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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:03 PM
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These latest states aren't important
Obama hasn't proven he can win a big blue Democratic state yet. Bah, let see him do that one time and I might be impressed.

These races bore me lately.
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:04 PM
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1. !
:rofl:
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fenriswolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:04 PM
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2. .
:P
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Franks Wild Years Donating Member (687 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:06 PM
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10. Hillary Clinton isn't important.
Despite all of the advantages - The de-facto endorsement of the establishment, money (initially), name recognition...She's still managed to make a pig's ear of her campaign.
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polpilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:43 PM
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49. Maybe Hillary can win without people voting for her?
It's happened before.
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Lefty-Taylor Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 08:10 PM
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56. Florida, 2000, for one.
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yeswecan08 Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:05 PM
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Obama will win big in OH and TX (big red state)
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:06 PM
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8. If he wins either one...
Clinton's toast...
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K Gardner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:05 PM
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3. OMG....... ROFLMAO !
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:05 PM
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4. .
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southern_dem Donating Member (587 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:05 PM
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5. Maryland: A bastion of Republicans
:spank:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:05 PM
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6. Looks like someone needs a hug.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:06 PM
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7. Thank you! lol
VA, Maine, NE, et al are not "real" voters or Americans. Nothing to see here.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:06 PM
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9. Washington
It's bigger than Massachusetts. Illinois. Bill Clinton won Georgia. Iowa and NH both go blue as often as they don't. Hillary is banking on OH & TX and they aren't big blue states.

Get a new whine.
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EmperorHasNoClothes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:06 PM
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11. Yes, we know that only the big blue democratic states that Hillary can win count.
:eyes:
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Joe the Revelator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:07 PM
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All contested wins are important
Don't fool yourself.
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:07 PM
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12. Aw, gee
:pals:
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:07 PM
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13. Heard of the 50 state strategy? Dems started it 4 years ago, not big state only..
Obama fits what the Dems are trying to do with this party


Clinton doesn't
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:17 PM
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30. Clinton's DNC LOST 2000, 2002, and 2004 for ALL Democrats. IMO, deliberately
collapsed the party infrastructures in red and swing states so the RNC would have free reign over the election process there - protecting Bush for two terms till Hillary ran.
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elixir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:37 PM
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43. What are u talking about?!!!!!! Scary.
:crazy:
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:07 PM
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14. Baghdad Bob, is that you? n/t
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1awake Donating Member (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:07 PM
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15. ....
you said that on purpose! Theres no way you would have made this post with a strait face knowing thats what's been the joke all day about Hillary supporters.....
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:08 PM
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16. Stop it - you're killin' me....
:rofl:
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:08 PM
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17. "Take my wife..."
"Please!"

Your comedy routine is a fresh as Henny's.:D
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:09 PM
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18. Oh course they aren't important
any state that Hillary doesn't win isn't important. :sarcasm:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:10 PM
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19. Your whining is pathetic
and your sourgrapes' face is turning all shades o' green. WHAAAAAAA..shall we call you a whaaaaaaambulance?
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:10 PM
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20. Considering the DNC let those state party infrastructures COLLAPSE since 1996
you SHOULD be impressed.

The big blues were GETTING all the PARTY DOLLAR attention the Clinton DNC took away from the red and swing states thereby assuring no strong Democratic showing in 2000, 2002 and 2004.

Dean's work on rebuilding those party infrastructures in long neglected states is WORKING and the ASSHOLE wing of the Dem party CAN'T STAND IT!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:29 PM
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39. Yay, Dean! I forgot about
about what his role must have played in all these Democratic primaries..thanks for the reminder, blm!
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Adelante Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 08:17 PM
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60. Yay, Dean!!
:toast:
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:10 PM
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21. Minnesota?
Connecticut?
Washington?

or do those not count?
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:10 PM
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22. How about Washington, Minnesota and Missouri? To name a few. nt
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:10 PM
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23. .
:rofl:

K&R for comic relief....
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JackORoses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:12 PM
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24. could it have anything to do with the fact that your candidate is getting her ass kicked?
maybe?
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:13 PM
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25. Yeah, who cares about the purple states? We don't need those. We only need to appeal to NY and CA.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:37 PM
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42. Yeah, and she lost in half of the blue counties in California (including SF)
and came REALLY, REALLY close in NYC. :crazy:
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:14 PM
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26. The only state Hillary is concerned with is the state of the convention.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:15 PM
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Hillary's about to Guiliani herself.
9 eleven.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:38 PM
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44. 9i11ary
n/t
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:41 PM
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47. Ni11ary
Nill.

British for zero.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:54 PM
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52. No shit....
:D
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quinnox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:15 PM
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27. Yes, Obama can win dinky little states
but when it comes to the majors he can't pull it off!

Obama can't get it done.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:16 PM
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29. He's a grower, not a shower
:P
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:23 PM
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35. Yes, Virginia is so "dinky."
:eyes:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:40 PM
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46. Shit, homie won Alaska, didn't he?
:P

Not to mention Washington, Connecticut, Illinois, Georgia... and about 15 others. :P
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:34 PM
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41. Virginia is a small state? Illinois? Missouri?
Leave the northeast.
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malletgirl02 Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:49 PM
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51. Virginia is not dinky
I voted for Clinton, even though I kind of regret it. I have to defend my state, it is not dinky. Yes, its not currently a blue state, but it elected Webb a, Democratic senator recently, and has a Democratic governor Kaine. It is a purple state, and is getting more purple every day and can become a blue state.

As for Maryland and DC, both are blue. It really pisses me off when people say certain states don't matter
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:15 PM
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28. every state is important
regardless of who you want to win.

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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:18 PM
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31. Fuck Illinois!
:woohoo:
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:19 PM
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32. Yeah, Chicago's not much of a college town anyway



( knows it's Boston in the movie )
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:42 PM
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48. Boston went for Obama
:P
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BayouBengal07 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:22 PM
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33. So wait
Obama wins red states and and you dismiss it because he won't win them in November...but then you put intense scrutiny on his losses in big blue states because that means he loses them in November?
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:22 PM
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34. Thanks for the laugh. Tough night for Hillary backers, isn't it?

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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:26 PM
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36. I think you forgot your sarcasm tag (n/t)
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:27 PM
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37. These states aren't important, because we didn't win them.
There, I fixed your subject line.

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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:28 PM
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38. here's looking forward to a destroyed GOP
Whichever Dem in nominated
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theboss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:33 PM
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40. There are, like, four of those and Hillary lives in one
It's not like California or New York are going to back John McCain in a general election.
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jmg257 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:39 PM
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45. No wonder you're bored - no excitement in placing #2 in a 2 person race - again and again and again
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goodhue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:47 PM
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50. funny stuff
do you write your own material?
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NoBorders Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 07:55 PM
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53. "Let them eat cake" comes to mind.
funny stuff.
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 08:05 PM
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54. Wow n/t
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 08:05 PM
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55. Illinois
ANY Democrat can win big blue Dem states. That's not the issue.
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x-g.o.p.er Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 08:11 PM
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57. Ask Rudy Giuliani if Iowa and NH were important...
because Hillary is adopting the 'Last Stand' Strategery of Rudy in Florida with the firewall of TX and OH.

Obama's got three weeks of bounce from the Potomac Pounding ahead of him, and Hillary's going to be swimming with an anvil after tonight. Politics is all about momentum and perception, and the perception is Hillary's got no momentum. And perception is reality, my friend.

I won't count her out until she's officially done, but she needs what's called a paradigm shift, and it needs to happen tomorrow.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 08:12 PM
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58. ...
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 08:14 PM
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59. You guys are embarrassing yourselves.
Pathetic
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-12-08 08:19 PM
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61. Only states Clinton wins count
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