Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Obama's Coattails

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
 
OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:28 PM
Original message
Obama's Coattails
Fri Mar 7th, 2008 at 12:33:32 PM EST

Can we all agree that most people that go out to vote in November will be primarily interested in casting their vote for president, and not for Senate or the House? If you are Jeanne Shaheen, for example, and you are running against John Sununu for one of the New Hampshire senate seats, you can do almost as well by convincing people to get out and vote for Obama or Clinton, as getting them out to vote for you, right?

Presidential election years are different than midterm election years. When we think about blue senators in red states (e.g., Mary Landrieu or Tim Johnson) or red senators in blue states (e.g. Gordon Smith or Norm Coleman) it is much easier for a challenger to beat them in a presidential year than in a midterm year. The reason is greater turnout, and that favors the candidate of the same party as the presidential candidate that carries the state. It is just difficult to get voters to vote for one party for president and another party downticket.

If you've been paying attention, you know that there are 35 senate seats up for reelection this year (33 regularly scheduled and 2 special elections). Twenty-three of those seats are held by Republicans and 12 are held by Democrats. But that doesn't tell the whole story. Let's look at the seats.


Senate seats that voted for Gore then Bush or Bush then Kerry (with incumbent)
Iowa- Tom Harkin-D
New Hampshire- John Sununu-R
New Mexico- Pete Domenici-R (retiring)

Senate Seats that voted for Bush twice

Alaska- Ted Stevens-R
Idaho- Larry Craig-R (retiring)
Montana- Max Baucus-R
Wyoming- Mike Enzi-R
Wyoming (special election)- John Barrasso-R
Colorado- Wayne Allard-R (retiring)
South Dakota- Tim Johnson-D
Nebraska- Chuck Hagel-R (retiring)
Kansas- Pat Roberts-R
Oklahoma- James Inhofe-R
Texas- John Cornyn-R
Arkansas- Mark Pryor-D
Louisiana- Mary Landrieu-D
Mississippi- Thad Cochran-R
Mississippi (special election)- Roger Wicker-R
Alabama- Jeff Sessions-R
Georgia- Saxby Chambliss-R
South Carolina- Lindsey Graham-R
North Carolina- Elizabeth Dole-R
Virginia- John Warner-R (retiring)
West Virginia- Jay Rockefeller-D
Kentucky- Mitch McConnell-R
Tennessee- Lamar Alexander-R

Senate seats that voted for Gore and Kerry

Delaware- Joe Biden-D
Illinois- Dick Durbin-D
Maine- Susan Collins- R
Massuchusetts- John Kerry-D
Michigan- Carl Levin-D
Minnesota- Norm Coleman-R
New Jersey- Frank Lautenberg-D
Oregon- Gordon Smith-R
Rhode Island- Jack Reed-D

To examine the differential coattails of Obama versus Clinton, let's look at two things. First, let's look at Charlie Cook's Senate Rankings (.pdf) and then let's combine that with the SurveyUSA polls for McCain matchups against Obama and Clinton.

SAFE DEMOCRATIC (coattails not needed)
Pryor (AR) Obama -20, Clinton +11
Biden (DE) Obama +9, Clinton +5
Harkin (IA) Obama +9, Clinton -5
Durbin (IL) Obama +29, Clinton +11
Kerry (MA) Obama +7, Clinton +18
Levin (MI) Obama +1, Clinton 0
Baucus (MT) Obama -8, Clinton -20
Lautenberg (NJ) Obama 0, Clinton +5
Reed (RI) Obama +15, Clinton +17
Rockefeller (WV) Obama -18, Clinton +5

While none of these candidates should require any coattails to help them get reelected, it is clear that Obama would help Harkin, Durbin, and Baucus, while hurting Pryor and Rockefeller. Clinton would help Pryor, Rockefeller, and Kerry, while hurting Harkin and Baucus. In this category, Harkin and Baucus are the most vulnerable.

Advantage: Obama

LIKELY DEMOCRATIC

Johnson (SD) Obama -4, Clinton -12
VA (J. Warner) Obama 0, Clinton -10

In this category, Obama does less damage to Johnson than Clinton would. Obama does no damage to Mark Warner, while Clinton creates a drag.

Advantage: Obama

LEAN DEMOCRATIC

Landrieu (LA) Obama -15, Clinton -10

In this category, Clinton does less damage to Landrieu than Obama would.

Advantage: Clinton

TOSS-UP

Stevens (AK) Obama -5, Clinton -22
CO (Allard) Obama +9, Clinton -6
Sununu (NH) Obama +2, Clinton -8
NM (Domenici) Obama +7, Clinton 0

In this most important category, Obama gets a clean sweep. Obama is winning in Colorado and New Hampshire, while Clinton is losing. Obama is winning in New Mexico, while Clinton is tied. And Obama is much less of a drag on Mayor Mark Begich's bid to oust Ted Stevens than Clinton would be.

Advantage: Obama

LEAN REPUBLICAN

Collins (ME) Obama +14, Clinton +6
Coleman (MN) Obama +7, Clinton +4

In this category, Obama supplies better coattails in both races.

Advantage: Obama

LIKELY REPUBLICAN

NE (Hagel) Obama -3, Clinton -27
Smith (OR)- Obama +8, Clinton -5
Wicker (MS-B)- Obama -13, Clinton -9

In this category, Obama makes Nebraska competitive (even winning one electoral vote out of the state) while Clinton serves as a severe drag on the ticket. Obama is winning Oregon, while Clinton, disturbingly, is not. In Mississippi, it looks like Clinton causes modestly less damage than Obama, but, even here, any Democrat hoping to win statewide in Mississippi must get dramatic black turnout.

Advantage: Obama

SAFE REPUBLICAN

Sessions (AL) Obama -14, Clinton -10
Chambliss (GA) Obama -13, Clinton -21
ID (Craig) Obama -13, Clinton -36
Roberts (KS) Obama -9, Clinton -9
McConnell (KY) Obama -21, Clinton -9
Cochran (MS A) Obama -13, Clinton -9
Dole (NC) Obama -2, Clinton -8
Inhofe (OK) Obama -23, Clinton -8
Graham (SC) Obama -3, Clinton -6
Alexander (TN) Obama -16, Clinton 0
Cornyn (TX) Obama -1, Clinton -7
Enzi (WY-A) Obama -19, Clinton -33
Barrasso (WY-B) Obama -19, Clinton -33

This is the most interesting category because this is where there is the most distinction between the candidates. A pattern emerges in the border states. Obama does horribly in Oklahoma, Tennessee, Kentucky, (and West Virginia). Clinton does horribly in Idaho, Wyoming (and Nebraska, Colorado, Montana, and Alaska). Among the 13 'Safe Republican' seats, Obama does better in 7, worse in 5, and they are tied in Kansas.

Advantage: Obama

In the 35 senate races, Obama is more helpful in 22, Clinton in 12, and they are tied in one. But if we eliminate the 13 'Safe Republican' and 10 'Safe Democratic' seats, the advantage is even starker. In that case Obama leads in 10 and Clinton helps in two (Landrieu and Wicker).

Considering the importance of maximizing the Democratic majority in the Senate, the coattails of Obama are an important consideration.

http://www.boomantribune.com/story/2008/3/7/123332/8281

Sent to me by a well-informed friend. :)



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
wellstone dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:37 PM
Response to Original message
1. this is the one reason I caucused for
Obama. I want his coattails.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:39 PM
Response to Original message
2. Whoa! 35 seats open?? Rec'd! nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
thevoiceofreason Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 01:43 PM
Response to Original message
3. And not even mentioned are down-ticket races
In Texas, Obama at the top is huge to them. Hillary will set the party back 10 years in Texas.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ChromeFoundry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-07-08 02:00 PM
Response to Original message
4. Recommended
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Mon Apr 29th 2024, 05:57 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC