convinced until I've seen the infra-red footage.

[Renew Deal]

18. I'd prefer night vision

B-)

[SoxFan]

41. Audio tape analysis

Maybe a police officer left his mic open. Obama could have been shouting at the grassy knoll, after all.

[C_U_L8R]

72. waterboard them all

mukasey sez it's okay

[neutron]

75. You mean "doctoring" the pix

Connie's a talented girl.

[Texas_Kat]

2. This one's better

We can see the look on his face more closely.

[KittyWampus]

11. OBAMA'S look? Check out Ted. He looks likes he's waiting for his assassin to whack Hillary...

Guess you haven't ever had your face frozen in a photo.

[FrenchieCat]

12. He is not allowed to look at her either?

Why is that? Is that the Harold Ford rule or something? :shrug:

[Texas_Kat]

21. Teddy's probably telling him to play nice

Obama's not having any of it. "Looking beyond" -- nope. Looking right at her.

[FrenchieCat]

31. What else do you think Teddy is "probably" telling him.........

and what else is Obama "probably" not having?

This is really unbelievable.

Mandigo male menacing the poor white lil' lady!

[karynnj]

73. Nice couple of pictures

McCain and HRC mirror each other so well in that photo, yet she looks like she wants to destroy Webb. Neither is likely a true picture of the relationships.

[mod mom]

16. Obama's looking beyond HRC.

[JackORoses]

22. from that angle you can't even tell where he is looking

of course in your Hilliocentric Universe, everyone is looking at her

[kirby]

37. WHO THE FUCK CARES!!! n/t

[Arkansas Granny]

42. No one will care in a few days when the media has given us

something else to talk about, and believe me, they will and it will be some other crap just as silly as this. This whole campaign is being boiled down to petty squabbles egged on by the media. If the issues were reported and positions explained, we would all be better served. Instead, the media is serving Barack and Hillary up to us the same way they do Britney, Paris, Lindsay, etc.

[kirby]

Amen!

It truly is sad that our political process, especially as reported by the mainstream media, is just like watching E! Gossip show or Entertainment Tonight.

If they want all the sensationalist theatrics, couldn't they at least sell it as:

Candidate X puts the smack down on Candidate Y's health care plan. And bicker over whose plan will be more effective, etc.

[yardwork]

58. I agree! The best thing to do is ignore this. It's just silly.

The media loves to start fights between Democrats. For once, let's not follow along like lemmings, m'kay?

[Metric System]

3. I thought he was turning to given them privacy? Obama camp really should get their story straight

[sandnsea]

7. Can't do that and talk to someone else

at the same time?

This is the stupidest stupidest stupidest controversy ever.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

10. Clinton camp should stop being morans who have to have everything spelled out to them.

*sigh* He wanted to give the 2 Senators a moment of privacy, so he turned to address a question by McCaskill.

It's called multi-tasking. Maybe you're not capable of it, but most people with an IQ above 50 are.

[Metric System]

40. "He wanted to give the 2 Senators a moment of privacy, so he turned to address a question by

McCaskill."

That doesn't really make sense. I can see you arguing that he wanted to give them privacy so he turned to talk to McCaskill, but you're saying that it was she who engaged him first. If he was addressing a question by McCaskill then the reason he turned was to answer her, but not to give Hillary and Kennedy privacy.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

45. Against my better judgement, I'm going to attempt this again

Imagine that you are at a crowded event. You are standing next to a colleague. Another colleague approaches. You have reason to believe there may be some awkwardness between the two of them, based on something that transpired earlier that also involves you. She is obviously approaching your companion, not you. You are sort of an honored guest there so many people are vying for your attention. You can choose to turn and address one particular person behind you who has been trying to get your attention OR you can let that person wait while possibly exascerbating an already awkward situation between your two colleagues. You choose the former option.

You are then excoriated by slavering media pundits and morons on message boards who can't fathom that there can be more than one thing going on at a time. Yet these same morons believe themselves infinitely capable of performing complex psychoanalyses on snapshots.

[KittyWampus]

13. They're not mutually exclusive. I suppose you can ignore the pix. Or do you claim it's photoshopped?

[MADem]

19. CNN had the play by play. He stood there, turned away, and was staring off into the distance.

Claire jumped in and saved him from looking like a total putz.

Link downthread at seventeen.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

4. But...but...he turned to talk to McCaskill with a really SNOTTY ATTITUDE!!1! HE WAS SULLEN!!!1!1

And uppity too. :sarcasm:

[FrenchieCat]

15. He should have had his eyes pointed to the floor! You know!

[Missy M]

5. Doesn't show anything except his back to Hillary...

I see McCaskill clapping and she sure doesn't look like she's talking.

[anamandujano]

23. and her eyes are on Hillary

The facts are there.

[npincus]

6. kick

and will keep kicking

[Alexander]

8. You can tell the DUers with fake outrage over this want to call him "uppity"...

But they don't want to get tombstoned.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

14. It's killing them to have to restrain themselves from it.

Obama is sassing the white woman. How dare he.

[Tarc]

26. Ahh, it never does take long for Team Obama to whip out the race card

You stay classy, Alexander. :applause:

[Catherine Vincent]

49. I called him uppity last night and I didn't get ts'd.

Uppity is not a bad word.

[lapfog_1]

9. Different perspective leads to different interpretation.

As Gomer Pyle would say... Surprise Surprise Surprise.

This photo of the same encounter would NOT lead one to the "Barack Snubbed Hillary" version.

[MADem]

17. No, he wasn't. Claire swooped in to save his ass. Nice try, though.

I find it amusing how much this is REALLY BUGGING some people here!

CNN calls it an AWKWARD MOMENT. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/29/state-of-the-union-awkward-moment/

When Clinton straightened up, Kennedy quickly reached across Barack Obama to shake Clinton’s hand. She took it. As they spoke, Obama turned away. Then the senators seated to Obama’s right – Ben Nelson and Ken Salazar — both shook Senator Clinton’s hand and talked to her. Instead of doing the same, Obama turned to look at the back of the room. Sen. Claire McCaskill, who has also endorsed Obama and was seated next to Kennedy, reached across the Massachusetts senator — who was still talking to Clinton — and tapped Obama (still twisted toward the back of the room) on the shoulder. McCaskill engaged Obama in conversation until the moment passed.

[KittyWampus]

27. Claire's a liar and the pix I posted is a photoshop? Congratulations for continuing the silliness

[MADem]

33. So, you aver all those reporters who were in the gallery are bullshitting?

Their accounts, which I have posted, mean nothing because you have a picture -- that MATCHES their accounts? And disavows your fantasy scenario? They saw what they saw.

You're something! I give you points for trying, but don't go taking any logic courses unless you want to waste that tuition cash.

[tabatha]

36. How do you know this version of the story is correct?

I have seen about three or more.

But my eyes tell me that Barack had already turned by the time Hillary shook Kennedy's hand.
See photo.

[Zueda]

20. K&R

[Tarc]

24. Yes, he was turning to tak to Claire

thereby snubbing Clinton. Your point, or lack thereof, doesn't' hold water.

[Vinca]

25. New rule: Obama must wear sunglasses at all times.

We can't afford to have his candidacy trashed by stupid, idiotic speculation about imaginary "dissings."

[jenmito]

28. I sure hope the ladies at The View show this pic tomorrow! Today Whoopie showed the one

from yesterday and commented that "After getting such a big endorsement which HAD to hurt Hillary, he should've been bigger than to put his foot on her neck like that." (pretty close quote, but not exact. The audience clapped in agreement and they discussed it for a couple minutes). :eyes:

[Nedsdag]

59. Of course not!

They hate Obama!

They're pro-Hillary.

[jenmito]

70. I know. It's so obvious by what they say EVERY DAY when talking about politics...

and they know NOTHING. Whoopie actually said talking about "hope" is great but SHE'D like to know where he stands on talking with world leaders. She wants someone who'll talk with them. What an idiot-if she knew anything, she'd know he said he'd meet with our enemies unconditionally UNLIKE any of the other candidates.

[Rageneau]

29. When I'm being an asshole and want to snub someone, I do exactly what Obama did.

That is, I wait for that person to come near and, just when they're about to put out their hand for me to shake, I pretend not to notice it, pretend to be distracted by something, and turn my back on my approaching enemy.

We all do it --- all us consumate assholes.

Thank God the GOP wants us to be the Democratic nominee -- otherwise, we might have to pay a price for our lack of civility and manners.

[soundguy]

30. Bull Shit!

The angle of his head is wrong, he is looking past the woman, over her left shoulder. She is looking at Hillary. Nice try at spinning though.

[Quixote1818]

48. She is looking at Hillary through Teddy's head?????

:rofl: Actually, if you look close her eyes are closed, though she looks like she is engaged with Obama.

[jenmito]

32. MSNBC just backed up your version, saying Obama said he was talking to McCaskill, not snubbing

Hillary. :hi:

[MADem]

34. Well, CNN says otherwise, and they had a reporter in the gallery eyeballing the situation. NT

[jenmito]

35. CNN=Clinton News Network. I'm not surprised. How do you know what angle the reporter saw it from?

[MADem]

38. Wow, how.... pathetic. Any time it's bad news, you play the "They're being MEAN and BIASED" card.

Lame as hell. Like CNN would toss away their reputation to "make shit up."

Kinda funny though, in a footstomping and childish way.

[jenmito]

43. I'm not insulted by your ignorant comment. You DON'T know the angle the reporter saw it from...

and CNN IS friendly to Hillary.

[MADem]

46. It wasn't an ignorant comment. Your insistance that it was is, though.

:rofl:

[jenmito]

50. Yes it was. "Any time it's bad news, you play the "They're being MEAN and BIASED" card."

Bull.

[MADem]

62. Sounds rather FACTUAL to me. Not "bull" at all. NT

[jenmito]

65. Got any examples of that "fact"? Thanks in advance.

[MADem]

66. You just called CNN the Clinton News Network.

Now, unless Clinton bought the network and renamed it, that's an assertion of bias that infers that the network will shop false and cruel stories to help their favored candidate. It's a false assertion, but you did make it.

Of course, you know that you did, so I don't really know why you asked.

[jenmito]

68. I'd like proof of your statement:

"Any time it's bad news, you play the "They're being MEAN and BIASED" card."

Did you forget about CNN having someone ask a question at the Repub. debate and it just "happened" to be a Clinton supporter/surrogate?

[MADem]

81. I just gave it to you. NT

[Bread and Circus]

53. ok from now on you can never complain about CNN.

seriously, are you just that willing to believe anything you want to believe just because some random reporter put a spin on something the way you wnated to hear it?

I swear this board should be mass purged.

[MADem]

67. Uh, every "random reporter" in the gallery wrote this up in their coverage.

You go do your own homework, now. There are dozens of stories from different bylines out there.

[jenmito]

69. And every story I saw on this today gave Obama's explanation.

[MADem]

80. It didn't match the play-by-play. One lies, the other swears to it. NT

[MADem]

83. Because you make the rules here? Hmmmmm. I don't think so.

Good thing you don't make those rules, there, sunshine!! Of course, if there were a "mass purge," (now THAT's a real 'Democratic Party' attitude!!!!) they'd likely start with oh, intolerant assholes with elitist, ignorant, small-tent attitudes who can't bear views that differ from the halfassed ones they prefer.

[Flarney]

39. Yeah, but I bet they were both talking ABOUT Hillary...

Sike. :-)

[question everything]

44. Theoretically, Obama saw Clinton moving in

so he turned to chat with the other lady.

Haven't we all done something similar? Instead of just turning away staring at nothing we can always pretend to show interest in someone else.

What's new?

[Catherine Vincent]

47. Your side kept trying to spin this last night. You're late.

Why don't you post the other photo. He deliberately turned away so he wouldn't have to shake Clinton's hands. Obama acted shitty.

[Quixote1818]

56. "Your Side" ?

Aren't we all on the same side her at DU? :shrug:

[Catherine Vincent]

63. Your side as in "the apologist for Obama acting shitty" side. nt

[Bread and Circus]

51. I would hope they would, but I know they won't.

[meow mix]

52. gee, all that over nothing. looks like the hillarys got shammed.

LOL ROF

[ClericJohnPreston]

54. Whistling past the graveyard?

The picture is clear. This isn't spin, because I'm not vested in Hillary, but anyone being intellectually honest can clearly see Obama's gaze IS NOT TOWARD MCCASKILL, but past her.

He turned away from Hillary purposefully. Again, any defense to this is mere cognitive dissonance....again.

[jefferson_dem]

55. A biggun...

[GalleryGod]

61. Cha-ching! As Bill's Statehouse Crew would say, "Pickin' pepper outta gnat's shiite!"

"Senator, can we move ON !?!?"

[DesEtoiles]

57. kick

[GalleryGod]

60. WEll...there it is! Just as Sen. McCaskill said it happened !

As Jeb Bartlett was wont to say


"WHAT's next !?!?"

[ClericJohnPreston]

64. TRY AGAIN

I'm glad you blew it up. Do you see any eyes meeting there GG???

Neither Obama or McCaskill are looking at each other.

Nice try, though.

[FunkyLeprechaun]

71. So

The camera caught McCaskill in mid blink. Obama is definitely looking at her.

There's plenty of conversations where people can carry one without looking at each other.

[LiberalHeart]

77. And both mouths are closed. Some conversation, eh?

[adabfree]

74. beautiful

[MNDemNY]

76. enough of this, let'stalk REZKO

[LiberalHeart]

78. Yes, much more interesting. I hear he's still in jail. Wonder if Obama visits.

[gorekerrydreamticket]

79. Sharing a cell with John Hsu? ......n/t

[cd3dem]

82. Obama sure does look presidential with Uncle Teddy protecting him from Hillary

[WinkyDink]

84. Nobody said he wasn't. The point is, he saw her RED-sleeved arm reaching towards Ted, and THEN

turned.
IOW---How conveeeenient (TM Church Lady).