Good article on Michigan primary/delegate situation

[Strawman]

"They, and the ruthlessly ambitious Debbie Dingell, want to be behind-the-scenes kingmakers. They want to deliver the Democratic presidential nomination to Hillary Clinton, for the sake of their egos and their careers. But it isn't turning out the way they planned.

They are in trouble now, and starting to panic. The nomination is slipping away from Clinton, and from their grasp.

Having stupidly botched the primary, they are now fighting desperately to keep from doing the right thing.

Michigan needs a new round of voting. The national Democratic Party agrees, and wants the state to hold caucuses.

But our local party bosses say: No way."

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"They all thought it was going to be Clinton vs. Edwards. More importantly, our arrogant local Democrats (especially Dingell) didn't think the party would really punish them for breaking the rules.

Guess what. They did. The national Democratic Party took all of Michigan's delegates away. They asked the candidates not to campaign here, and none of the serious ones did. Then they asked the candidates to take their names off the Michigan ballot.

And all the major ones did ... except Hillary Clinton. She said in New Hampshire that it was no big deal, because "Michigan's vote is not going to count for anything." That was when she thought she was participating in a coronation, not a nomination fight.

But now it is clear she very much needs the nonexistent delegates she "won" in Michigan, by getting 55 percent in a contest without any other contenders. (There are also "uncommitted" delegates, who may vote for her too if they are told to.)"
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http://metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=12474

[goldcanyonaz]

1. The Metro Times? Hardly a "news" paper. It's more of a bar guide for the Royal Oak, MI area.

And sex classifieds paper.

:rofl:

[Strawman]

2. What a worthless ad hominem that ignores the author's qualifications

The author, Jack Lessenberry is a well regarded columnist and Professor of Journalism at Wayne State.

Which one of his claims in the article do you disagree with?

[goldcanyonaz]

3. Michigan is not going to redo the election. The state is bankrupt.

[Strawman]

6. Then the delegates should not be seated

They shouldn't count, just like Hillary said they "wouldn't count for anything" when she thought she had the nomination sewn up.

http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/michigan/news.newsmain?action=article&ARTICLE_ID=1164053§ionID=1

[cooolandrew]

4. These 2 states democratic parties need to sort it out the world is watching all this say8ing WTF.

[CoffeeCat]

5. I am absolutely disgusted that Hillary Clinton...

...and her party insiders would even think--for one minute about "counting"
Michigan.

The candidates were told not to campaign there and that the delegates would not count.

The entire electorate was operating under the assumption that their votes would not
count. Many voters were disenfranchised by the process and no legitimate election
took place.

How can you want an illegitimate, defunct election to count---when most of the candidates
weren't even on the ballot--because they were told to take their names off the ballot.

This is so outrageous. It's such a disgrace that any Democrat would lobby to legitimize
the illegitimate.

Michigan Democrats deserve better. They deserve to vote and to have their voices count.
Unfortunately, their Michigan leaders are playing games with them.

Have a legitimate election and allow those voters to be heard. Do not disenfranchise them
by counting an election that was illegitimate---and left out many.

This is just so beyond the pale.