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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:10 PM
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Did Hillary Camp not open up earlier about self-financing to avoid questions of HOW
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 06:11 PM by blm
she COULD write a check for 5 million given she's been in public service for the last 7 years and was FirstLady before that?

Were her book sales that high in 2003?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:12 PM
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1. she got a ten million dollar advance
and so did bill.

you know she's married, right? same as Obama? and her spouse makes more money than she does, and enables her lifestyle, same as Obama? right?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:16 PM
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5. Yeah - and Bill makes millions off Dubai and Saudi royals who he also just
happened to give protection when he deep-sixed the BCCI report he was handed when he took office.

So, I am all for a forensic examination of the dollars gained and the type of protection given throughout the 90s.

Or do you think it's just coincidence that Bill advocated FOR Dubai to get that ports deal from Bush a couple years ago even though the money behind that company was the EXACT same source of money for BCCI when it started?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:26 PM
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9. well, given that I advocated it as well
since it was a good deal, I can't really complain about him doing so.

frankly, I would rather have someone taking money from sheiks than slumlords.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:31 PM
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10. And taking money from those funding nuclear proliferation and armsdealing
and drugrunning, but there is definitely greater danger to this world from a slumlord in Chicago trying to act a player.

Yep - no great danger to the world from nuclear proliferation that was funded by BCCI - just that soontobe war with Iran, eh?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:33 PM
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12. wow, you do like your stories
is this the 'unite the country and move past partisan politics" i keep hearing so much about? wow, it's fun!
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:38 PM
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15. I'm not part of Obama campaign. I do know alot about BCCI and how it effected this nation on 9-11.
And continues to effect almost every major foreign policy issue.

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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:44 PM
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16. okeledokelee
I am glad you are convinced a bank that folded two years before Bill Clinton became President of the US was so important in an event that happened the year after he left office.

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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:18 PM
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17. Don't be absurd. BCCI's matters were handed OVER to Clinton and there were
many SERIOUS crimes involved. Including Jackson Stephens who just happened to bring BCCI into this country and was also the man who bankrolled Clinton's political career in Arkansas includinh his primary race.

What happened to the report Clinton was HANDED when he took office?

Was his Justice Dept directed to pursue BCCI's figures like Stephens and Marc Rich?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:25 PM
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18. ok.
I thought we were moving past partisan politics of personal destruction, not talking about things that happen 17 years ago? Guess not
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 07:35 PM
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19. BCCI is as current as yesterday and tomorrow. Or is War with Iran not on the horizon?
The war they've been setting up using AQ Khan's nuclear proliferation network as their reason du jour.

Ever read what Sibel Edmonds has had to say? BCCI's agenda never stopped.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:13 PM
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2. No she didn't open up about it
because they are friggin EMBARASSED that they are being beaten financially by a grassroots organization
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:14 PM
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3. No, I think she didnt release that info because it would give people thinking of...
....voting for her the impression they would be wasting their vote on someone who might not have the money to carry on much longer.

That might have tipped a couple of her close wins into losses last night.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:20 PM
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7. That's my feeling as well...
...they look so organized and in control that admitting a slump in fundraising could make an undecided decide to go elsewhere, and she could not "afford" that before super tuesday.
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:15 PM
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4. You are either dishonest or paranoiac. Her finances are an open book.
She and Bill have a combined net worth of something like 25-30 million.

It's all in her senate campaign disclosure forms.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:17 PM
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6. It's a simple question, Kurty.... no need to spout.
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 06:19 PM by blm
I understand you see her as new-fallen snow, but others have a different read on the last couple decades. Let's open discuss.
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frazzled Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:22 PM
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8. Her book sales were enormous
So were her husband's, who also makes a ton from speaking, etc.

Look, no one batted an eye when John Kerry self-financed (though he had to mortgage his house). No one cares if Mitt Romney pays for his own campaign (though there is great resentment from the other R candidates). It's "legal," for what it's worth.

I'm an Obama supporter, but if she wants to risk her own money, so be it. I don't have a problem with it.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:33 PM
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11. Enormous enough book sales to fund two huge homes in NY and DC and write
Edited on Wed Feb-06-08 06:35 PM by blm
a 5 million dollar check?

Kerry bought his house in the early 80s and it appreciated greatly - he motgaged it. We KNOW where the money came from.

Considering the history Clintons have with Jackson Stephens, Marc Rich, Dubai and Saudi royals who were also named figures in BCCI's illegal operations, we have a right to demand full disclosure of any dollars any of those named figures have sent the Clintons' way.

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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:35 PM
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13. well, obviously
but you know she is married, right? and often, married couples share residences that they both pay for? it's quite common in this country. I've even heard that sometimes married couples share bank accounts! I know, it's not how Senator Obama bought his mansion, that was paid for with his lucrative community organizing salary, right?

if we want to talk about shared resources, can we get a view of Michelle Obama's billing records?
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-06-08 06:37 PM
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14. They wanted to Bogart their way past Super Tuesday.
For a variety of reasons.

1. Looks real bad for the campaign.
2. Hurts bringing in money from big contributors.
3. Hurts bringing in money from little contributors.
4. Causes media to question her ability to run a campaign, run the government, etc.

Looks like she's ready to go broke on day one!!
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