Document shows Bush didn't sign his discharge

[zulchzulu]

If you look at the document, you see that Bush's signature is missing. This was the document that had been requested as far back as 1994. Bush finally had it released and you can see why he didn't want it released earlier.

[AntiCoup2K4]

1. Curious how certain fields are blacked out on this document

Marital status, dependents, date of birth, height and weight. :wtf:

This is hardly classified information here. The only reason I could see for blacking those fields out would be if the info contained in them did not match the facts about George Bush Jr.

Or in other words, the discharge record above is that of a Lt George Bush, but NOT the one who is the current illegal occupant of the White House.

Could they really be that stupid to try and pull off something like that??

EDIT: Also, it's kinda weird that no mention is made of the time Junior supposedly spent in the Alabama ANG. If I'm reading the document correctly, the implication is that he transferred from Texas to Colorado, and was discharged from there. Wouldn't the accurate record be that he went from Texas, to Alabama, to Colorado?

[Carni]

2. I wondered about that before

I have seen other documents where those same mundane details are blocked out...was he married to another woman with other mutants back then?

[fob]

6. As you beat me by 7 full minutes I will defer to your post!!

Great points all. I was thinking the Height and Weight redacting were for vanity reasons, bush* always tries to be the BMOC and if "his" records had 5'9" and 145 lbs, that would be too lightweight to fit with his current media-supported cowboy image!

It makes plenty of sense that this could be a different g bush* and the facts don't jive, except if they went as far to forge this document one would think they would do a better job than that. I mean look at those Niger documents that were obvious fakes, oh yeah bad example.

Another good point about ANG. The records out on the net have one showing his request for transfer was denied(even though he was already there), but I think it was finally "approved", so you would think there should be something about ANG.

[Robb]

7. Redaction's a funny thing

What gets taken out depends a lot on the mandate of the issuing agency. For example, when I've received aircraft crash reports, much information that is totally irrelevant to national security is blacked out; specifically, witness statements and remarks by the contractors that built the plane.

The reason is that these statements and remarks are taken by the Air Force with the specific promise that they will be used strictly in capacities that will help prevent future accidents; this helps in that people feel more free to talk about what they really saw, or really think. Since I've got nothing to do with preventing future accidents, when I get the report, their stuff is redacted.

There may be a similarly mundane parallel here. No idea. :shrug:

[rocktivity]

10. SUSPICIONS CONFIRMED

I've NEVER believed he was 5-10! I've always said he's lucky if he's 5 foot nine!

:headbang:
rocknation

[erpowers]

3. What Does This Mean

I am not trying to criticize you, but I do not understand what this means and how it can affect the presidental election. If you would please explain what Bush's not signing this document means. I don't understand its importance.

[Warren Stuart]

5. If you look closely at the signature box

It states that:

HE IS NOT PRESENT TO SIGN THE DAMN THING!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh yeah, nothing to see here, move along folks.

[fob]

4. Why is there a black mark in the "No. Dependents" box?

I understand the redacting of personal info, and security clarences and such, but in 1973 bush* had no kids, or did he?

The twins are what, 21, so that puts their birth in 1982 or 83.

I see that they also blacked out the Single AND Married box, that makes sense since if you just marked out the one, the other would be easy to figure. But since he had no kids, leaving it unmarked would not reveal anything, or would it?

Was bush* married with children and Poppy made that disappear too?

Or was he thinking he might have a "dependent" when he knocked up his underaged girlfriend before she agreed to an illegal abortion?

[TreasonousBastard]

8. I'm not sure anybody signs these things...

I got one in the mail 6 years after I got drafted, and I thought that's the way it's usually done.

Born in New Haven, Harvard B School, the Alabama election firm... not much question of identity here, so that's tinfoil.

Blacking out some of that stuff is interesting, though. Why would he want dependants and marital status blacked out?

Start the rumors-- his Cajun commonlaw wife and kid are buried in the Bayous somewhere. :evilgrin:

[fishnfla]

9. Other DU vets have posted that's not uncommon

to have not signed this form

[LuLu550]

11. seems to me the most relevant information on this

is that out of a six year obligation, he served five years and 28 days but was paid for and credited with five years FOUR MONTHS and 28 days....
and that he has no military qualification...

[caduceus]

12. Help please with the fields on the document...

The document states that he enlisted on Sept. 4, 1968, and was discharged on Oct. 1, 1973. That's 5 years and 28 days as it states in the Length in Service field. So, why was he paid for time after his discharge, and why does it show 5 years 4 months and 5 days for his Total Service for Pay Periods? Since he enlisted for 6 years, how was he able to get out 11 months early, or was he AWOL for 11 months?

[TreasonousBastard]

16. Probably no big deal...

since pay doesn't always match actual service time. There's untaken leave (HA!), bonuses, training, etc, that gets calculated the military way.

How he got out 11 months early? Family juice and a few phone calls. Looks like they didn't really care much if he stayed around anyway. Cost more to keep him on the rolls than he was worth, and they could open a slot for someone who cared.

[PurityOfEssence]

13. Couldn't even show up for an act of extreme patrician favoritism

Lazyissimo. What's the matter? That eight-ball the night before left him so twitchy that he couldn't even drive?

What a baby. This guy probably can't even tie his shoes. I'll bet he's never operated a washing machine or a dishwasher in his life.

[zbdent]

14. Interesting - Box 13 - Race

under white - NA ????

Not applicable???

Could this tie into why the DOB is blacked out too?

Bush is multi-racial, and was conceived before his father returned home?

[TreasonousBastard]

15. NA is because...

he's not a member of the human race?

Actually, note the date on the bottom of the form. The Pentagon uses forms for years before updating them, and by the 70's, it was no longer required to list one's race. It may even have been illegal to note it.

[MaineDem]

17. My husband said he never signed his either

He said it was common practice to get the papers in the mail after the fact.

[Crunchy Frog]

18. Does that mean that he can

be sent to Iraq and forced to complete his Guard duty?

[Mick Knox]

19. This is more than VERY common.. just FYI...

Often they are incomplete etc.. people just wanting to get the fk home..

This is how it work... sorry but file this under.. doesnt mean squat.