The GOP has organized their base to vote Obama

[Indenturedebtor]

:sarcasm:

Seriously... in the millions at this point? Can we put this particular tinfoil theme to rest. The organizational structure that would take to pull it off in a big enough way to sweep these caucus states like Obama has been would raise some serious flags. Thousands maybe.. hell maybe even 20,000 nationwide but hundreds of thousands to millions? Rediculous.

He's pulling support in from all over the place. Be glad. You're Democrats for *'s sake! Pissin in your own cornflakes.

[ingac70]

1. first it was the black voters, then the "latte liberals"...

now its Republicans voting for him.:eyes:

Just sour grapes from the haters!

[backscatter712]

2. The best the right-wing machine can do is get Rush and Coulter to shill for Hillary.

But it looks like the party base is starting to see through the lines of shit they've been fed, and they're not cooperating, are they?

[griffi94]

3. you can call it tinfoil if you want

but i know that folks in va did in fact cross to vote for obama
and he'll never get those votes in nov....i know this because one of my co-workers was organizing that very effort

[Indenturedebtor]

4. Yes

And they're also all lying on the national polls etc etc etc. Come on. When he wins the GE (fingers crossed) will you then say that they crossed over hoping that he would screw up and kick off another string of Republicans? :shrug:

The numbers are TOO high, they have never been this high. Never ever ever.

[griffi94]

7. right we've never been this high

but in a year where we'll accept anything we're told as long it says we're winning...we're setting records...believe it or not i don't give a fuck either way...was just passing on that a co-worker was involved in organizing a vote obama day since mccain is alreay their candidate and they would prefer obama at this point....as for the national polls...isn't hillary still leading those even tho she's done...

[Cha]

6. Why? 'Cause they think

they can win against Obama easier than hilary?

[featherman]

5. " the power to cloud men's minds" - Lamont Cranston

aka The Shadow

[Double T]

8. RW corporate MSM and RW CONServative pundits are pushing obama...........

mmmmmm....seems to be something not quite RIGHT! They're standing obama up so they can knock him down.

[Dogmudgeon]

9. There are probably stats on this

It does effect elections. But that's politics.

We should likewise give scrutiny to the caucus system, the way delegates are apportioned, the way "disobedient" states are "punished", and the rest of the controversies that pop up every election, but look like they're brand now.

We should look into all of it, as a "post-mortem". This electoral season will probably be analyzed to death for the text 40 years anyway. Complaining about it either way is a waste of time. So the caucuses favor Obama and the superdelegates favor Clinton. If one factor favors one candidate, and another factor favors another, again, that's politics.

There is something we are forgetting right about now: we MUST win this election. A LOT is riding on it. No matter who wins the primary, they MUST be the person sworn in next year. Our back is to the wall. We can reconcile complaints and correct problems at our convenience once our most pressing matter is resolved -- capturing the White House and a veto-proof majority in the House (and Senate, if possible).

--p!

[ShadowLiberal]

10. There's a certain type of republicans who feel attracted to Obama

There's a certain type of republicans who are attracted to Obama, they often share many of these characteristics.
-Disgust with the current direction of the republican party
-Oppose the war in Iraq
-Are much more socially liberal then most conservatives, and don't feel comfortable in the gay bashing, immigrant hating party of the deep south

There's some other things they share to, I forget what, they were in an article I read months ago. The article was basically calling them "Obama Republicans", and comparing them to "Reagan Democrats" who were disgusted with their own party back then.

[jcla]

11. Your are correct, ShadowLiberal.

I was listening to John Dean who describes himself as a Reagan Republican and does not like the Bush Presidency which he described as an Imperial Presidency on Stilts and Steroids. Remember there are people like Edward Brook, former Republican senator from Mass., who feel ousted by a Republican Party that is so right wing they feel like moderate Democrats. Dean said is feeling was he was now more like a liberal Democrat than a Republican. The Republican Party started out in the 1850's as a radical left wing party.. with Abolitionists, women and Blacks supporting it. Now it's base is in the Old South with what was the old Dixiecrat voting base.

Many Republicans hate Bush's financial irresponsibility in mortgaging our children's future to pay for a war in Iraq while our infrastructure is falling apart, our jobs are outsourced and our economy is hemorrhaging away. To say nothing of Bush violating privacy laws.... torture .... et cetera.

[jackson_dem]

12. It is based on a fact

The conspiracy is an exaggeration but it is a fact Obama's slim delegate margin comes from rethug and "independent" votes. He does much worse with Democrats in Democratic primaries than he does with rethugs and indies, who love him. In some states they lifted him to victory. In almost every state they are giving him extra delegates.