Question for Obama supporters... for all the support of the high road

[Texas Hill Country]

I don't understand the dichotomy of how you expect Obama to be treated and they way you treat Clinton.

What Clinton supporters say about you or your candidate is NOTHING compared to the pure, vitriolic and seemingly irrational hatred a good number of you spew all over the board.

If you truly believe in Obama, his message and positivity, while rejecting Hillary's "negative" tactics, then why do a great number of you resort to calling her a bitch, coat tail rider, "that woman", criminal, slime ball, liar, and worst of all - Republican...

The most the Clintonites say is that Obama is naive and inexperienced, or at worst... hey, whats up with this Rezko thing?

You tout his "walking the walk" while you stumble backwards... I dont understand.

[Maddy McCall]

1. Thanks for this.

I'd like to see the answers to this. I bet it'll just be more right-wing anti-Clinton vitriol, though.

[BOSSHOG]

9. Hi Maddy

Are ya gonna get snowed on? Pretty damned cold and windy down here right now. A light dusting would be nice to wake up to.

[Maddy McCall]

32. I don't think we're going to get any.

:( I'd love to see a little tonight, though!

[democrattotheend]

2. I've heard much worse from Clinton supporters, but I agree

I've heard vicious attacks from Clinton supporters on Obama and his supporters here.

But I agree that Obama supporters do not do our candidate a favor by being obnoxious, and have called my fellow Obama supporters out on it a number of times. We ought to take the high road and think about how our posts reflect on Obama. I try to do that, but sometimes Clinton supporters here make me so mad that I find myself getting sucked in.

[Texas Hill Country]

10. I can understand... things can get frustrating, but keep on message - hope and change, right? :-)

[robbedvoter]

3. Well stated. Bravo!

[BOSSHOG]

4. Hey you can't talk that way to Obama supporters

You'll get them all upset and their chips will fall off their shoulders. Again. And again. And again. High Road? We don't need no stinkin high road.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

5. What about the "cult" meme?

Do you think that's nice?

[Texas Hill Country]

8. perhaps not, but

there is indeed an evangelical element to his campaign that weirds me out a bit, but sure, that is not nice... but it does not even come close to comparing to what is said about her.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

12. Oh, it's not nice but you kinda agree with it. Gotcha.

:eyes:

Well, that pretty much ends any credibility you had.

[Texas Hill Country]

21. you can't deny

1. that his speech giving style is reminiscent of a preacher

2. that Oprah talking about "The One" doesnt have a religious overtone

there are other examples too... i read a really good article on slate about it actually. Very fair, and did not go as far as the Krugman article which I think is way too strong.

But there was a slight undertone of a messianic quality thing going on... this has become less so as time has moved on admittedly.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

23. And you can't deny some of the mean stuff about Hillary might be true, can you?

[Texas Hill Country]

28. sure, i freely admit and recognize all her weak points...

i have no problem with saying that she is not the most likeable person in the world, that she is incredibly ambitious, that she is a fighter, that she even pushes limits... but I also like those things about her.

she has proven for 35 years that she cares about the things I care about... for 35 years she has fought for womens rights, childrens right, minority rights, healthcare, and the poor.

Politics is not a nice game, it is not friendly, it is not congenial and it is not a game with rules. It is a viscious and continuous fight for the things you want to accomplish...

so do i want Mr. Nice Guy or Ms. "Bitch" (as she is called by her detractors) with basically the same agenda?

I want the latter and I will pick her every time.

[mrreowwr_kittty]

31. She spent most of those 35 years as a corporate lawyer and a schmoozing social climber.

Marion Wright Edelman, who was her mentor at the Children's Defense Fund, has since denounced the Clintons for the welfare reform that hurt thousands of children.

Also, it's not like Obama was sitting on his ass the past few decades. Why don't you look up his record as a community organizer in Chicago?

[dchill]

19. "there is indeed an evangelical element"

There is? Hmmm... Maybe you mean all that hope-mongering. Other than that, I don't see it.

[Phillycat]

6. Hard to understand something that isn't rational.

It's a dichotomy that is completely denied by Obama supporters, yet couldn't be more obvious to everyone else.

[Saturday]

7. The way they talk is Hillary's fault. LOL nt

[blm]

11. For all who think Bushes are evil why do you support the Clintons who have protected Bushes more

than any of you care to admit?

And why do you all WANT that protection of the Bushes continued into the next decade?

[dchill]

20. Bushes & Clintons...

Now there's a political "relationship" that ought to "creep out" anyone with a rational mind. It's indefensible.

[tishaLA]

13. I think I have walked the walk

but you may disagree. I agree with you about calling her a bitch, although I do think we are overinvested in that word...it lets us just use different terminology to call women a bitch without typing it.

I also think people have said much worse things about Sen Obama than that he is naive or inexperienced. The worst thing we can do AS DEMOCRATS and/or people who support progressive values is to harm anyone who is our potential nominee. Both sides are guilty of this, but I really believe that Sen Clinton's campaign, more than her supporters, is far more guilty of this than anyone in the Obama camp.

[Texas Hill Country]

15. I am just going on what i have seen on here in the last 3 days

but regardless, the negativity is coming from the Obama people on here at a much greater volume and, I would suspect, in strength.

[tishaLA]

26. in fairness, in the last 3 days

we have had the NAFTA revelations from Canada. The comparisons to Ken Starr. The "I'm ready, John McCain is ready, Sen Obama has a speech." And on and on.

It's been some underhanded dealing that crosses the threshold for a lot of people, even those of us who don't become automatic ids when we get behind the keyboard.

[SIMPLYB1980]

14. Off to the greatest.

[Bluerthanblue]

16. the garbage that is thrown at Hillary here, is thrown by

individuals who have no tangible connection to Obama-

I don't endorse the rude childish name calling- and cannot excuse it.
Calling Hillary out on her personal behaviour, and inconsistencies, including her flattering McCain while disparaging Obama is bound to bring some pretty un-flattering comparisons upon her own head.

Hillary's campaign called Obama "Ken Starr"- because Obama said he was going to press her to produce her IRS statements, and explain just what "experience" she claims to possess, that somehow make her so 'ready'. Kenneth Starr???? give me a break-!!!


"The most the Clintonites say is that Obama is naive and inexperienced, or at worst... hey, whats up with this Rezko thing

you are either in complete denial, or very disingenuous.

peace~

[Texas Hill Country]

24. I have only been on here for 3 or 4 days, just reporting what I have seen in that time.

[dchill]

17. Please, don't even start...

Opening with talk about a "high road" - you really should know better. I reject all dishonest, lying tactics, but don't mind if someone is called out for using them. It's obvious that Clinton's list of this kind of crap is far longer than Obama's. I don't think that in the face of recent events, Obama will benefit by not responding to these attacks, and yes, responding in kind, if necessary. This is unfortunate, but we know who started it - Hillary's students of Rove.

Please don't think that at this point any Obama supporter should "walk the walk" as prescribed by Hillary Clinton. What a cynical joke.

[Texas Hill Country]

22. Call out all you want, but do it with civility.

[dchill]

35. Civility?

What part of my post is uncivil? I think that you may be projecting.

[cali]

18. oh please. There's equally vile stuff from both sides

so forget the victim pile of crap. It won't sell. And I don't support him because of hope or any of that. What a lie it is to say that sweet little Clinton supporters don't do it. I've seen them call him every name in the book and a fair number have been tombstoned for outright racism. Clintonians have called him corrupt, a crook, compared him endlessly to Jim Jones and even Hitler and Mussolini. I hate onesided bullshit.

[LaurenG]

A small percentage of his supporters are rabid and hateful

as are a small percentage of Clinton supporters. It's all just cruelty based on the fear that the opposing candidate will win, in my opinion. Well that and some people feel it's fair to smack others down viciously rather than ignore them.

It needs to stop on BOTH sides.

[Vinca]

25. I was pretty civilized until the "cult" business started.

Hillary supporters have been as nasty as nasty can be. Finally I've said to hell with the high road.

[Saturday]

27. Some of the biggest offenders don't recognize themselves.

They are right here on this thread pretending the mirror has no reflection.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

29. Just how much do you think Michelle Obama hates white people?

:rofl:

[OzarkDem]

30. They're hurting his campaign

so let them keep it up. Its making him look bad as well.

[Catherine Vincent]

33. You'll never understand them.

Btw, I love the Texas hill country. :hi:

[ecstatic]

34. I personally am not pure and never claimed to be

When someone acts a certain way, they should be called on it. Period. I don't believe in the turn the other cheek crap.

[krkaufman]

36. Yes, that's the "worst" that is levied against Obama

I'm surprised I can even read posts by Clinton supporters without sunglasses, given the holy radiance emanating from their posts.

It's laughable to think that lowly supporters would sit back and express no angst or feelings when one Democratic candidate is throwing-in with the Republicans.

Truly laughable.