The Ohio Poll: Clinton 47,Obama 39,Edwards 9,other 2,undecided 4

[Algorem]

http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83896&provider=gnews

Cincinnati -- With just over a week remaining until the Ohio presidential primary, the latest Ohio Poll finds Sen. Hillary Clinton leading Sen. Barack Obama by 8 percentage points among likely Democratic primary voters.
The latest Ohio Poll finds Hillary Clinton leads Barack Obama 47 to 39 percent among likely EDemocratic primary voters March 4.

At this time, an additional 9 percent of likely Democratic primary voters intend to vote for John Edwards, who suspended his campaign at the end of January.

Two percent of likely Democratic primary voters intend to vote for another candidate, including Ohioan Dennis Kucinich, who ended his campaign for president in January, and 4 percent are undecided as to how they will cast their vote March 4.

Republican Sen. John McCain holds a wide lead among likely Republican primary voters...




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[catgirl]

1. This poll doesn't include Independents

I'm sure the race is closer than this.

[Renew Deal]

2. I don't buy that 9% will vote for Edwards

Sounds like BS.

[saltpoint]

3. The 9% for John is exciting but very surprising. Really?

[bowens43]

4. Exciting? How about stupid?

The guy has dropped out of the race. The nominee will be either Hillary or Obama, how is casting a vote for Edwards anything other then stupid?

[saltpoint]

5. Edwards has suspended his campaign but that doesn't make people who

like him "stupid."

Jesus.

[Independent-Voter]

7. They're not stupid per se, but voting for Edwards now is a pointless exercise. Why bother?

[saltpoint]

19. The consciousness of any individual would be held high by Madison and

Jefferson and Paine.

I think I'd want to hang out with that bunch as much as possible.

[polichick]

6. As an Edwards supporter who gets that he's now out of the race...

I think voting for him is quite a bit less than wise.

[jackson_dem]

9. Obama and Clinton aren't entitled to any votes. They should go earn that 9%

[polichick]

10. They have been trying to earn those votes...

imo the loyalty to Edwards by supporters who haven't heard from him since he asked for a big supply of money and then dropped out of the race seems a bit misguided.

[jackson_dem]

13. And failing. Tough luck. They may be celebrities but they aren't entitled to red carpet voting

That is a cheap attack. It isn't as if he asked for the money planning to drop out. The reports are he had been thinking of dropping out after New Hampshire. You don't just quit campaigning to mull it over and then comeback if you decide to stay in. You proceed as if you are continuing if you need to pull the plug you do so.

Only Obamites think Edwards has some odd obligation to speak and endorse St. Obama. Richardson, Biden, Dodd, Kucinich, and Gravel haven't endorsed anyone either. Usually when candidates drop out they don't endorse until the general? Did Dean endorse right after he dropped out in 2004? Clark?

[polichick]

17. Actually, a campaign insider told NPR that they pretty much knew...

...they were dropping out the night of SC ~ and yet asked for new funds after that.

Nowhere did I say that Edwards should endorse Obama ~ I don't even think his endorsement will mean much. But I do think he should've stayed in touch with us supporters while he considered the next move.

[jackson_dem]

18. "Pretty much knew"

That is consistent with what I said. No campaign freezes itself to mull things over. Every candidate since the beginning of fund-raising keeps proceeding as if s/he will not drop out because in reality you can't take a break to think things over and then come back. The only candidates in modern times who have dropped out and came back were Ross Perot and Gary Hart and they were crippled by it and both left due to scandals, not thinking over whether they should drop out due to poor performance.

What is the conspiracy theory that many Obamites have stated? What would raising an extra $200,000-$300,000 before dropping out give to Edwards?

This poll shows his endorsement would matter more than the conventional wisdom holds, at least in Ohio perhaps not so much in Texas.

Ideally candidates would keep their supporters informed about whether they are considering dropping out but that is not realistic. Can you imagine an e-mail "Hey, I am considering dropping out but just in case I don't keep working hard for me and keep donating to me!". That wouldn't work and that is why 0 candidates do that.

[elocs]

12. I had decided to vote for Edwards just a week before he "suspended" his campaign.

In Wisconsin I may have voted for him if I disliked both Obama and Clinton, but I voted for Obama because I clearly understand that either he or Clinton will be the nominee of the Democratic Party. Yes, casting a primary vote for Edwards would be quite a bit less than wise.

[jackson_dem]

8. It is a protest vote against the two corporate celebrity candidates

What is wrong with that? Primaries are where you can make protest votes without risking throwing the election to the rethugs. The fact Edwards is almost in double digits despite being out the source is a sign many people yearn for a real choice. Too bad the corporate owned msm denied us that.

The poll also shows that Edwards' endorsement will still matter...

[scheming daemons]

11. Or it might be that uninformed Ohioans don't realize he's no longer running....

....

[jackson_dem]

14. Unlikely since he dropped out a month ago

Plus every state that has voted since he dropped out has known he has dropped out as their voting shows. Trade is a big issue in Ohio. It isn't surprising the ghost of Edwards is doing well there against two "free" traders.

[underpants]

15. Okay call me stupid-I voted for him in Virginia

:patriot:

[underpants]

16. That is trouble for her (as I understand it) she needs to win by 2 or 3 touchdowns

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