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El Supremo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:20 PM
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The worst part of Hillary's actions is not what she is doing to the party...
it is what it is doing to the future prospects of a woman in the White House.

America is far behind the rest of the world in women's political power. I was really hoping that would finally change with Hillary breaking the biggest glass ceiling. But she has set it back decades.
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:23 PM
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1. I don't know about decades (who can really tell?) but she has engaged in behavior...
that would be unthinkable among the women leaders of Europe, for example. What she thinks of as strength seems more like a school-yard bully--passive aggressive.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:42 PM
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8. Then you don't know Queen Liz or her Mum very well
give me a break..what is she supposed to do keep her head down and smile demurely.
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global1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:26 PM
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2. And You Know - She Doesn't Care Because........
she is only thinking of herself. Not women in general. Not the Dem Party. Not the America People. Sad.
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SoFlaJet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:26 PM
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3. She is a disgrace
and The Medusa has now officially morphed into Joe Lieberman-and will be hated for it just like he is-I can forsee her NOT running as a democrat for that senate seat in 2012 and she will LOSE
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:43 PM
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9. Not so fast ..we love her!!!!!
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:28 PM
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4. You Couldn't Be More Wrong
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 01:28 PM by Crisco
Hillary is giving US women a working example of what they're going to have to put up with if they have a serious shot at winning.

Forewarned is forearmed.
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Growler Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:30 PM
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5. Agreed
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:30 PM
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6. She rode in on her name which was not hers, but Bills.
Yes I think she is hurting the party and women. I fear it will mean McCain in the WH. I do not see how Obama can stay above the mud and slime. If he does it, gets into the slime, it will rub off. I think it will keep all those people he brought into this voting from voting in Nov. They will look at it as the same old stuff as always and why most say to hell with it in the first place. Course then Clinton would say 'well they never vote any how'. I am thinking, to hope for anything changing will not happen unless we get rid of the Clinton's and send them back to Ak. Bill is going to be co-President at the cost of any one I think.
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flor de jasmim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:36 PM
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7. THIS is the essential point - her reputation is built on Bill's
I'm not saying that she hasn't done things on her own or that doesn't have the skills to be an effective policymaker. But the experience she is trying to sell is largely based on her work as First Lady, a position she obtained exclusively through marriage (by definition!). In her justification of experience, she mentions having witnessed first-hand Bill's having answered the phone. The First Lady papers are not available because they are in Bill's library, etc. etc. The impression she gave early on was that Bill was sent out as her attack-dog. Now, most campaigns have one, but it is not a point in her favor that hers is her husband. Poor policy move.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:48 PM
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11. are you people as dumb as you seem or what?
Take a look at the countries she "ambassadored" when she was 1st lady...A hell alot of good international communications were done at himself wasn't with her...I guess it appears there are many chauvafeminists here.
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Oleladylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:44 PM
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10. Do you really THINK-!!!!???..Bill being co-prez would be a damn good thing about now.
Edited on Fri Mar-07-08 01:46 PM by Oleladylib
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:54 PM
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14. I did wait for 8 year for him to fix NAFTA like he said he would
maybe he will in this next 8 years but I do not things will change alot with a Clinton in office. Half out problems right now are because of the same old way of doing things. And tell me, will things be different with the two parties if we get Clinton once more? I am just waiting for McCain to put Jeb on the ticket. If Obama does not get to run I would guess not enough people are ready for any change, yet. You can only get a new type leader if the people want one.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:51 PM
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12. I've been saying that for months
I think her problem is she's running as a minority candidate, when she should be running as a majority candidate.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:52 PM
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13. Well there ya go! And do ya
think hilary gives a flying monster fuck? Hell no..if she can't have she wants mccain so she can run in 2012.
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