A very real reality check, how deep the HRC hole goes...

[Blarch]

I won't even worry about a poll, it would just fan the flames and expose people who still might wise up.

I would bet my best goat that if asked, "who ran the dirtiest campaign, HRC or BHO ?" ...the Hillary supporters would claim BHO ran the dirtiest campaign.

This is something new to our party, we haven't seen a candidate vow to run the race like Rove would( http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/14/AR2007081401722.html )..we haven't seen a candidate praise the republican nominee while shitting on her fellow Democrats.

And we haven't seen our fellow Democrats reject reality in the way the Hillary supporters are doing right fucking now, if they truly believe Obama has run the dirty campaign then I am not sure I want to know. I feel like I am losing my mind, who could possibly be telling Hillary to say these horrible things ? ...Seems to me that she is campaigning more for MCCain than she is for her self.

Perhaps this is what it looks like when a third party is born in the USA.

(sorry for the rant, I just took a couple bong hits)

[skooooo]

1. Spot on...

I agree!!!

[peoli]

2. Maggie Williams

[polichick]

3. "Perhaps this is what it looks like when a third party is born in the USA."

Could be ~ first a giant crash and burn, and then rebirth. Pass that bong, would ya? :)

[Ichingcarpenter]

4. she is joined at the hip with McCain

London-based WPP Group owns Penn, Schoen & Berland, whose president Mark Penn is Hillary Clinton's chief advisor. The same British lobbying octopus also owns BKSH, whose chairman Charles Black is the lead advisor to John McCain; and WPP also owns Ogilvy Government Relations, whose leader Wayne Berman is McCain's Washington DC finance co-chairman and senior advisor.

Enough connections for you?





Well, there are more. Penn's firm, Burson-Marsteller Worldwide -- with 2,000 employees and $300 million a year in revenue -- owns BKSH & Associates, the major lobbying firm chaired by Charles R. Black Jr. That's right, Black, counselor to Republican presidents, and now John McCain's advisor reports to Clinton's top strategist.

The connections get even more entangled. Burson-Marsteller is a subsidiary of WPP Group, a London-based advertising and PR giant that owns many of the biggest names on K Street. These include Quinn Gillespie & Associates, Wexler & Walker Public Policy Associates, Timmons & Co., Ogilvy Government Relations Worldwide (formerly the Federalist Group), Public Strategies Inc., Dewey Square Group and Hill & Knowlton.

To be more precise, Penn's parent company employs as lobbyists and advisers an ex-chairman of the Republican National Committee (Edward W. Gillespie), a former House GOP leader (Robert S. Walker), a top GOP fundraiser (Wayne L. Berman), and the former media adviser to President Bush (Mark McKinnon).
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20 ...

[BlueManDude]

5. There is simply no chance in hell I will vote for her in November.

[BeatleBoot]

6. Wow, a "Dirty Campaign", huh?

This election has been pretty easy going by most standards.

If you think this has been a dirty campaign by either candidate, you are either young and naive or new to the process.

This has been kids stuff, so far.

So, put on that helmet, strap yourself in - and if you need a mouth-guard, get one PDQ.

It's only March.

[bigtree]

8. softballs

and, Obama's tripping on every one thrown

[BeatleBoot]

13. No doubt.

[Blarch]

14. See, that the point of my post.

Obmama is NOT "tripping on every one thrown"

[Blarch]

9. You are talking about..

Dems vs. Repub

This is Dem vs. Dem.

We all expect the repubs to swiftboat and smear, but we are seeing something new with Hillary, she swiftboats the Dems while praising the REPUB NOMINEE.

Don't act as if this isn't happening, lets be honest now.

[Ichingcarpenter]

27. McCain's chief advisor works for Penn who

is Hillary's chief Strategist.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=4936693&mesg_id=4936853

[Ichingcarpenter]

10. No, your Candidate is tied to the hip with the Democratic Party's Repulican opponent.

Connected by business, strategists, politics and money

[BeatleBoot]

12. My candidate doesn't have a lawyer representing her at the Rezko trial.

And, man, did Rezko's Defense Attorney talk about Barack Obama today in court.

Buckle up.



:rofl:

[mrreowwr_kittty]

16. I'll take Rezko over the Clintons' cavalcade of slimy donors any day. nt

[bigtree]

17. "I'll take Rezko"

:rofl:

[mrreowwr_kittty]

19. And you can have Hsu, Burkle, Rich, Murdoch, Gupta, et al.

Oh yeah, and Rezko too since he and several of his co-defendants have also donated to Clinton.

[BeatleBoot]

18. By all means.....

:rofl:

[mrreowwr_kittty]

20. And you can have Hsu, Burkle, Rich, Murdoch, Gupta, et al. And Rezko since he's her guy too!

[BeatleBoot]

21. Dupe!

Got 2,025 yet?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

23. Won't be long til we do! nt

[Dogmudgeon]

28. They can't take stress.

Neither can they deal with frustration. And now they have seven whole weeks they will have to sweat out.

Team Obama will implode. They are about a week away from making their FIRST fatal blunder.

--p!

[msongs]

7. one pill makes you larger, one pill makes you small, the ones that obama gives you don't do

anything at all.

happy bong hit.

Msongs

[mudesi]

11. Hillary supporters: THERE IS NO SPOON!

[sueragingroz]

15. remember this?

[mrreowwr_kittty]

22. Sure do. It was embarrassing

"Enough with the SPEECHES and the big RALLIES!!!"

"Shame on you Barack Obama!!"

[RazBerryBeret]

26. don't forget the double talk:

Speeches don't pay your mortgage...Speeches don't put food on your table....did she forget that Bill made $31 million in speaking fees between 2001 and 2005??? Don't know about you, but that would put a hell of a lot of food on MY table...

[IsItJustMe]

24. I have been a zeolot for candidates before. But I never would deny reality like what I have seen.

[Patsy Stone]

25. I hope you brought enough for everyone!

Puff, puff, give.