Public Service Announcement: I think we need a sex ed 101 class at DU.

[Maddy McCall]

The median age for menopause is 51.5 years. Some women go through menopause a little earlier, some a little later.

More than likely, Hillary Clinton has already experienced menopause, and she did so quietly and in a dignified private manner, without you noticing. I'm sure she appreciates your concern, though.

If your wife/mother/cousin/neighbor is experiencing hot flashes and mood swings because of menopause and this concerns you enough that you feel the need to post about it at DU, then I suggest your wife/mother/cousin/neighbor consult with a better gynecologist than the one she's currently seeing. There are many medications that null these symptoms. Many women go through menopause with no sypmtoms at all, thanks to the wonderful advances in the medical field in the past fifty years.

While there are myriad remedies for your wife/mother/cousin/neighbor's menopause-related discomforts, I'm sad to say that there are no easy remedies for your being stuck in the dark ages in your knowledge of women's health. It takes much more effort to discard long-ingrained sexist notions than it does to do away with hot flashes.

Tomorrow we'll discuss constipation, should that topic pop up in the threads today.

This ends this Public Service Announcement for today.

[rinsd]

1. Nicely done....

[busymom]

2. Thank You

[Fresh_Start]

3. much appreciated nt

nt

[comradebillyboy]

4. constipation, at least it would be refreshing change of pace

from most of what I see in GD-P these days.

[Blue-Jay]

5. Why would Sex Ed 101 address menopause?

Seems like more of a biology issue to me.

Unless there are some awesome positions that only older women know about....

[MonkeyFunk]

26. Heheh

what kind of sex-ed did YOUR school provide?

I'm old, so ours was a film strip about armpit hair and pimples. No discussion of positions - that was left to peer tutoring at recess.

[DemBones DemBones]

31. For the benefit of eejit males. nt

[burythehatchet]

52. .

:rofl:

[Fearless]

6. Your point is well and good, but...

"quietly and dignified" is a load of bull crap. It's remnant of our 1950's hide our problems, hide our differences, separate but equal mentality. And, we're better that it's died.

If you are going through menopause or anything "quietly and dignified" is an insult to the difficulties that you will have. Haven't we gotten past our squeamishness yet?

[Maddy McCall]

10. It was a jab at the lowest DU element which thinks that women...

become irrational screaming banshees when they go through menopause.

I agree with you, and would be glad to talk more about this in the women's forum at DU.

[eridani]

37. Not everybody has difficulties

I didn't, but a good friend is still having hot flashes 10 years after her last menstrual cycle. With menopause, the watchwords are YMMV. If Clinton were having uncontrolled hot flashes, every female TV watcher over the age of 55 would know about it.

[Fearless]

DEL-DUP: Stupid slow server.

[Fearless]

45. I wasn't talking of difficulties solely surrounding menopause but of all of life's struggles.

The 1950's idea of holding it in and putting on a happy face is, as I said, bull crap.

[eridani]

49. True. I misunderstood your comment

Do anonymous people on public streets ever demand of men that they smile?

[Fearless]

50. In my world it would be a requirement.

:evilgrin:

[Fearless]

46. DEL-DUP: ...Sigh... server...

[lapislzi]

44. Menopause is not a medical event any more than menstruation is.

I don't go around announcing when I have my period. If I suffer discomfort, I attend to it privately as I would any other condition.

It's nobody's business, and is certainly no cause for attention.

[Fearless]

47. You shouldn't have to keep it to yourself...

I didn't say you had to celebrate it or something, but that society as a whole should be able to talk about it as anything other than taboo. It's natural. It's a part of life. There are a great many people who would benefit from being able to find help if they need it, or maybe just a little support from friends and family.

[LostinVA]

7. Great OP -- k&r

Can you do one about PMS later this week?

[jillan]

8. I think we better discuss constipatiion sooner - seems like alot of DUers are suffering from it

today.


:hurts:

[Whisp]

9. and others have diarhea of the mouth. nt

[Maddy McCall]

11. Recognizing that you have a problem is the first step in recovery.

:)

[emilyg]

30. and keyboard.

[babylonsister]

12. "Tomorrow we'll discuss constipation"

:rofl:

[NanBo]

13. As a menopausal woman

I support this thread, however, I don't think medications and treatment are required. I'd rather rant and rage :) And I feel quite dignified when I do so!

Can't wait for the constipation lecture! :toast:

Go Obama!

[NightWatcher]

14. what the hell does menopause have to do with anything

I think everyone needs a time out and a drink

[Cameron27]

15. Thank you!

[stevenleser]

16. I'm very pro Obama, but I do not believe anyone who tried to

bring up Hillary and menopause as anything to do with voting against her should retain posting priviledges.

[NastyRiffraff]

17. Great!

I went through menopause without even noticing it, until I realized something was "missing." (And I didn't miss it!)

[BootinUp]

18. Public Service Announcements are a necessary thing, lol. nt

[Auntie Bush]

19. How about a lesson for those who have Obamiarrhea?

Those that can't stop or control the praising of the wonders of Obama. lol

[Beacool]

20. Good one!!!!!!

:rofl:

[Breeze54]

21. Buwahahahaha!

:hurts:

:rofl:

:P

[JohnnyLib2]

22. Ahhhh, the need for public education never ends. Thanks.

:kick:

[THUNDER HANDS]

23. how about constipation during meopause?

is that Wednesday? I don't want to be late.

[Rowdyboy]

24. This has to do with "lady parts" doesn't it........I remain blissfully uneducated on the subject

however it never seemed to stop Indira Ghandi, Golda Mier, Margaret Thatcher or Angela Merkle.

[GumboYaYa]

25. O yeah...remember the six days war????

:)

[Adams Wulff]

48. Don't forget the Falkland Island War!

[boston bean]

27. I am rolling on the floor. Thanks Maddy!

:rofl: :rofl: :spray: :rofl: :rofl:

[femrap]

28. Let's make sure that all know what

menopause is: the reduction of estrogen production to about 20% of that during pre-menopause. Progesterone production goes to zero. Many doctors believe it is the lack of progesterone that causes uncomfortable symptoms.

There are other theories that American women's high diet of dairy products (milk, cheese, yogurt, ice cream) that contain even more estrogen because the cows have been given 'growth' hormones (which is estrogen) has lead to more troubling symptoms...and also the higher breast cancer rates that American have as compared to Japanese women. Japanese women don't have menopause symptoms....of course the think drinking milk from a cow is insane....why not drink milk from a dog??? Once one is weaned from the mother, don't go looking for another specie's milk...it's not good for you!

However the Dairy Industry tells American women we must have CALCIUM for strong bones....so drink milk, eat cheese. There are other foods that contain calcium.

Believe it or not, Premarin which is just about the only drug the medical community uses to treat menopausal symptoms was developed back in the '50's.....AND NOTHING ELSE has been studied. Premarin is urine from a pregnant mare. The mare is artifically inseminated and stands in a small stall with a catheter in her for the entire gestation. The foal is born and gets to spend maybe three days with its mother and then it is taken away and slaughtered for dog food. The mare is artificially inseminated again and the cycle continues. The mare usually dies after about three pregnancies...just standing in that stall. These Premarin 'factories' are in N. and S. Dakota, Montana and Canada.

The medical community doesn't even know what causes a 'hot flash.' And they really don't care. No research is performed on menopause...women have been force fed Premarin for over 50 years.

Of late, women have decided to go the natural route and have find a Compounding Pharmacist who would compound an estrogen or progesterone that exactly mimics the hormones her body produces. BUT, this is a problem for Big Pharma...what occurs NATURALLY can not be patented. So no $ for Big Pharma...so now Big Pharma wants the FDA to outlaw Compounded hormones because 'they are drugs and have not been tested on people!!!!!!!'

I hate corporations.

Read Dr. Lee's book, "What your doctor won't tell you about Menopause."

I liked Progesterone cream.

This post has become very long...theories on the affects of testerone on our culture are VERY interesting. Testosterone masks empathy...increases violence...and results in a loss of patience, focus, and concentration. Men have testosterone 'periods' 3 weeks out of the month with only one week of calm sanity. No wonder our world faces constant war. This can be treated however.

This ends my PSA for today.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

32. Compounding pharmacies are excellent.

They make testosterone cream in small concentrations for women. There are no testosterone products on the market in low enough doses for women, so you have to go to a compounding pharmacy. They make lots of different bio-identical hormones.

And the FDA is suing several of them and trying to outlaw them.

[femrap]

33. Isn't it crazy???

Getting W out of the WH cannot come soon enough.

And I want Big Pharma reined in...greedy shits. No more advertising ...use that $$$ on research.

[PeaceNikki]

29. Thanks, Maddy!

:thumbsup:

[David Zephyr]

34. K&R.

A PSA that deserves a K&R.

[Forkboy]

35. I think some in this forum just need sex period.

Maybe they could let some of that anger go. :)

[Laelth]

42. Amen to that!

I think, in fact, that lack of sex is the principal cause of all the hate spewed over in Freeperland. But, generally speaking, more sex is good for everyone, R's & D's alike.

:dem:

-Laelth

[robbedvoter]

36. But then I thought she had "periodical downs" -how do I reconcile this truth from ABOVE

with your so called facts? Sorry, but when BO speaks, I listen...

[jlake]

38. .........

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :patriot:

[Muzza]

39. Thanks. Some of the more sexist of the men in here need some educating!

[LadyVT]

40. Thanks!!

[Laelth]

41. LOL.

Is this one of those threads from which we might all benefit from seeing who recommended it?

Does this belong on the greatest page?

:rofl:

I'm generally against DU censorship, but it's ironic that the OP has a call out for greater monitoring of the posts and recommendations of DU Members, on the grounds of cleaning up the greatest page when, in fact, this post made it to the greatest page, itself.

See the thread to which I refer here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4769244

This post is why I would not censor the greatest page. It's neither newsworthy nor terribly insightful. It is slightly informative, but the informative data is not supported by the kinds of links that would make me think this is a scientific exposition. Rather, it's a blatant attack, but it is also really funny, and I am glad it got recommended. Otherwise, I would probably not have read it.

:toast:

-Laelth

[Midlodemocrat]

43. But, Maddy. What explains her out of control behavior?

Surely that can't be the media, can it? It has to be hormonal.

:rofl:

:thumbsup:

[matcom]

51. too much Fresca?

:shrug:

[sueragingroz]

53. right on sister!