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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:35 PM
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Republican criticizes Kerry saying Heinz Ketchup has overseas factories
Edited on Thu Mar-18-04 09:36 PM by Eric J in MN
On the "Dennis Miller" show tonight, a woman who is the communications director of the California Republican Party criticized John Kerry by saying that the Heinz Ketchup Company has overseas factories.

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Firstly, neither John Kerry nor Theresa Heinz run the Heinz Ketchup Company. Theresa just inherited money made from the company.

Secondly, John Kerry never said there should be no overseas factories owned in America. He said he will reverse tax-incentives which help companies move jobs overseas.

On the "Dennis Miller," show, no one pointed this out.

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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:37 PM
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1. Jeezus chyse.... the RNC is using foreign workers in
Edited on Thu Mar-18-04 09:38 PM by Gman
phone banks.
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nicecakes Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:37 PM
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2. It's no secret there are 57 Heinz factories overseas
As long as the Kerry's don't condemn American overseas factories then it's not a problem.
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Tim_in_HK Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:38 PM
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3. Why are you surprised?
They don't do well with nuance, or, actually, thought.
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:38 PM
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4. I see that the Repuglinazis are smearing Kerry again.
:eyes:

:puke:
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:39 PM
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5. Would you really export ketchup?
Most countries produce their own food products. Sounds like more idiotic Republican logic to me.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:41 PM
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6. Since Heinz has marketed products overseas for years
It's not too surprising that they have factories of shore.

However I have heard that the Heinz corporate offices are now also offshore, as in Bermuda or whatever. THAT is, and should be, a major problem for any Democrat to support.
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:58 PM
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13. Heinz is...
an established company and foundation that Teresa inherited and is charged to manage.I'm not even certain if she has that much control over the company. My impression is that her major responsibilities are the philanthropic entities. I doubt Kerry has any substantial role - except perhaps for pillow talk. Even then, Teresa doesn't strike me as an easily led woman.


It's Rovian focus....as in today's ever-so-liberal headlines reporting Kerry being off to a luxurious millionaire vacation. Funny when Whistleass goes to Crawford, the implication is he's gonna muck out the barn. He may be full of it - but he ain't shoveling it.


The only thing that should be difficult for a Democrat to support is another minute of the stinking corruption of the Bush Administration.

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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:12 PM
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17. Wrong... Heinz is a publicly owned company with stock issued ...
Teresa Heinz Kerry has nothing to do with the running of the company. She may own stock (I don't know one way or another about that), but she does not own enough stock to be registered with the SEC as a major stockholder.

This is simply an attempt to smear Kerry with something that neither he nor his wife has any say on.

Also, Heinz has been an international company for many many years... They have factories in this country for the manufacture of perishable foods sold in this country, and the same in other countries throughout the world.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 11:04 AM
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36. Biatch probably thinks all the world's Coca-Cola...
...is made, bottled, and shipped from Atlanta. Idiot.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:00 AM
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25. deja vu all over again
This is exactly what they did to Al Gore. It's a 3 step process.

1. Latch onto some issue (with Al it was a claim that he'd been to a disaster site with James Lee Witt, actually, he'd been to seventeen others with Witt, but he hadn't gone with Witt on this particular trip, and with Kerry it's this Heinz issue)

2. Inflate it to absurd proportions, usually via the media (Gore Lies! Gore Lies AGAIN! Any of these headlines sound familiar? With Kerry, they're trying to pin their own crimes on him, namely the offshore corporate offices)

3. Sit back and watch the polls climb as people gobble up these Whoppers without question.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:36 PM
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18. In l886 Henry Heinz first started selling his products in London
and in l896 he opened a store next to the tower of London. There now are factories all over the world and Heinz has aquired many other companies around the world. The Heinz family sold out in the nineties. Theresa only handles the foundation and has nothing to do with the Heinz corporation. It's web site says it IS A US BASED COMPANY. Whatever.
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 11:51 PM
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24. Well, hell...
I think we agree. I was trying to say just about the same thing. She is not the company.Apparently Heinz trusted her to administer the foundation. Kerry may have married into this - I dispute the accusation that he controls it. Unlike Pickles, I doubt Mrs. Heinz-Kerry is beholden to her Zooloft prescriptions to make it through a day.
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Layman Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:45 AM
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27. More Heinz History
Between 1937 and 1945 Heinz produced for the German market an alphabet-type soup consisting soley of swastika shaped pasta. I'm sure the present Nazis in the White House will be torn over whether or not to smear the Kerrys with this.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 09:57 AM
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33. Internet myth
Check out this article on Snopes.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:51 AM
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35. You mean everything those right wing nut jobs
tell us here and in the emails I get is not truthful ? :silly:

Thanks for the heads up. :)
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Layman Donating Member (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 11:17 AM
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37. Regret Not Verifying
You're right Robb I should have got more than one source for that post. I swear there were reliable ones before but can't find them now. Hopefully I'll be more conscientious next time.
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KC21304 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 10:42 AM
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34. Of course.
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boobooday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:45 PM
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7. Heinz makes the BEST ketchup
I won't eat anything else. They define ketchup. And it's goshdarn American too, ketchup.

I love how the Republicans are SOOO dim they can't seperate a widow who inherited money from a HEINZ from the company.

http://www.wgoeshome.com
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:46 PM
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8. The economic environment does not promote American factories.
In fact the current "free"-trade environment punishes companies that try to keep their factories in America.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:51 PM
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20. A bottle of ketchup is not like a shoe or a jeep.
A machine does not assemble a shoe or a jeep. Workers, with the assistance of machines, assemble the shoe and the jeep.

A bottle of ketchup and a can of peas are filled and labeled almost entirely by machines. No one "assembles" a bottle of ketchup. Very few countries need to import ketchup.
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:46 PM
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9. Charlene Zettel?
Former dental hygenist?

She's an idiot, IMO. Even among Republicans, line 'em up, and she stands out as an exceptionally shallow moron. :eyes:
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MSgt213 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:48 PM
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10. Of course not misinformation and misdirect is the republican plank
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:56 PM
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11. Well the good thing is it was on Dumb Millers show so no one
but you few saw it.
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nicecakes Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:00 PM
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14. How long can the facts be hidden?
The truth always comes out in the end.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:11 PM
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16. The Heinz stuff in America is made in Pittsburgh, PA.
You think that the Coca Cola or Del Monte grean beans they eat in Italy are manufactured in the US? This is just more evidence that people who never leave the United States have NO IDEA about the rest of the world. Food products are ALWAYS made in or near the country where they are consumed.

Outsourcing is when you take a product manufactured in the US, often for US consumption, ship the job overseas and then reimport the finished product.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 11:42 AM
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38. Pittsburgh factory does mostly pickles and relish
Edited on Fri Mar-19-04 11:44 AM by JVS
We also make the annoying foil packets here. My mom used to work down there. The ketchup people have in their house is not made in Pittsburgh. You are right about most countries having their own facillities. Coke has a plant in Essen Germany if I recall correctly.
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 06:46 PM
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42. I'm looking at my bottle of barbecue sauce and it says
made in Pittsburgh, PA. I just figured out what foil packets you are talking about.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 09:58 PM
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12. we export
tomato`s to those factories that are overseas-these people will lie about anything
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:04 PM
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15. Gosh, I guess I'll vote for Bush now because of that fact
Who would have thought other countries have tomatoes? I'm shocked!
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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:38 PM
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19. This is so encouraging
The Lying King is already fresh out of meaningful dialoge. Desperate acts of desperate men. How can anybody take these assclowns seriously.
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jburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 10:57 PM
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21. They hate us for our condiments!
Will ketchup now be renamed Freedom Paste?

:crazy:
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Tim_in_HK Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 11:49 PM
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23. I think it's more of a sauce . . .
So Freedom Sauce may be more appropriate. But that's really just semantics. The Freedom is what's important! ;-)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 06:29 PM
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40. Can I adopt that as my sig line??? nt
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tobius Donating Member (947 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-04 11:32 PM
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22. that's only phase one on theresa, unless he can start addressing them
they will begin to pile up----


03/17/04

Stephen Koff
Plain Dealer Bureau Chief

Washington- Teresa Heinz Kerry, wife of presumptive Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry, detests the way Wal-Mart does business, saying last month that "they destroy communities."

But that didn't stop her from investing at least $1 million in stock of the company she so despises. And another company that is the source of much of her wealth - the H.J. Heinz Co. - sells plenty of ketchup, steak sauces, french fries and various frozen foods through Arkansas-based Wal-Mart stores. ....
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1079519589321890.xml

..... According to the Center for Public Integrity, John Kerry's most recent financial disclosure statement showed his wife owned $1 million to $5 million worth of Wal-Mart stock. The disclosures don't require a more precise accounting, and any sale within the last year will not show up until later.......

..."She's just wrong," Sarah Clark, Wal-Mart's corporate spokeswoman, said of Heinz Kerry. "We have a pretty good view of the state of communities throughout the country, because we work and live there, so from our standpoint most of them are in pretty good shap
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brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:05 AM
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26. Phase one...
She's not some helmet-haired
Prozac Princess... I feel certain she'll hold her own in the days to come.


OTH, I wouldn't mind seeing Pickles, the Prince who thinks he is or any of his handpicked disassemblers try to go head to head with Teresa Heinz. She'd eat 'em alive.

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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:47 AM
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28. well maybe the demand wouldn't be so high if Reagan didn't....
Edited on Fri Mar-19-04 12:48 AM by GloriaSmith
...declare ketchup as a vegetable.
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XanaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 12:56 AM
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29. This made me laugh out loud!
:)

Good one!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 06:30 PM
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41. HAH! ROFLMAO! nt
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 07:05 PM
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44. Yes! Yes! Yes!
:toast:
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 01:01 AM
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30. Letter to the WSJ from V.P. of H.J. Heinz Co.
I posted this before:

March 11, 2004

H.J. Heinz: No Connection to Senator and His Wife

Catherine Monahan makes two incorrect assumptions in her March 2 Letter to the Editor1. First, contrary to her belief, there is no business connection or influence between the H.J. Heinz Co. and Sen. Kerry and Mrs. Heinz Kerry. Heinz is no longer a family-owned company but a publicly owned corporation with a diversified body of shareholders. In the mid-1990s, the Heinz Family Trusts and Endowments (which have no association with the Heinz Company Foundation) sold a substantial portion of Heinz shares, thus reducing their holdings to less than is required to be reported under the Securities laws.

Second, with 60% of its sales outside the U.S., Heinz's overseas factories provide food products for our consumers in overseas markets and are not directed toward the U.S. market. In fact, our large ketchup factory in Ohio and other tomato-processing facilities in California export around the world, in addition to serving American consumers. With manufacturing facilities close to our markets in all inhabited continents, we are proud to serve millions of consumers with "Good Food, Everyday."

Ted Smyth
Senior Vice President
Chief Administrative Officer
H.J. Heinz Co.
Pittsburgh

URL for this article:
http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB107897368841152281,00.html (paid subscription)




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joanski01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 07:20 AM
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31. Some nut case called
C-Span Washington Journal yesterday morning (or the day before) and said that the tomatoes they used in the ketchup were mostly rotten and covered with maggots. The host hung up on him. That was my chuckle for the day.

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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 07:29 AM
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32. I am not sure, but didn't Heinz sell out to Delmonti a couple years ago?
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 01:57 PM
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39. Oh, no!...and Kikkoman has soy sauce factories in the U.S.!
The Japanese should be outraged--NOT.
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SendTheGOPPacking Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 06:52 PM
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43. Cheap and easy shot
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sangha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-04 08:59 PM
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45. That's a misleading subject line
Edited on Fri Mar-19-04 09:00 PM by sangha
It should read "Republican AND DUer's criticize Kerry saying Heinz Ketchup has overseas factories"


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