Will Kerry Please offer Nadar

[TomSeaverr]

a spot in his administration. So he can drop out of this race?

[WI_DEM]

1. it won't work

imo.

[KittyWampus]

26. Kerry Should Offer Nader An Oppurnity To Kiss His (Kerry's) Ass

Kerry is going to win, possibly by Landslide, and make Nader utterly irrelevant.

[messiah]

What?

Nader is not running for a spot in an administration he's running to change the country.

[LoZoccolo]

4. You can say that again.

Right-wing Supreme Court justices...global warming...the draft...all sorts of changes.

[messiah]

9. Yup all the things the minority of democrats

stand for now will be held by the majority in "power" ten years down the line.

[LoZoccolo]

16. Your post is so indirect, I am not sure what you are saying.

If you mean the Democratic party will change ten years down the line, realize that in those ten years:

An estimated sixteen million people will have died from the effects of global warming:
http://www.wired.com/news/medtech/0,1286,60640,00.html

The supreme court justices appointed by Bush* will still likely be on the bench.

A pentagon report details a scenario where Great Britain could end up with a "Siberian" climate and there could be nuclear terrorism:
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,1153513,00.html

I could go on about other things that might happen...

It's cool though man, you and your ilk got to protest because it might change the Democratic party ten years from now (or drive it further towards the center - why court the high-maintainance vote who's willing to let the environment get trashed for the sake of the environment), and that's all that counts.

(We should have a smiley that hold's its breath and turns all kinds of colors.)

[messiah]

21. The Democratic Party will change but

it will move to where regular conservatives are now. A true pragmatist would realize that power is so concentrated now that there is no way of changing it for the better from the inside where that power has a solid base.
I would rather fight tooth an nail now before fighting becomes useless down the line.

[HuskerDem]

22. Some of their tags are even incoherent, you'll never be able to

engage in reason with a person operating in a freakin' fantasy world.

These Nader cultists never stop to think about the fact that even if reality were suspended and Nader somehow got in............ HE WOULD STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH A CONGRESS AND SENATE. They act like ol' Ralph would ride in on a couple of sea turtles and wave an incense stick and suddenly the whole world would be perfect.

Ask them about THAT sometime.

[jmaier]

18. Quite a few of us believe

Nadar is running primarily out of self-aggrandizement. His message isn't well articulated. He isn't supported by the Greens. He has no chance of a credible showing. Clearly, John Kerry isn't indistinguishable from a 2nd * administration.

The only conclusion: he likes the attention and media coverage and endless handwringing he causes among the Democrats. It's a pretty sad spectacle.

[metisnation]

2. hes a stooge

besides the only votes he is stealing are Bush's..don't believe the papers/polls they are all BS.

[rock]

6. Agreed

Nader is an alternative choice for Republican'ts, Dems don't need one.

[peachy]

3. I don't think he needs to do that.

If he would just embrace some of the issues that make Nader popular. Single Payer health care is a big one. Campaign Finance reform is another. Corporate personhood another.

Kerry seems to be running his race like another Bush-lite candidate - When he calls BushCo liars and crooks he should stick to it. When he backed away Nader got a couple more votes. Every time he appears to back down to Bush, Nader (or worse no-one) gets another vote.

In short I wish you folks would quit blaming Nader for your own shortcomings.

[creeksneakers2]

12. Not much of a deal you are offering

We can have the Nader voters back if we promise to go so far to the left that we lose.

Nader has tilted PA in Bush's favor. The polls show he is taking almost all of his votes from Kerry.

If a man can only get half a loaf, and he turns it down, he must not be that hungry. Nader voters ask for the greatest financial sacrifice from the public for social programs, but will pass up help for those who need it most in exchange for the mere self satisfaction of making a statement. Kerry wants health care for many more people and he has a chance to win. Don't you care about those people?

Shortcomings? Millions of people have worked very hard, often as volunteers, to get the liberal policies we have now, including the campaign finance reform you are demanding. The faults you find in them presume that every time they don't agree with the far left they have chickened out or sold out some how. The party takes into account the opinions of those who don't fully agree, rather than pretending that only those who agree are morally fit. That's why we have what we have.

I don't blame Nader. I blame the people who vote for him.

[peachy]

25. Want energetic support for your candidate? Move left.

It is simply not true that the Democrats will succeed by catering to republican voters. Kerry's health plan is a joke designed to be undermined by the insurance industry in exactly the same way that Clinton's' was. More and more people are realizing that we need a major change in the direction in our country. How much longer can we depend on the availability of cheap oil? There is no easy alternative available and anything less than a full scale effort to solve this problem isn't going to be enough.

Kerry isn't willing to stick his neck out and say that - you know why? Because most of you are as comfortable in your middle-class consumer lives as your republican counterparts and you are no more willing to accept the fact that your lives may need to become a little less comfortable...

[Terry_M]

5. If Nader's out

The people who aren't satisfied with either party will find someone else in the remaining 8 months until the election, maybe whoever the green party selects.

[flaminbats]

14. correct me if I'm wrong...

Nader decided not to run as a Green, because the party has not decided whether to even run a Presidential candidate this year.

[Terry_M]

17. I think they intend to...

http://www.gp.org/convention/index.html

[capriccio]

7. President of Haiti

Perfect for him...no corrupt corporate pigs anywhere for miles...

[dolstein]

8. Nader wouldn't accept

If Nader really wanted to serve in government, he'd have run for Congress years ago. The only role he's comfortable with is the outside agitator. That's why he'll never run for an office he can actually win.

[fishnfla]

10. My friend, please read the 3/8/*04 issue of the New Republic

Educate yourself to this asshole's true mission .Nadar is a fucking stick in the mud gadfly who cant be trusted

[readmylips]

11. Nader dangerous at any speed....

At 70, he must be taking too much viagra. Let's send him a couple of whores, maybe he'll get over it.

[Crunchy Frog]

13. Why should Kerry give in to blackmail

from someone who is not even a Democrat, and who has proclaimed himself to be an enemy of the Democratic party. IMO that would only make Kerry look weak and willing to engage in appeasement. I doubt very much that Nader would be appeased anyway and he would still be a loose cannon hurting the Kerry campaign.

If Nader ever had such an interest in influencing the Democratic party, he should have done it as a Democrat. He probably could have easily won a house seat, at least at one time, and he certainly could have been a Dem presidential candidate, just like Al Sharpton, and Pushed his agenda for the party in that way.

If you think that Kerry should offer a cabinet position to Nader, maybe he should offer one to Bush as well?

[Dr Fate]

15. Nader could have courted that idea in 1999,,,

...instead he decided to join the ranks of the GOP & Media in attacking & distorting Democrats.

I vote "no."

[trayfoot]

19. from the Guardian

Surge in support for Nader spells trouble for Kerry
Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday March 17, 2004
The Guardian

A new poll suggested yesterday that Ralph Nader's independent presidential bid represented a serious threat to the Democratic candidate, Senator John Kerry.

The New York Times and CBS News poll revealed a tight two-man race for the White House between President George Bush and Mr Kerry. Mr Bush had a narrow lead of 46% over Mr Kerry's 43% - within the poll's margin of error.

But when Americans were asked about a three-man race including Mr Nader, the 70-year-old consumer activist attracted 7% support, mostly at the expense of the Democrat. In that contest, Mr Bush led Mr Kerry by 46% to 38%.

Mr Nader's poll ratings are higher than at this point in the 2000 election. Many Democrats claimed that the independent candidate had helped Mr Bush to win by dividing the liberal vote in swing states such as Florida and New Hampshire.

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[HuskerDem]

20. I want him to offer Nader a pearl handled pistol and 12 paces at sunrise

Asshole.

[Blue_Roses]

24. Nader is an opportunistic

smuck who could care less about the Democratic party.