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RunningFromCongress Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:12 AM
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Why is HRC basing this race on National Security?
She cannot win in November on National Security. And here's why:

1) She looks just as inexperienced as Obama next to McCain

2) She voted for the War, FULLY supported the war, and you better believe those video clips will come out in full force.

3) McCain will beat her down with his military experience, "Not only has Sen. Clinton never served, but we all know her husband dodged the draft" uggg I can hear it now.

4) She can't discredit him on experience BECAUSE SHE ALREADY SAID HE HAS A LIFETIME OF IT!!!!!

At least w/ Obama it would be about a totally different direction and TYPE of leadership in the White House.
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Mooney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:13 AM
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1. Because she still thinks it's 2002. n/t
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MH1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:14 AM
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2. She'd rather see McCain as president than Obama?
:shrug:
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:15 AM
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3. Because the only way she can beat Obama is to shift the race to McCain's preferred narrative.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:17 AM
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4. She thinks Obama can't win on it either. She doesn't care anymore
whether she wins. She just doesn't want Obama to win, so she's trying her best to frame the GE on terms she sees as favorable to McCain and unfavorable to Obama.
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RunningFromCongress Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:18 AM
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5. Why so she can be the "I told you so" candidate of 2012...great...
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:26 AM
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14. She should know that if her plan works, I'm not supporting her then either.
:hi:
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:19 AM
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6. Because she's one smart woman who
knows what she is doing in a political race. That's what this entire general election is STILL going to be about. We are not going to get into the White House by being peacniks in a country that is full of citizens who have been indoctrinated into George W. Bush's 8 years of terruh-ism and paranoia. Trust me. She's one of the good guys. Many just cannot see her political shrewdness.
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RunningFromCongress Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:21 AM
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11. What shrewdness? Please explain to me how she wins on National Security against A POW WAR HERO
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Chasing Dreams Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:26 AM
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21. Do you have any more of that koolaid your drinking?
I listen to Hillary and feel like shit. I know my son is going to get drafted by McClinton. Please share so I can turn off my brain.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:20 AM
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7. Obama’s credentials "a speech in 2002".
Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2003?

Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2004, at Kerry's convention?

Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2005?

Where was Obama's big anti-war speech in 2006?

Where was Obama's anti-war filibuster in 2007? Was stopping the war worth standing up, Barack?

Perhaps what you obama folks are really asking, "If he's got more than a 2002 speech - where is it?"

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WHEN CRABS ROAR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:20 AM
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8. She's playing the fear card, works on stupid Americans.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:20 AM
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9. For the same reason she voted for the war in Iraq . . .
she wants to be Margaret Thatcher???

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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:20 AM
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10. She obviously plans on withdrawing eventually
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 12:22 AM by DJ13
Thats the only thing that makes sense about using national security now considering her greatest asset with Democrats should be (in theory) the economy (#1 issue with voters) due to Bill's prior record.

National security is a wedge issue the Republicans will use against Obama, so using that now against him appears to be an overt attempt to weaken him in the GE so McCain can win.

Which would allow her one last chance (at 64 years of age) to run again in 2012.

She's trying to sabotage Obama, ruin her own party's chance to retake the WH, all to satisfy her personal lust to be the first female President in our history in 4 years.
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RunningFromCongress Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:22 AM
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13. I can't help but think you're right...that's the ONLY plausable answer
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:21 AM
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12. Clinton is appealing to fear.
Obama appeals to hope and our better nature. Clinton appeals to fear and our darkest instincts. It's right out of Rove's playbook. It's the same fear card played by the repukes in 2002 and 2004.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:27 AM
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15. Because she wants to be McLames VEEP n/t
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johnnydrama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 12:38 AM
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16. for some reason
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 12:38 AM by johnnydrama
She thinks that you aren't allowed to use what anybody says in the primary in the GE.

She seems to feel that this whole experience thing she's going on about is just a primary thing, and she'll
get to dictate what the topics are in the GE.

Sorry Hill, ain't going to happen. McCain will bury you on the experience thing.

When he tells her in a debate that her whole primary run was based on experience, well I think i'm a lot more experienced than you, than what? When I was in the Hanoi Hilton you were smokin' dope with your husband in college.

You can just guess how it'll go.

She'll look horrible.

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laconicsax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:09 AM
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17. She's trying to score points right now to try to regain the front-runner status.
My guess is that she already has a general election strategy and national security isn't a big part of it.
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:15 AM
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18. Because supporting the worst foreign policy blunder in recent history
makes you strong on national security?
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:21 AM
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19. Because when GE Begins, it has been discussed over and
over National Security is to be front and center.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:23 AM
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20. Because Hillary is really a neocon like Joe Lieberman
Hillary is a scum!
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