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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:06 PM
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Hillary's win margin tonight will be greater than the total number of votes Obama won in SC
Obama won 295,091 votes in South Carolina. Hillary is on pace for a million and is already 283,000 votes ahead of Obama. She will finish something like 350,000 votes ahead of Obama. Votes matter. People matter. You can't ignore what the people of Florida said today.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:06 PM
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1. how many delegates did she win?
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MagsDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:09 PM
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10. You really can't face that people prefer her over Obama...
can you? I mean you just can't accept it. And you won't be able to accept it next Tuesday either. I don't know what it is about Obama that makes his supporters just, well, yech. You really are the nastiest bunch of people I have ever seen on the Dem side of politics.
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:38 PM
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30. so how many is that again? 0. Ok, call me when that changes.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:55 AM
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37. So what is your point? You want to piss enough people off on DU
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 12:56 AM by still_one
so if your candidate is the nominee, in the general election they say screw it I am not voting

Maybe you don't need every vote, this is just a game, their side verses ours

Let's see how much damage we can do to the party, and continue to taunt each other, and then when the general election rolls around, and a repuke is back in the white house, maybe the ones we will have to blame for losing is ourseleves


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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:09 AM
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42. Nothing from nothing leaves nothing


You gotta have somethin'
If you wanna be with me
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:41 PM
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31. She won't need them. And the overwhelming VICTORY shows
that the millions and millions of people in Florida WANT Hillary Clinton for president. Lot of votes to overcome in the couple of small states the other candidate will probably take.
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:07 PM
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2. Holy crap that's devastating
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DUyellow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:11 AM
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43. Obama got ~2X as many votes as he did in SC. All word games.
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 01:13 AM by landonb16
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:07 PM
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3. So? It does not count. It was not a contest. Billary is a snake.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:08 PM
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9. 1 million votes don't count? They foreshadow Super Tuesday
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:11 PM
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14. No, Rwers posting in a Democratic forum are snakes.
Enough with the Billary shit. It really is immature. How old are you? 10?
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Zueda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:07 PM
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4. Why can't I? There's still a place called reality.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:07 PM
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5. It a bigger state
It doesn't make it more important,or the win more meaningful. Maybe if a campaign had taken place here, but it didn't, so it won't
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:09 PM
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11. Get real man. Florida isn't more important than South Carolina?
South Carolina matters once every four years during the primaries. Florida is the fourth biggest state in the country and the engine of the Southeast.
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:20 PM
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25. The engine of the southeast? Thats a bit of a stretch...
and South Carolina does matter. i thought you whole thing was making all the votes count. Why alienate SC?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:22 PM
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26. Besides-- hill has the BIG MO now. SC is history.
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libertee Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:07 PM
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6. yes, and the press will make it headline news for sure...
so it won't be ignored.
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MadBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:08 PM
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7. Whats the percent spread?
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:08 PM
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8. 1 in 12 showed up out of the 18 million Floridians, 1 in 8 in SC of 4.3 million
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:44 PM
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32. I'm curious (but haven't the time to research)
Is Florida the first state where the Republicans had a bigger turnout for their primary?

Also, was Florida the first closed primary (where only registered Democrats could vote)?


(Dems ignore the Independent and Republican acceptance of Obama at their peril.)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:10 PM
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12. Yeah, but they're old. They could die any minute.
Then where will those votes be? Obama's going to get all those 17 year olds who will turn 18 before November. And without a draft, he's golden.

See? It's all hopeless and Obama will win. Because youth must.

Or youth will have a tantrum till you give in.
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:11 PM
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13. LOL
Florida population: 18,089,888
S.C. population: 4,255,083

There are almost 14 million more people in Florida. Are you surprised that vote total and/or margin differences are that stark? Good grief. THINK.
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:13 PM
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15. LOL. Did you think the point was Florida matters a lot more than SC?
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:15 PM
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16. No.
I'm laughing at the fact that you're comparing vote totals and margins of victory between two states that have a difference of fourteen million people.

Please keep the free comedy coming. :hi:
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:15 PM
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18. Florida's voice matters a lot more than SC's as the population numbers reveal
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:17 PM
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Yeah, because we choose presidents based on popular vote, right?
:rofl:
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:18 PM
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22. Florida indicates Hillary has popular support. This will be shown again on Feb. 5
What will the Obamite excuse be then? :rofl:
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hiaasenrocks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:20 PM
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24. Oh, I have no idea that there are millions of people who support The Clintons
and their politics of yesterday.

I'm not predicting anything about the final outcome of this race.

Again, I was simply laughing at your comparison of vote totals and margins between two states with a population difference of fourteen million people.

Have a good night! :hi:
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:54 AM
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36. FL has over 3 times as many electoral votes as SC
in the general.

So yes, winning the state is more important for a GE candidate.
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:17 PM
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19. hmmm
Florida delegates - 0
American Samoa - 3
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:00 PM
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33. Slamdunk!
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:18 PM
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21. LOL !!! - THANK YOU !!!
:yourock:

Hello, McFly !!!

:wtf:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:15 PM
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17. But media is not reporting the over 500,000 votes, 51/31 margin for Hillary
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calteacherguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:17 PM
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20. She didn't win anything, you need to edit your headline. nt
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:24 PM
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28.  sunshine is the cure for SOUR grapes.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:14 AM
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47. How many delegates did she win?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:20 PM
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23. no, can not ignore the real human voters--and Obama tried it by calling it a beaty contest. IT
will haunt him.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:23 PM
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27. ALL FIRED-UP FOR THE LADY--She has the big MO..now-going in Super Tues.
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:14 AM
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45. reminds me of JooooooeMENtum!
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 10:28 PM
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29. And Obama's received hundreds of thousands more votes in Florida ...
... than Hillary's received in all other contested primaries combined. (Hint: This point is as irrelevant as yours.)

Obama won a lopsided, landslide victory in a contested primary. Hillary's won a lesser victory in a name recognition popularity contest. Twice. Kudos for Hillary.

(Note, though, that media is reporting that Obama's won a majority of "recent" votes cast. Hillary's success appears to be based on those who'd voted before the campaigns really took off, underscoring the name recognition/popularity factor.)
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:57 AM
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39. Yeah so you agree Florida is big and more important than small SC
Yes but those figures are misleading because of Obama running ads. He should have won that group.
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Ediacara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:14 AM
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46. You Obama boosters have got to stop claiming that he has no name recognition
Do you honestly believe that no one in Michigan or Florida knew who Obama and Edwards were? Seriously? Are there 10 m walls surrounding both states? Do they have state news media there that doesn't let people know who Obama and Edwards are?

Get real!

Obama's on the news all the fucking time, his face is on the cover of almost every magazine I see in a news stand. Edwards was the fucking nominee for Vice President four years ago!

"Name recognition popularity contest" my shiny metal ass...
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:21 AM
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48. chuckle. The issue isn't that he is unknown ...
... but that neither he nor Edwards are nearly as well-known as the former First Lady. Compare 16 years in the national spotlight versus 4 for each of Obama and Edwards.

Get real, indeed.

Chalk another on up in Hillary's "do anything" column.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-29-08 11:02 PM
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34. But the percentage of the "win" will be considerably less.
Edited on Tue Jan-29-08 11:02 PM by Kristi1696
Florida has a larger population. So what's your point?
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:56 AM
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38. Florida matters much more than South Carolina ever did and it may foreshow Feb 5
Florida's demographics are very close to the nation's, aside from having some more elderly folks. South Carolina and Iowa, Obama's backyard state, are anomalies. So is New Hampshire.
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CyberPieHole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:51 AM
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35. Obama's loss tonight is the beginning of the end for his campaign...
he has not been able to coalesce the older white females and the Latinos/Hispanics. I hope he is undone on Super Tuesday.

:kick: and recommend
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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 12:59 AM
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40. I "hope" Obama wins only 3-4 states on Super Tuesday
And quits shortly thereafter leaving a final showdown between Clinton and Edwards.
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:08 AM
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41. .
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 01:11 AM by BrightKnight
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ErnestoG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:13 AM
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44. How many delegates did she win, again?
......crickets.......
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gmudem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 01:24 AM
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49. Florida also has a much much larger population
And it's state Democrats screwed over the Democratic voters by making their primary meaningless. So far Hillary's biggest victories have been in states nobody was even allowed to campaign in. Kinda says something.
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