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winterlight Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 09:57 PM
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Unlike Sen. Obama, Hillary Campaign Never Contacted Canadian Government About NAFTA
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 09:58 PM by winterlight
3-6-2008

The Hillary camp is denying the accusations against them, while the Obama camp neither denies nor confirms allegations against them.

"Unlike the Obama campaign, we can and do flatly deny this report and urge the Canadian government to reveal the name of anyone they think they heard from. The Obama campaign has given a variety of misleading answers to the press and the public about its top economic adviser’s contacts with the Canadian government and should come clean about why they did so." – Campaign spokesperson, Phil Singer


Last week, CTV reported that a senior member of Obama’s campaign called the Canadian embassy, reassuring officials that Sen. Obama’s talk on NAFTA was just campaign rhetoric. The initial report carried a strong denial of similar low-level meetings with the Clinton campaign:

“Low-level sources also suggested the Clinton campaign may have given a similar warning to Ottawa, but a Clinton spokesperson flatly denied the claim.”


The Clinton campaign also offered blanket immunity to any Canadian official who could provide names of any initiators or recipients of such contacts.


Read more: http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=6382
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:00 PM
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1. I guess it is true cause Hillary said so, just like she said mccain is more qualified
than Obama to be president



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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:08 PM
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11. Hillary was referring to McCain's foreign affairs and she is right.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:22 PM
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25. I'm glad we got that straight. So if Clinton is the nominee ... I have vote for McCain
It's the best conscience decision for all Americans to vote for the best candidate. Right?

http://action.credomobile.com/sirota/2008/03/the_clintonlieberman_connectio.html

Clinton was actually even more brazen than Lieberman. Not only did she lie about her record, she actually went on the offensive attacking Obama over the very trade deal she has long championed, "rais doubts about whether he was committed to reworking NAFTA," as the AP noted. To use the Lieberman-Lamont analogy, that's would be like Lieberman not only pretending to be against the war, but actually attacking Lamont for not opposing the war more strongly. Even Lieberman wasn't cravenly dishonest enough to do that - but Clinton was.

Hillary Clinton no longer a Dem, it's time she learned the Zell Miller rule.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOytXkCw0NY
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:24 PM
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28. You vote for whoever you want. Of course i think only an idiot would vote for mccain--but go for it
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:46 PM
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41. I won't vote for mccain or Hillary if she gets the nomination
she lost my respect the momement she brought mccain into the picture

I see very little difference between Hillary and Lieberman


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hueyshort Donating Member (293 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:57 PM
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44. Sad that this is what Obama is reduced to
Nothing going for him, so he comes up with lies.
That guy is going down fast.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:41 PM
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35. Yes
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:59 PM
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45. No
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AZBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:02 PM
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2. Yeah, Hillary Clinton never lies, so this must be the case.
:sarcasm:
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:41 PM
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36. who said no NAFTA meeting took place -then a memo surfaced and they admitted to the meeting - a lie
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:42 PM by papau
I believe the liar was Obama
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:02 PM
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3. hilary's proven herself to be a liar so
anything coming outta that camp has to be vetted. She's earned her liar status.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:12 PM
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16. NO name released for this heresay from Canada!!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:12 PM
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17. why has not BO issued a flat NO??? what is he hiding?
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Tribetime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:36 PM
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33. Tax returns?
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:02 PM
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4. Yep. And it all this time since the story first broke, no one has come up with a name.
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:03 PM
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6. I feel like I am living in the National Enquirer these days!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:18 PM
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20. I need a shower from all this sewage comments by Obamafolk!
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:22 PM
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26. It's beyond bizarre isnt it?
:D
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:05 PM
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9. Yes they have: Ian Brodie.
He's Harper's chief of staff. The onus is on him to explain what he meant, not the media.
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Lucinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:21 PM
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23. He's not in Clintons campaign. I asked for a name from the Clinton camp.
Edited on Thu Mar-06-08 10:21 PM by wlucinda
The "someone" who supposedly talked with the Canadians.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:03 PM
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5. Sorry...
but I'm afraid I'll have to take the version of events reported in the Globe and Mail (a Toronto newspaper with nothing to gain from supporting either candidate), relying on info from the Canadian PM's chief of staff, over an obviously biased site run by the Clinton campaign.

Mr. Brodie, apparently seeking to play down the potential impact on Canada, told the reporters the threat was not serious, and that someone from Ms. Clinton's campaign had even contacted Canadian diplomats to tell them not to worry because the NAFTA threats were mostly political posturing.


More: http://ago.mobile.globeandmail.com/generated/archive/RTGAM/html/20080305/wnafta06.html

Nice try, but they're obviously lying.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:04 PM
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7. 'Blanket immunity'? From what, Canadian Law?
Seriously, what does that mean?
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:09 PM
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13. LOL, my thoughts exactly....
The Canadian government doesn't need any "blanket immunity" or "authorization" from anyone with regard to this controversy. There is, however, an investigation or a whitewash, either one, into the actions of both the Consulate low-level staffer and his "memo" and those of the Prime Minister's chief of staff. Do they need the Clinton campaign's "blanket immunity" and "authorization" to investigate too?

:rofl:
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:31 PM
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31. Yeah, what's up with that?
How does that work?
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:04 PM
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8. HRC - ZERO credibility with me.
It's not that the Clintons lie. It's that they lie with such ease.

hillyhub means nothing to me. spin from inside the house. bfd.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:10 PM
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14. Amen to that.
I've never seen a candidate so utterly devoid of a conscience. I can't believe the time, energy, effort, and yes, even money I spent defending them in the past, but no more. Never again.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:29 PM
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30. Same here. I defended them til I was blue in the face and for what?
I defended them against the same tactics they are now using against not a Repub, but a fellow Dem. :wtf:

I will *never* defend either of them again. Ever.

Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. I'll not be fooled again.

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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:20 PM
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21. BO lost the respec of OHIO voters over this issue. they are the smart ones.
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sueragingroz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:05 PM
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10. Hillary knows how to handle this stuff like a pro /nt
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:08 PM
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12. Hillaryhub is wrong.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:11 PM
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15. More lies and spin from Hillary
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GoldieAZ49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:15 PM
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18. Doesn't matter, Obama lost trust and respect
just another politician
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:17 PM
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19. ~*~
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canadian_is_cold Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:20 PM
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22. I am not sure why Hillary supporters are not bothering to do the research but here you go...
According to the most recent reports here in Canada...

On Feb. 26, Prime Minister Stephen Harper's chief of staff Ian Brodie made the statement "someone from (Hillary) Clinton's campaign is telling the embassy to take it with a grain of salt. . . That someone called us and told us not to worry."
He made the statement in a room full of reporters.

What we are waiting to hear, is what happened between when the statement was made and content of Mr. Brodie's remarks were passed on to CTV's Washington bureau, their White House correspondent set out the next day to pursue the story on Ms. Clinton's apparent hypocrisy on the North American Free Trade Agreement; and when the CTV correspondent Tom Clark reported the story on air, Feb. 27, only briefly mentioning Clinton, and focusing his story instead on the Obama camp. A false report that probably lost Mr. Obama the elections in Texas and Ohio.

Steven Harper is under a great deal of scrutiny right now, Canada is not about to let this story rest, even though it seems American media is pretty much ignoring it.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:25 PM
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29. HA HA---nothing but DAMAGE control by CANADA and BO!
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canadian_is_cold Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:45 PM
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39. You need to pull your head out of your .......
(EXPLETIVE DELETED)!
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:45 PM
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38. no source - and Brodie says the quote is a lie - so this proves what?
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canadian_is_cold Donating Member (207 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:47 PM
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40. Government officials did not deny the conversation took place.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:21 PM
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24. Thanks for an excellant post.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:22 PM
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Emit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:34 PM
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32. facts from hillary hub?
biased much?
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:39 PM
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34. It is obvious that Clinton' campaign was behind it
we've heard these flatly denies before
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 10:44 PM
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37. LOL - it was Obama that lied about not having a meeting with Canada about NAFTA speech
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Beausoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:48 PM
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42. The more Obama keeps whining about this the deeper the hole he digs.
Prediction: Obama will cease mentioning this over the weekend.

Take his licks and move on.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-06-08 11:54 PM
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43. "blanket immunity"?
The Clinton campaign is offering blanket immunity? From what? Prosecution?? They have no power over Canadian officials. This makes absolutely no sense.

Your entire post is bullshit.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:00 PM
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46. Ahahaahahahahahaha
:spray:

Her campaign is nearly a parody... frickin unreal.
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