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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:45 PM
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Was Kennedy/Kerry on the ballot?
Prior to the endorsements, Obama was polling at about 20% in MA. Looks like he's now got about 40%, so the endorsements had an effect, but not a win. Everyone is acting like Clinton came from behind to hand Teddy/John an ass kicking. She did quite well in the NE, but that's an area that was expected to go in her direction. Not trying to take shots at the Clinton campaign, they are playing their cards well enough to win at this time. My problem is with the MSM for trying to spin every piece of info in a way that puts the Dems (and any Dem will suffice) in the least attractive light.

A Clinton win has to be a Kennedy loss, an Obama win has to be based on racial/gender identity. Let's just get the numbers with the projections. If demographics info is available, give it to us and we'll figure out the meaning.

It's a long night, let's get through it with the minimum of bloodshed and tears, then move on to the next races.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:47 PM
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1. They left their DNA on the ballot!
:smoke:
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:47 PM
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2. Not to mention that Kennedy and esp. Kerry campaigned in several places
So if Obama wins anywhere they campaigned, they might have had an effect. They didn't just stick to Massachusetts.
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:52 PM
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7. The RFK wing backed Clinton.
Think that with her early lead can explain a lot. This is a big day, will be interesting to see how CA plays out.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:49 PM
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3. Throw these folks some CALCULATORS. Clinton up by 40% at one point then a close like this
by Obama is remarkable.

He's growing stronger as Clinton is visibly weakening. Those who insist on not noticing aren't doing the Dem party any favors down the road.
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flyarm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:49 PM
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4. Kennedy and Kerry signed Edwards death sentence..now it is their turn! eom
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:31 PM
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9. No they didn't. Edwards did when he accepted public financing. Sad but true.
Edited on Tue Feb-05-08 10:33 PM by blm
The reality for months now has shown the choice is an open government Dem and a closed government Dem and I think Kerry and Kennedy chose wisely and did so only after their friends Biden and Dodd dropped out and Edwards could not prevail.
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:49 PM
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5. Mass. voters reject endorsements by Gov Deval, and antique Sens Kerry and Kennedy.
:applause:
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:52 PM
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6. I could have sworn they were up until tonight....it has been hell here for Clinton supporter s....
for a week.....sorry if we are feeling good tonight
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bigbrother05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 09:56 PM
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8. Yes, she beat back a heavy onslaught
but it had to distract from where she would have spent time & money if they hadn't come into the equation.
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goldcanyonaz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-05-08 10:33 PM
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10. Many predicted that Kennedy Kerry would turn MA over to Obama.
That's where it's coming from.
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