Fuck any rightwing asshole who's jumping for joy over Spitzer's ordeal & that includes Olbermann

[mtnsnake]

Olbermann reminds me of a mirror image of Rush Limbaugh the way he jumps all over one of our own before all the details are even in.

If Spitzer is guilty as charged, then he royally fucked up, but Olbermann just couldn't wait to beat everyone to the punch in pointing out what a hypocrite Spitzer is and blah blah blah with his little panel of goofballs (except the one guy pictured on the left).

I don't know about you, but I'm sick over this Spitzer ordeal. Me and all of my fellow New York Democrats were so proud of this guy the way he stormed in and took back the Governorship for all of us here in NY. I posted last year how I thought Spitzer was going to be a future Democratic president for sure. Now it looks like it's all down the tubes because of Spitzer's incredulous fuck-up.

This is really a nightmare and I hope that I'm not really posting right now and that I wake up and Spitzer's good name will still be intact in the morning.

It's just sickening. What's also sickening is how any so-called Democrats could take such pleasure in seeing Spitzer go down in flames, post after post after post. I don't understand how any Democrat can take pleasure in this.

This is a real bad day for Democrats, and if you're jumping for joy over the Spitzer tragedy, then you simply aren't a Democrat AFAIC.

[JI7]

1. maybe the people jumping for joy are those Spitzer has prosecuted for prostitution

involvement.

[xchrom]

2. olberman's into prostitutes. i did not know that.

[JI7]

4. i wouldn't be surprised if he was

but at least he didn't go prosecute people for it the way Spitzer did. so i can understand why people who got in trouble for this under Spitzer would be laughing at him.

[hueyshort]

110. Spitzer went after WallStreet corruption, and he fought for

environmental interests. He was a great attorney general.
I wish the guy writing this thread would list just a few of the things Spitzer did.
I would, but have to go to work now.

[Carolina]

188. exactly, it's called hypocrisy

[akbacchus_BC]

3. I agree with you, it is a bad day for Democrats. I looked at MSNBC and kept saying NOOOOOOO, this is

not real. Gosh, Governor Spitzer fought for everything that is progressive. Pretty sad but am still hoping it is not all bad. Peace

[JoFerret]

183. A bad day. But a good one for your gloating. Hmmmm

Pause for thought there folks.

[Exilednight]

5. I find it sad that Spitzer did this, but he needs to resign. Hopefully someone just as good as...

Elliot will come along and take over the Governorship for Democrats.

[scheming daemons]

6. "If Spitzer is guilty..." .dude, he CONFESSED today in a press conference....

Other than that, I'm not happy about what this does to Democrats.... except for this:


A) The new NY Governor will be the first black governor of NY and the first BLIND governor in the country's history. That's a pretty cool side effect.


B) Olbermann is the best thing to happen in the MSM since right-wing talk radio took off in the '90s. It's equal time... and the only reason you don't like him is because he's seen through the Hillary facade and you aren't emotionally ready to deal with that yet.


Please quit talking about "Spitzer's good name". He is an embarrassment to the party... and he HAS no "good name" any more.

[anamandujano]

7. First, first, first, who gives a flying f*ck about this history crap.

you :dunce:

[Redstone]

35. I do. "Firsts" are significant. Sorry if you don't like that idea...

no, I'm not sorry. Your hostility is inexplicable.

Redstone

[mtnsnake]

12. Stop with your usual bullshit. He did NOT confess. Show me a link if he did

Olbermann is the best thing to happen in the MSM since right-wing talk radio took off in the '90s. It's equal time... and the only reason you don't like him is because he's seen through the Hillary facade and you aren't emotionally ready to deal with that yet.

You're the last person on earth who should be talking about someone else being emotionally unprepared. LMAO!!!!

BTW, I'll be waiting for you to come up with the link that shows where Spitzer confessed, Bigmouth.

[scheming daemons]

29. Here you go.... his words....

“I have acted in a way that violates my obligation to my family and violates my or any sense of right or wrong. I apologize first and most importantly to my family. I apologize to the public to whom I promised better. I have disappointed and failed to live up to the standard I expected of myself. I must now dedicate some time to regain the trust of my family.”


This statement was in response to the charge that he paid a prostitute for sex.


If you are charged with paying a prostitute for sex, and you answer that you have "acted in a way that violates my obligation to my family", you are admitting you did it.

[mtnsnake]

43. You are just being silly now. In no way did he confess to anything like you said

He apologized for unspecified personal actions. He made NO confession, and you can't show me any link to any confession because one does not exist. Maybe a confession will happen, maybe it won't, but that remains to be seen.

[eilen]

192. He doesn't have to confess, they have him on tape

and have an informant who was directly involved (ie the prostitute). They have his cellphone text messages. It is pretty cut and dried.

[snooper2]

222. Is the package delivered?

$4300 dollars...


Yeah, he's fucking busted...it's a shame but that's what happens when you fuck around....

[Warren Stupidity]

204. You are taking a very wide stance on this. nt.

[NDambi]

145. Sounds like a confession to me...lol

[mtnsnake]

146. Of course it would to you...and to every other Obama cultist, as well. n/t

[NDambi]

200. Hey, he gets what he deserves....no one forced him to take his pen and write

outside his marriage with a prostitute! Too bad for his family, they have to suffer the ridicule and embarrassment because he couldn't control himself!! They are the real victims...but not him, not ever!

He danced and he got burned (no pun intended) hmmm!

Poor, Poor, Poor Spitzer, had a job and couldn't keep it...and why? Because he couldn't control himself!

Direct your anger and barbs at him...that's where it belongs! Btw, I'm not a cultists, I'm a realist and Spitzer getting nailed is as real as it gets, pretty much like Hillary being behind and not being able to catch up!

[Carolina]

189. you are right ;

it's a convoluted way of saying: guilty as charged.

[smartvoter]

37. "I have disappointed and failed to live up to the standard...

“...I expected of myself,” said the 48-year-old father of three teenage girls. “I must now dedicate some time to regain the trust of my family.”

Perhaps anger in this matter is better directed at Spitzer.

[mtnsnake]

56. That's a confession?

Suuuuuure

[scheming daemons]

60. YES! Accused of paying a prostitute for sex, and response is "I apologize first and foremost to ..

...my family"...

That's an admission.

There was no "I didn't do this, and I will fight to preserve my good name."


There was only... "I apologize to my family". What was he apologizing for?



Come on... you're not that dense.

[smartvoter]

Why don't you tell us what it is. nt

[Hepburn]

76. ...

"I have acted in a way that violates my obligations to my family and that violates my or any sense of right and wrong," said the Democratic governor and father of three daughters. "I apologize first and most importantly to my family. I apologize to the public whom I promised better."

http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-stspit0311,0,2330333.story

[Honeycombe8]

55. Well, not really. He said he's sorry, and he didn't deny it, but stopped short of confessing. nt

[scheming daemons]

64. Accused of sex with prostitute. In response, offers an apology. That's an admission of guilt.

To say otherwise is spinning in a ridiculous fashion.


People don't apologize for crimes they didn't commit.

[Hepburn]

80. Soooooooooooo....

...if he did not do this, can you post a link to his denial?

[Catherine Vincent]

8. I'm not even in New York and even I had high hopes for Spitzer.

:(

[akbacchus_BC]

11. Am not even in the US and I supported him totally. I don't think he is involved in any 'prostitution

ring'. Most likely, he was an adulturer and I hope this blows over. Not that I agree with anyone being an adulterer. I just cannot see a Dem being involved in anything nefarious. Let's just hope the talking heads are way over their assumptions!

[bullwinkle428]

73. The wording pissed me off - "involved in a prostitution ring"...

does that mean that if I (completely hypothetically, of course) bought a few little Ziploc half-sandwich sized bags of "tree" from the skateboard punk with the dreads that hangs out at the park, am I suddenly "involved in a drug ring"? :mad:

[akbacchus_BC]

139. I do not think the Governor is involved in anything like a 'prostitution ring', it is faux noise

that is making such a big deal. Come on, faux noise will do anything to bring a Dem down. Am still not buying

[mtnsnake]

14. Thanks cat_girl

Yeah, it's a tough one to stomach for sure.

I'm not at all surprised, though, how excited so many of the posters on DU are today over this wonderful news for them about Spitzer. I'm sure many of them will be celebrating tonight about it and watching all the action on FOX News after they log off from their computers.

[myrna minx]

Me too.

I thought he'd make a great AG for the US. :-(

[McCamy Taylor]

9. Bush DOJ does nothing except sting Democrats. Did NSA use AT&T to get the phone info?

Only thing KO cared about was that Spitzer is a Hillary Super Delegate. Not that this is the umpteeth time the Bush DOJ has targeted a rising star Dem politician in some sting for a victimless crime.

KO has Obama on the brain lately.

[TheZug]

10. Hey, you know, it's too bad, but prostitution is illegal, and he's a hypocrite.

You don't go around making your name busting up prostitution rings and then start dipping your wick yourself.

And let's face it: we all had a lot of fun with Larry Craig.

Bottom line: don't want to get caught doing crimes? Don't commit crimes.

[akbacchus_BC]

13. There is no evidence he is/was involved. What happened to being innocent

until proven guilty. He was an advocate against that, and suddenly he is going against his principles, don't think so. Just let us wait and see. He is not guilty as yet!

[mtnsnake]

No kidding. Poster #6 is already celebrating & lying about Spitzer. Unbelievable

It's hard to believe anyone would come on a Democratic posting board, of all places, and say Spitzer already confessed to some crime. Then again, it's hard to believe that half the people here are really Democrats.

[scheming daemons]

33. His words.... he admitted to at least being a "client"... come on, you're not that dense....

[Ileanasouza]

157. Don't forget, there are freepers among us n/t

[Thepricebreaker]

163. Is that like being Client #9?

[proud2BlibKansan]

193. It's hard to believe anyone here would hate KO

[anigbrowl]

28. It's pretty obvious he was a client

You don't go issuing public apologies if you're clean as whistle.

And no, I have not been celebrating over it. I don't think it affects Hillary, but I'm sure they're frantically double-checking their contribution lists right now and hoping they don't have any $ from the defendants.

[akbacchus_BC]

51. Please do not throw him under the bus as not all the facts are readily available.

I do not think he is any effing 'prostitution ring'. If he strayed, then that is personal and as much as I disagree with that, I could sympathise. Why you all keep thinking he did something so bad? He did a world of good and one small digress and now he is being crucified. Who terms us judgementals?

[anigbrowl]

78. Let me explain it to you (seriously)

It's not the fact that he got laid outside of his marriage. It's not even the fact that he apparently paid for it - and let's face it, when they have him on tape and he holds a press conference to apologize, it's pretty obvious that he was a customer.

It's not even the fact that prostitution is illegal. I don't believe it should be, or that it's morally bad. Cheating on your spouse is bad, but it's not the electorate's business. None of that is the problem.

It's the fact that in 2004, as attorney general, he busted a high-end prostitution ring that was operating out of Staten Island and put 16 or 18 people in jail. At the time he told the court that while it was a very sophisticated operation and run just like a real company etc., at bottom it was nothing more than a prostitution ring. It was part of his image as a moral crusader against all kinds of fraud and vice. And that squeaky-clean image helped him get elected as governor.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C01E1D91438F93BA35757C0A9629C8B63

Now he turns out to have been a patron of the very same sort of business he denounced and prosecuted when he was AG. That's about as hypocritical as you can get.

I hope, for his sake, that his extramarital activities are pretty recent. If he turns out to be a long-time client of this service, eg going back to when he was AG, then it might turn out that he was prosecuting one escort business while using the services of another, and then he'd come up on a raft of corruption charges.

[akbacchus_BC]

86. You know, I do not think even Gov Spitzer would be so silly, given all that he has done. Let's just

wait for him to speak before crucifying him. Sorry folks, the Republicans have done so much shit over the past 7 years that even if this Governor is screwing an individual, that really does not bother me. Too much more important issues to address. Am sorry for his wife but women cheat too, not that am excusing him but I am pretty much sure he will not join a ring that he busted up.

[anigbrowl]

156. Jeepers. Get with reality already.

Call us back when you're past the state of denial.

[TheZug]

42. Um, didn't he say he was involved?

[whopis01]

236. It is only a presumption granted by the legal system. People are not held to it. n/t

[MagsDem]

15. KO has turned into a complete and total ASSH*OLE

[Blue-Jay]

17. Why?

Because he doesn't seem to have the same candidate-fervor as you? THAT makes a person an "ASSH*OLE"?

(asshoole? asshiule? assheole?)

[Hoof Hearted]

77. He worked his way up to asshole, actually. I noticed his shows featuring more and more bimbo and

celeb sex and gossip, and the sexist bent he took there some time ago, and I was put off, but I kept with it.

I noticed an increasing number of "funny" video clips that involved the joy of watching terror, pain, anxiety and injuries of animals, wild and domestic. I was really offended at that shit, and started changing the channel then when I saw it.

When he became an outright HRC hater and a fluffer for Obama, the entire network fell off my remote control. NOVA, NGO, PBS, History Channel, the basket-weaving channel - any would provide a more mature level of discourse.

ASSSSssssssssss Hooolllllllllllllllle!

[wpelb]

120. So is he going to be on the top10 list? n/t

[rodeodance]

180. He is morphing slowly into into being like like the pundits on msnbc. Not good!

[akbacchus_BC]

19. Beg to differ. KO is my idol. CNN is the shit ass station there. KO is not the whole of MSN, there

are lots of other reporters on there. KO is a liberal democratic. Stop shutting down the progressive voices, then faux news will serve America well like dumbing down America.

[hisownpetard]

52. KO rules!

No two ways about it.

[akbacchus_BC]

59. KO does, I just love his programmes. We have a good news network here .. CBC, but i also like

Colbert and Jon Stewart. I just love those shows. I know it is primary season in the US and sentiments are running high. I have learnt a lot by lurking on here but finally signed up and started posting.

[hisownpetard]

89. Good for you. Buckle your life-vest - and welcome aboard!

[akbacchus_BC]

108. Thank you, I'll take any welcome. But am not ready to shove a Dem under the bus without tangily info

n/t

[JoFerret]

85. No longer. Too bad

He has flipped out.
Back to sports for you kiddo.

There are so few sane voices on TV. Bill Moyers?

[mtnsnake]

20. Ain't that the cold hard truth. Add "hate-filled" to his resume, too.

[akbacchus_BC]

23. So KO is the enemy? Wow, I have seen it all on here!

[mtnsnake]

26. When you turn on your own, it doesn't make you a friend.

[scheming daemons]

36. He didn't turn on "his own".... Hillary is not part of "our own" anymore....

[Thepricebreaker]

164. Cha-CHING!

[proud2BlibKansan]

187. She never was n/t

[akbacchus_BC]

38. I am backing both Senators, said that from Day 1. Both will be

better than a republican president. You must have forgotten. I'd vote for either one. Please do not beat me up. Am with you not against you!

[JoFerret]

87. You can keep him. KO and Imus - twins

Maybe we need to see a calmer way to discuss even outrage.

[akbacchus_BC]

91. Hey, I'll keep KO anyday. And your point is? You get to keep faux noise!

[Patsy Stone]

138. Did I miss Keith calling someone a nappy headed ho?

Twins? :eyes:

[JoFerret]

184. Is that the only attribute of Imus you know? That one detail?

Is so then I think you might also think that those words were intemperate and poor judgment. the hurtful harmful words of a shock jock doing his stuff.
All the blowhards are "twins". (It's why Colbert's schtick works so effectively.)
Mouthing of outrage is easy. Sometimes it's aimed at a target that seems justified - BushCo. But perhaps all this noise and rant and blather about ANY topic merely serve to coarsen the discourse.
KO has had some good rants. Tearing at Hillary is not admirable. And ripping Spitzer WITH Hillary is actually indefensible.
KO is no friends of democrats nor democracy and no friend of civil discourse. he will wind up self destruction by becoming the very thing he abhors.

[Patsy Stone]

202. Keith is no friend of civil discourse?

So, when he says something about someone you don't like it's justified, but when he says something about someone you do like he's a blowhard? Okay.

Did you miss the show where he apologized for Shuster's remarks about Hillary and Chelsea? Was he on your shit list then?

I know a lot about Imus, but comparing the two was extreme, and you know it. It was done for dramatic effect and it was a bad analogy.

I don't agree with everything he says, but that's not a pre-requisite for me. I like to hear all points of view.

The fact that an upstanding man is accused of involvement in a criminal act is news. Hillary losing her "inevitability" to a relative unknown is news.

ed: clarity.

[proud2BlibKansan]

191. Imus - nappy headed hos

KO - special comments condemning bush.

Yep, twins alright!!

I will be soooo glad when this damn election is over and you Hillary apologists fade off into the sunset or wherever it is you end up going.

[Ukelezebra]

34. pro-Obama biased has blinded Olbermann and made him partial

He used to not take sides. It\'s sad.

[hisownpetard]

54. Ridiculous tripe.

[akbacchus_BC]

67. Bullshit. KO is one of the most progressive newscaster who tells the truth and calls out the Bush

administration. Sorry, read and listen some more!

[Patsy Stone]

140. The news is the news.

Sorry if you think the Hillary implosion and the Obama explosion aren't worth covering.

[rodeodance]

181. Agree. He has been a major disappointment last several weeks

[proud2BlibKansan]

196. You must not watch the same Keith I do

He has always sided with progressives. The problem lately is that Hillary is not progressive. She is also running a nasty campaign. Keith is calling her on it. I would expect nothing less from him.

[MrMickeysMom]

93. Like Billy Jack...

...sometimes he just goes... BIZZZERK

really, I think sometimes the hipocracy puts him over the edge. It's right in line with what goes on here a lot, when you think about it...

Fortunately, I've given this place a break BECAUSE of what it's turned into here.

Peace, Love, Dove, en at...

[Fox Mulder]

103. You know...

just when I realise your posts can't get any dumber, *POOF*, you outdo yourself.

[femrap]

16. The Anti-Choice people have their fingers

in this. Spitzer was supposed to give a speech today about the new law proposed in NY for Choice if Roe is overturned by the SCOTUS. The Catholic Church was very pissed at him for this.

How could Spitzer be so damn dumb? I wonder who introduced him to this high class brothel???? Could be a set-up??? But if he fell for it, he has no one to blame but himself. Everyone has a weakness.

KO is a HO for MSNBC and GE!

[akbacchus_BC]

112. Wow, KO is a HO for MSNBC. Heheh, you can now type black language ...

what an effin crock. Olbermann has always been neutral and effing best journalist I ever came across on the US side. Keep spouting crap, it will do you no good! This hate is unbelievable. Do you all hate each other so much?

[femrap]

238. No, we just hate those northerners who

spout crap all the effing time at us.

All journalists are 100% pure and live by their consciences. :sarcasm: If you hadn't noticed, our Free Press is long gone. It's now owned by 5 ugly, rich white guys who control 80% of it.

So when Immelt or Zucker says jump, KO will jump. I guess you're not familiar with working in US multinational corporations, are you?


Oh, and here in the States, we are allowed to like or dislike whomever we want...and we can even voice that like or dislike.

You have a problem with blacks?

[robbedvoter]

18. I don't remember Abramoff's prostitution ring exciting Ko as much....nor DU-ers

for that matter. It was mentioned, but sans the orgasms...Go figure :shrug:

[mtnsnake]

24. For some, including KO, it's partly about their hatred for Hillary & that she was Spitzer's friend

so they'll go so far as throwing one of their own to the wolves if it means it could hurt Hillary in some remote way. For DU'ers, it's either about their hatred for Hillary and her being in the same state as her friend, Spitzer, or it's because they're not really Democrats and they're just creaming their jeans that a Democrat might be getting busted.

[scheming daemons]

41. "was"? Is she no longer his friend? Has she denounced him now?

Are you saying she turned her back on a friend in his time of need?

[Name removed]

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[scheming daemons]

96. Yeah... I've visited "HillaryIs44.org"... you have no room to talk when it comes to "pitching swill"

[Tellurian]

178. Do more than visit... try reading the verified and valid links posted there..

you won't find the ad hominum unsubstantiated BS as you post here.

pooh flinger!

[akbacchus_BC]

109. Gosh, pot calling kettle black! Why don't you post something

intelligent rather than insult? It gets wearisome after a short while. Tell me something nice about 'your girl'! Am all ears

[mtnsnake]

118. FYI, Tellurian has posted some of the most supportive threads on behalf of Hillary

in the history of this forum, so either you weren't around for them or you didn't pay any attention to them.

[akbacchus_BC]

125. Guess I was not around, sorry! However, that poster could never ever be neutral, it hates Obama with

a vengeance. I seldom pay attention to haters! So my bad!

[Auntie Bush]

65. I think that's the whole reason...It's about their hatred for Hillary.

You hit the nail on the head. He supported Hillary so that makes him the enemy...doesn't matter that he's a fellow Democrat. I can't believe some people can be so hateful. They jump at every opportunity to badmouth anyone who supports Hillary.

[Carolina]

194. many of us, long term Dems, have learned that

everyone with a D beside their name isn't a Dem.

As for Spitzer, Dem or no, he was a fool and has shown himself to another hypocrite.

Sadly, I am starting to feel that all pols are shit after they drink from the cup of power.

[akbacchus_BC]

88. You sound like a very intelligent person and am sure you are, I have no idea

but that is crap you are spouting. We all are sorry that this shit happened to Gov Spitzer. Could not believe my eyes this morning. I kept thinking Dems are so above board, only the rethugs would keep fucking up! Nobody is revelling in this breaking news, nobody!

[akbacchus_BC]

117. You know, you are really going off the deep end and it is pathetic...

I have not seen one Obama supporter saying anything negative about Gov Spitzer. For the most part, every dem is shocked at this development but you keep stoking the fire. Why? Do you really hate Obama that much? Gosh, hate is despicable, one must have to have a strong stamina to hate some one as much as you do!

[Name removed]

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[akbacchus_BC]

127. Wow, you are so intelligent, I could cry! Guess there is nothing else to say,

just cannot get into that gutter with you, sorry!

[JoFerret]

182. That is really CRAZY stuff. They deserve McCain

....and if they keep up this they will surely get him.

Trouble is - they deserve McCain. The rest of us don't.

[samdogmom]

21. Give. Me. A. Break!

You can't claim this nonsense! We have a major endorser of Hillary who is a major hypocrite and Obama supporters who want clean government and not more of the "same old/same old" aren't allowed to point out this fact????

Thanks, a lot! But, I'll celebrate my victories where I find them! And, Hillary needs to go, by the way!

[akbacchus_BC]

30. May I ask you to take that with a grain of salt? Nothing has been proved

against Governor Spitzer. Just hang in there and it does not matter that he endorsed Senator Clinton. Please, just for the Dem party, wait until you hear the real news. We all know that faux news just waiting to bring a Dem down, don't aid that newsgroup!

Us people outside of America is counting on you Americans to make the right choice this time. The world is holding its breath. Obama would unite the world but Senator Clinton is not a bad choice. By the way, I am backing Senator Obama, sent him money, that is all I can do. But please fellow democratcs, just unite. We are counting on you. And for those who say that a 17 year old is too young, that is BS, I was 12 when I started following politics!

[Bake]

46. Nice post, Farrakhan.

What's the saying about "glass houses?"

Bake

[mtnsnake]

214. LOL

[Carolina]

195. totally agree

[theHandpuppet]

22. Right on, mtnsnake!

You said it!!!!!!!!

:thumbsup:

There's so much vicious and eager trashing of fellow Democrats in this place I sometimes wonder if I've wandered into Free Republic.

[mtnsnake]

31. I wonder the same thing all the time, Handpuppet

This is like Free Republic magnified 10X over.

[ProSense]

25. "This is a real bad day for Democrats," and it's Spitzer's fault!

He needs to resign and let the controversy fizzle.

[mtnsnake]

27. Did I say it wasn't his fault?

[KAZ]

44. Well, you're screaming at KO.

Disconnect much?

[akbacchus_BC]

74. Don't beat him up yet ProSense. Am pretty sure that he advocated for the Dem party.

Don't throw him under the bus just yet. Wait until he says that he is guilty.

[ProSense]

32. Clinton declines comment on Spitzer

Clinton declines comment on Spitzer

By BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer 53 minutes ago

SCRANTON, Pa. - Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton carefully sidestepped questions Monday about the sex scandal engulfing Eliot Spitzer, her home state governor and political ally.

"I don't have any comment on that. Obviously I am sending my best wishes and thoughts to the governor and to his family," Clinton said, opening her first campaign swing through Pennsylvania, which holds its presidential primary April 22.

Spitzer apologized Monday after he was accused of paying for sex with a high-priced call girl. Authorities say he was caught on a federal wiretap arranging a tryst with the woman at a Washington hotel room.

It was a blow to Clinton, who recently had intensified her criticism of rival Barack Obama's relationship with Antoin "Tony" Rezko, a political patron on trial in federal court in Obama's hometown of Chicago for alleged fraud and corruption.

While not personally close, Clinton and Spitzer have been friendly colleagues since the former first lady first ran for the Senate in New York in 2000. Her aides said Clinton deeply respected Spitzer's work during his two terms as state attorney general, where he became a national crusader against corporate corruption and Wall Street investment excesses.

more

Get used to this.

[IndianaGreen]

126. Hillary is waiting for the results of polling and focus groups before saying anything

Moral compass and conviction are not in Hillary's lexicon.

[mtnsnake]

129. Leave it to someone from Green Underground to crucify Hillary for something she wasnt involved in

Why am I not surprised?

Shouldn't you be passing out leaflets on behalf of Nader?

[akbacchus_BC]

137. No, he does not need to pass out leaflets. But on the other hand, you are a whino. I have tried

supporting you but all you have is effing negativity. Gosh, what is wrong with Senator Clintons supporters? Everybody on here who do not fall in line is the enemy. Fuck that!

[Greyskye]

229. don't let it get you down

You've been dealing with some of the 'hard-core' Hillary supporters, who allow no dissent in their ranks. :eyes: I've been on DU since 2001, and this is the nastiest I've ever seen it here. This primary season is the first time I've used the dreaded 'ignore' feature - purely in an attempt to keep the signal to noise ratio at a bearable level.

Hopefully, the silly season will end in a few months, and we can get back to the real business at hand.

[IndianaGreen]

239. Leave it to someone from the psychotic Hiilaryis44 to say something asinine

Are you now campaigning for Nader, or expecting to do so when the Monster is finally put to pasture in Denver?

[Carolina]

197. touche

if the shoe were on the other foot and Spitzer and Obama were political friends, HRC would be cackling to the rafters

[CTLawGuy]

39. I feel the same way about

Hillary supporters who won't vote for the Democratic nominee if it is Obama.

[MadBadger]

40. He fuckin confessed today. And Spitzer IS a fucking hyporcrite

[mtnsnake]

48. Just like the other bullshitter, you cant show me a link to any confession because there is none

[MadBadger]

50. Then whats he fuckin apologizing for?

Do you who Jason Giambi is btw?

[akbacchus_BC]

133. Hi, I saw the clip earlier today. He was just saying sorry but not apologising

for anything. The whole spiel is not out yet and I hope people on here will reserve their condemnation of the Gov. I felt so sorry for his wife, though! Am just hoping he is not involved and am keeping my fingers crossed. Dems rarely do stupid things except for one ....

[MadBadger]

135. If he didnt do anything, then why is he sorry?

[akbacchus_BC]

144. Maybe because he was under pressure to say something. I refuse

to believe a dem like Gov Spitzer would do anything to hurt the party. That is just me, probably naive. But if it is true am so disappointed! But please do not judge him before the facts are out. Dems are so much better than republicans. By the way, why the annihilation of republicans, aren't they Americans too?

[Carolina]

198. saying you're sorry IS apologizing!

He's a former big time prosecutor who knows he's on tape, who knows he's been busted. I don't revel in it but he never denied anything and he wouldn't take any questions whereby he could further hurt himself. And sadly, after 40 years a supporting Dems, I can say unequivocally that they are not immune from doing stupid things.

[Warren Stupidity]

205. "He was just saying sorry but not apologising "

Sometimes I really can't figure out if the bullshit here is deliberate or if the posters are really either that stupid or that much in denial as to actually believe the crap they post. Congratulations on writing one of the stupidest posts I have ever seen on DU.

[WinkyDink]

79. Spitzer the lawyer is saying only the minimal to buy deal time.

[Carolina]

199. Exactly!

[spoony]

185. Yes, but who isn't?

I get what you're saying, and I'm not letting him off the hook here, because hypocrisy should be called out. But it's also a part of the human experience. Honestly, I don't trust anyone who isn't a hypocrite because it says to me that they either don't set high ideals or they never fail to meet them.

[LeftyMom]

45. "incredulous"?

I know it's the internet and nobody cares about accuracy, but can we please stop dry fucking the language? Thank you.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/incredulous

[Greyskye]

230. 'dry fucking the language'

:rofl:

I hope I get to shake your hand at the Sacto meet-up.

:rofl:

[Drachasor]

47. Ehh, I watched Countdown and...

I didn't see Olbermann jumping for joy. It was a provocative and surprising bit of news, however.

[Honeycombe8]

57. Ditto. I didn't see Olbermann jumping for joy. He pointed out the hypocrisy. nt

[akbacchus_BC]

82. Ditto to that. I have never seen Olbermann jumping for joy against a Dem candidate. He is just

neutral and if the US did not have him, the country would be listening to faux noise. Thank goodness for Keith! I just love him and have always wondered how come he is still able to stay on MSNBC as opposed to get shut down!

[akbacchus_BC]

158. Olbermann was not jumping for joy. I think he fell just like us Demos, He was sort of disappointed

but no way would he be condemning a Dem Governor. That is what I love most about him. Downright neutral and above board. We need more KO's if you ask me!

[Shakespeare]

49. I call bullshit RE your Olbermann statement.

I'm watching it right now on my DVR--he's not jumping for joy or taking any pleasure whatsoever.

[mtnsnake]

53. Olbermann all but condemned him as guilty but good for you if you like Olbermann's spin n/t

[Shakespeare]

66. No, he most certainly did not.

He reported the story, period.

[mtnsnake]

131. self delete

[akbacchus_BC]

94. OMG, Olbermann did not condemn Gov Spitzer! He was just reporting the news. Sheesh, this

divisiveness is so unbecoming. Seems as though a reporter has to now kowtow to a candidate! That's sick! Bring back good reporting

[akbacchus_BC]

159. Must you always be so messed up? Come on, this primary is taking its toll on your nerves, but quiet

down and do not insult us. We playing nice so far as we know you cannot play nice, but don't keep insulting us. In the end, we all have to vote for the Dem nominee. Gosh, you going effing overboard to attack us!

[Rowdyboy]

58. Pleasure? No, but rage, plenty of rage at Spitzer, not Olberman....

Its not Olberman's fault that Spitzer fucked the duck. His arrogance has destroyed the hopes and dreams of thousands who actually trusted him and believed he was a straight up guy. Insteasd, he was apparently laundering money to transport high-prices whores across state lines. What an asshole.

Yeah its sickening, but don't bitch about the messenger. The fault for this fiasco lies squarely on the shoulders of Eliot Spitzer. May he resign in disgrace tomorrow.

on edit: I'm one of the ones who REALLY believed in him and had tremendous hopes. Thats why I'm so furious.

[Greyskye]

231. Spitzer fucked the duck?

No wonder he used a service. That's just fowl!


















:hide:

[elixir]

61. Shame on anyone deriving anything but regret from this issue. It's sad for Spitzer, his family and

the public. Let's hope this is settled swiftly and fairly.

[mtnsnake]

63. Amen to that, elixir.

:thumbsup:

[seabeyond]

71. how could you say it is sad for spitzer. he made the choices that let down

his family, and the voters that helped him and the dem party that counted on him to do his job in integrity. fuckin.... not sad for spitzer. shame on spitzer. i dont get this criminal, doing something illegal, presently himself beyond the upstanding citizen being the one getting sympathy.

i am not understanding these posts. and it has nothing to do with hillary or what side of the primary a person is on. hillary isnt responsible for htis man any more than wife, dems, voters.... he betrayed all...

[akbacchus_BC]

122. I guess it is quite ok for men to cheat! Too bad the ones who thinks it is ok probably never had to

endure that. No matter how much a woman is confident, etc., when her spouse cheats on her, it is very devastating. Am not condemning the Governor, am still waiting for the full disclosure. But it is pathethic to see women on here thinking it is no big deal for a husband to cheat!

[Jed Dilligan]

113. Sorry, but when any tough prosecutor gets caught with his pants down,

the schadenfreude is irresistible to me.

http://www.observer.com/2008/spitzer-v-simmons

Russell Simmons went on NY1 News last night to announce his support of Barack Obama for president, and took the opportunity to attack Eliot Spitzer for not doing more on Simmons’ pet issue: reforming prison sentences for drug offenders.

Today in Genesseo, Spitzer responded to a reporter’s question about the criticism.

Spitzer said, “We are trying to come up with something that will be reasoned and that will maintain safety. People should not forget we have seen a dramatic decline in crime over the years in New York State. And that is because, I can say this as a Prosecutor, we prosecute crimes and we are tough. We lock up those who are guilty. So we have to be very measured and reasoned in what we do and we will be.”

[seabeyond]

62. deep breath. i understand much better why you are taking it so hard. personal investment. reality

it is not oldermans or anyone elses fault this man is in this position and reaping humiliation. the man earned it. and if it is to the point you are saying, on the news on olderman, i am going ot conclude they have enough information to be able to behave that extreme. for this man to do something as outlandish as to particpate in a prostitute ring is outrageous. absurd. a man representing himself as the top dog of a very big city, suppose to be respected, fine citizen ... all that garbage and instead he is what.... helping a prostitute ring.

cause dems are point finger laughing at him, ridiculing him does not make them less dem. personally i dont believe in attacking anyone or ridiculing people and even i see how this man set himself up for it.

what i am for is individual responsibility. stop blaming everyone else. they are not the guilty, responsible party. it is the man who made the choices he did

i am sorry the man you were proud of and invested you time and energy and hope on has disappointed you

and to me that is the greatest sin the man committed. with his family and voters who were there for him and he failed miserably

[mtnsnake]

75. I agree it's not Olbermans fault what Spitzer allegedly did. And thank you for your post

You are right about how I feel. As a New Yorker I had higher hopes for Spitzer's future than just about any other Democrat in a long time. It's a hard one to take. Olbermann's biased journalism has nothing to do with feeling sick over the Spitzer thing. I would have been just as disappointed about what happened if Olbermann's show didn't exist.

i am sorry the man you were proud of and invested you time and energy and hope on has disappointed you

That pretty much sums it up. Thanks again for posting. Finding reasonable posts like yours are like finding a needle in a haystack around here.

[akbacchus_BC]

174. How the hell could it be anybody's fault but Spitzer's? Are you entitled to think that Oberlmann

supernaturally makes corrupt politicians behave corrupt. Gosh, this is a new low. We are now into being psychics. Can I make you into Boy George?

[Hepburn]

68. What do you mean, "If Spitzer is guilty..."?

He confessed, admitted what he had done and apologized. There is NO question that he is guilty.

Why would you question if he is quilty of these charges? Sad day for us progressives. I always thought that Spitzer was a good guy...but there is no use in denying the charges against him.

[akbacchus_BC]

175. I was devastated today when I saw the news. I always loved Gov Spitzer, I am just hoping that when

the chips are down, he is not into any 'ring' but just a bad judgement of character to associate himself with someone who was just using her resources to make a living. I so want this to blow over, he is a good Governor, fought for the same thing that he is being accused of !

[elixir]

69. Alan Dershowitz on CNN now. Says the Mann Act which was used to catch

Spitzer hasn't been used in many, many years and is very unusual - appears to be a political opponent that would use this to catch Spitzer. Dershowitz says it would be a lower class (2?) misdemeanor if the Mann Act wasn't used.

He's really tearing this thing up! Fact remains he fought prostitution and he's hoisted on his own petard. Too bad.

[Tellurian]

90. Maybe it was a setup...

Give it a few days.

[MrMickeysMom]

97. It's too bizzare not to consider that...

All I kept saying to myself was, "HOW could you even THINK of doing that? Paying for a 15 yr old to come across state lines to get laid? Come on... He wasn't THAT stupid, was he?

[Greyskye]

232. 15 year old? WTF?

Where the hell did that come from? Let's not make this even worse then it already is, by throwing out allegations like this. I just checked in case I'd missed anything overnight, but I see nothing in this story involving underage individuals.

[johnnydrama]

70. so what's he apologizing for

What's Spitzer apologing to his family for? For being wrongly accused?

You don't apologize to your family on national TV if you did nothing wrong.

you go on national TV and say "I did nothing wrong"

[WinkyDink]

72. It IS a tragedy, in the Greek sense: The fall of a man in a high position through an internal flaw.

One must feel pity, but one must also, to achieve catharsis, see justice done.

But Spitzer's "apology" offers no catharsis. Hence, there is no pity.

However, the "L&O" script is being written as we type!

[Colobo]

81. Dude, Spitzer is a hypocrite. Going after prostitution rings and being a clien of one.

He got what he deserved, and he's a shame for our party.

[apocalypsehow]

95. Oh, but that's different: he's a supporter of HRC, don't ya know? Nothing he does/says deserves

the slightest bit of scrutiny, as long as he's firmly in the Clinton's corner...

:sarcasm:

[mtnsnake]

98. He is what he is. That is true, but he doesn't need Dems jumping all over him YET, Katz.

By Dems, I'm talking about posters on this board. I haven't heard too many Democrats in the real world as ready to condemn Spitzer like what's happening on this board. I don't mean that you're one of the ones condemning him, either, but plenty are, and all the details aren't even in yet.

[akbacchus_BC]

107. Katz, I don't think so. Please wait for the whole story to be aired. No point dissing a Dem when ..

the whole story is not out. The benefit of the doubt is much more preferred. For goodness sake, he is a good Dem. Does one transgression means he is so bad? Am pretty sure he is not into any 'prostitution ring', he fought against that, remember. Gosh, lighten up you all!

[Pablooscar]

83. Today, Olbermann was called one of the 'dumbest, least honest" by a progressive analyst

Olbermann invited Obama hack Eugene Richardson to his show and together, they mocked Hillary Clinton for believing that some states are electorally more important than others. Somerby responded:

Could it be because two million Democrats voted in Ohio last week—and roughly ten thousand did so in Wyoming? (Next month, Pennsylvania will almost surely have a turnout comparable to Ohio’s.) Could it be because Pennsylvania has been a large-electoral-vote swing state in the last two elections—and because Wyoming will vote for McCain?

It's a must-read:

http://dailyhowler.com/dh031008.shtml

[mtnsnake]

101. This is off topic, but Olbermann is even spinning the latest SNL skit as anti-Hillary

just because the skit portrayed Obama as the President who was calling Hillary (still Senator) on the phone. The reality is that the skit portrayed Obama as completely clueless, yet Olbermann spins it the other way. Figure that.

[akbacchus_BC]

121. You really need to take a time off from DU, you are not making any sense anymore.

It is very sad when some of Senator Clinton's supporters are going totally delusional. I asked you before, tell me one nice thing about your Senator. Let me tell you why I dislke her, her IWR vote. A woman voting to invade and occupy a country. Have you ever met a person from Iraq? Let me tell you, Iraq was very progressive until your boy president and his war mongerers decided it was time to invade and occupy. Some of you Hilary supporters need to take a breather and get with the real world!

[Name removed]

136. Deleted sub-thread

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Swamp Rat]

102. It's 'Eugene Robinson' you stupid freeptard.

Have you signed up again for a third time today?

[24areas]

104. Wow, Eugene Robinson was schooled

I read the article. Very interesting how Pennsylvania and Ohio were proved to be more important than Wyoming, despite Robinson claiming otherwise.

It's kinda obvious.

[Swamp Rat]

106. HAHAHAHA!!!!!! Damn! Mods are QUICK tonight!!!!!

They traced your ISP you idiot. :D

[hueyshort]

115. Olberman STINKS

he's just thinking about ratings, and how Repugs will watch
him shoot off his dumb mouth if he bashes Clinton.
thanks for the link.

[akbacchus_BC]

130. Olberman stinks? Any link to effing back that up? You stink

Some of you eggheads just come on here to spout bs, now spout more bs. You stink!

[Beregond2]

92. Spitzer

Speaking as someone who never heard of Eliot Spitzer before today, I think you are all overestimating the importance of this. So a Democratic governor hired a hooker; yawn. He'll resign, be replaced with someone else, and who will even remember or care next year?

[MrMickeysMom]

100. You're right...

you don't know Spitzer, and if you think this is an overestimation, you might want to read a bit more about this guy who is the Governor of NY and superdelegate.

[Medusa]

99. Sex scandals will also get the media

happy. they like sex scandals. I guess Colbert, Jon Stewart and everyone else who reported on this today are right-wingers? :shrug:

[bilgewaterbill]

105. Which one of the hookers was named Joy?

[akbacchus_BC]

149. Me, Joy oh Joy!

[bilgewaterbill]

154. $5500 per hour Joy? I'm honored! And curious!

;-)

[akbacchus_BC]

171. Nooooooo, am a cheap Obama whore, LOL

[hueyshort]

111. Dude, you need to list some of the great things Spitzer did

as state attorney general. I gotta rush off to work, or would help you out.

[Swamp Rat]

114. Say 'hi' to Karl for me... arf!

:hi:

[proud2BlibKansan]

116. You didn't watch Olberman tonight, did you?

He wasn't jumping for joy.

He also isn't a right wing asshole.

[wpelb]

119. This is a real bad day for Americans

"This is a real bad day for Democrats, and if you're jumping for joy over the Spitzer tragedy, then you simply aren't a Democrat AFAIC."

We should expect all of them, including Democrats, Republicans, Communists, Socialists, Libertarians, Greens, whatever to maintain a high standard of personal behavior and decorum. All too often, though, we let them get away with their little peccadilloes, until their behaviors come back to bite them--and us.

:(

[IndianaGreen]

124. How many friends does Spitzer has within the NY Democratic Party?

I can't think of any! And that was before his karma caught up to him.

Your bitching about Olbermann, it couldn't possibly be related to the fact that he refuses to worship at the feet of Hillary, the Queen of Lies, does it?

[mtnsnake]

134. How's that Nader campaign going for ya? (snicker)

[IndianaGreen]

240. Is your mother still walking the streets for a living?

:thumbsdown:

[mtnsnake]

241. Yeah she's doing well at it. How about you? Lonely out there? (snicker)

Still hoping to get an offer from some 2-bit slob, are ya?

[akbacchus_BC]

147. When the journalists do not have a fetish towards Senator Clinton, they are being degraded on here.

For me, I prefer good news and kudos to journalists who do not kowtow to candidates but report the real news. This nominee race is really dividing the party and I so wish it could be over soon. The Dems need to win back the White House, McCain is not a viable option, more wars! Who wants more wars?

[Beacool]

128. I'm more shocked and saddened than angry.

Ican't believe that he would do something sooooooo stupid. How did he think that he could get away with it and no one would find out??? Around here they're already announcing tat he will resign tomorrow.

I can't understand this board, so many people jumped with glee at this man's downfall mainly because he endorsed Hillary. Frankly, this place is beyond becoming a cesspool, it already is.............

:scared:

[walldude]

142. Can you guys please show me this thread where

people are celebrating, so I can go there and tell them what assholes they are.

[Beacool]

150. I glanced at a few earlier when I was still at work.

I don't know if they have been removed or not, I certainly wasn't looking for them again.

[mtnsnake]

152. Don't even bother. You could link right to the posts and they'd still deny it.

[fujiyama]

132. I didn't watch Olberman

but remember, his show isn't really straight news. It's commentary, mixed with comedy. And a politician getting caught in a scandal involving prostitution is great fodder for talk show hosts and comedians. That doesn't necessarily make them "right wingers".

However, I find this whole thing sad. Spitzer was a politician seemingly of great integrity and toughness. He busted cheats, scammers, crooks, and criminals. He was tough on white collar crime, which was rare and it earned him a lot of rich and powerful enemies. He had a seemingly bright future in Democratic politics...and I remember his name being floated around for VP or presidential candidate in a future presidential election.

I don't see how this is good for anyone. He's obviously disgraced himself by making an INCREDIBLY stupid mistake. Sex scandals involving a consensual affair is one thing, but prostitution?

Then again, Spitzer looks to have a lot more dignity and decency than scum like David Vitter. That piece of shit is hanging on still....

[walldude]

141. I was going to ask you to show me a single person

that's "jumping for joy" over Spitzer's "ordeal". But it seem that anyone remotely disagreeing with you is considered to be "jumping for joy". I am personally not "jumping for joy" I'm fucking pissed as hell at the lack of judgment, the hypocrisy and the abhorrent behavior of one of our own. I realize that what he said does not amount to a confession to you but that's what it was. When you are accused of something, you don't apologize for it if you are innocent, you deny it. I'll give him that much, at least he was more honorable than any fucking republican who got busted, fessed up, took it "like a man". The reason that he didn't admit to what he did is there have been no criminal charges filed yet, and apparently there is more to this than just a night with a hooker. If he admitted what he did it's as good as pleading guilty in court. If he's not sure what they have him on then it's best he keep quiet.

[NDambi]

143. eh F'em

[Lord Helmet]

148. christalmighty you are one cranky dude

[mtnsnake]

151. Dam right. I was a huge Spitzer fan before all hell broke loose today

Tough shit if you don't like it.

[Lord Helmet]

153. hey what's not to like?

[mtnsnake]

155. One pill wont do it tonight

Tonight is a 10 pill night.

[akbacchus_BC]

160. Please do not overdose yourself! And I do not give a rat's ass about your insults.

You are a hater not a unifer, so get lost!

[mtnsnake]

215. Was I talking to you, repuke breath?

Stay off the candy tonight, will ya?

Jesus H Christ thank gawd the all the other Canadians who post on this board aren't such fucking losers like you.

[akbacchus_BC]

161. So just because all hell broke loose tonight, you not supporting

Gov Spitzer? What does that mean, he already guilty according to you. Man, you Senator Hillary fans are so gullible! He is still innocent untill proven guilty!

[LVjinx]

162. And many of those "assholes" are celebrating right here on DU as we speak.

[akbacchus_BC]

177. which assholes? Do enlighten me? As far as I know, most Dems are sad about this!

Assholes like you are a dime a fucking dozen! Get lost

[Thepricebreaker]

165. Wow you must be LOVELY to talk to in the morning before your coffee... omg.. TAKE YOUR MEDS! Jeeze..

[Unsane]

166. Don't fucking tell me what to do. Dems need to cut bait with Spitzer,

who is now apparently using his office as a bargaining chip with prosecutors. The guy is slime.

[akbacchus_BC]

168. Don't you think the Dems should cut him some slack? After all, it is not like he did something

fundamentally wrong. He is not guilty as yet. Still innocent. He is a Dem for crying out loud! Sorry, I believe in loyalty but not blind loyalty. He is not guilty as yet!

[Unsane]

169. Didn't do something fundamentally wrong? Tell his wife and kids that

I usually don't care about this stuff. But it is politically stupid to try and resuscitate this guy. CUT BAIT

[akbacchus_BC]

173. Gosh, am sorry too, but I really liked him. Just never expected that he would succumb to this shit,

am not gonna beat up on him, am just disappointed. Just when we thought our dems were beyond reproach, this shit comes to light. Am just devastated to say it mildly. Such a good guy, who could have been a future President of the US, had to go fuck up, seldom uses that word, but gosh, he did mess up if what the faux noise is claiming! Am still holding out that he is innocent!

[mtnsnake]

207. I didnt tell you or any other douchebag what to do. Where did I tell you what to do?

Wipe your fucking goggles off next time you try to read a post.

[Awsi Dooger]

167. I thought Olbermann was very tame regarding Spitzer

He didn't even lead off with that topic, unlike virtually every other program. He predictably chose to bash Hillary, on the issue of primary states vs. caucus. When he got around to Spitzer he emphasized it wasn't even the worst gov scandal in that part of the country recently, referring to McGreevey. Naturally he couldn't restrain his delight while mentioning Spitzer is a super delegate and a Hillary supporter.

I'm not an over reactive type who will ignore Countdown or overlook all the contributions Olbermann has made at MSNBC. But he hasn't threatened journalistic competence in the Hillary/Obama question. To me it's more disappointment than outrage. We finally get someone spinning in our direction then he reveals himself as runaway unfair in story selection, presentation, interviews, facial expression and tone.

If Obama supporters can't recognize that they are truly running every turn with blinders firmly attached. Larry Johnson was a frequent guest on Countdown and once praised him as this generation's Edward R. Murrow. A few days ago he commented on MyDD that he is so turned off by what Olbermann has become that he now refuses requests to appear on the program. Something like that doesn't happen minus extreme and prolonged inequity.

[akbacchus_BC]

170. What the fuck does this have to do with Obama? Sheesh, you are an idiot to relate this shit to Obama

Get effing real! Not every fucking thing is Obama's fault, you asshole!

[mtnsnake]

208. Why are you calling Awsi Dooger an asshole?? WTF is wrong with you, akbacchus_BC??

I swear, in all your 50 posts on this thread you must have about 10 different personalities.

Did you have a bunch of junior high school kids all over for a slumber party last night and all using the same identity to post? Get off the sugar, dude and promise me you won't stay up past 9:00 tonight.

[quantass]

172. Hillary/Spitzer for 2008

[akbacchus_BC]

176. That's a great ticket, I support, LOL. But it won't happen! n/t

[rodeodance]

179. I did not watch KO--but sad to see him act like that. It IS a sad day for ny, his

family--and Democrats.

[MadHound]

186. So even though this is Spitzer's fuck up, you're trying to blame everybody else for reacting to it?

Wow:wow:

Look, I'm sorry you elected a hypocrite as a governor, but the person you need to be jumping all over is Spitzer himself, not those who are reporting on this issue. And frankly, you really can't blame Olberman for pointing out the hypocrisy of a former AG who was busting prostitution rings going out as governor and using prostitution rings. Hell, that's exactly the term that went through my head yesterday afternoon when I first heard the news of Spitzer's demise.

I'm not jumping for joy over Spitzer's demise, nor am I saddened by it. To me, it's simply another politician who's gotten hoisted on his own petard. The only seriously disturbing note to this one is the fact that this information was gathered via a federal wiretap. Whose wiretap, and at whom was that wiretap aimed, the prostitution ring or Spitzer, and what were the motivations for this wiretap.

[mtnsnake]

213. Just blaming the ones who are piling on him like RW'ers before all the details are even in

Some of us Democrats have the nasty habit of making life so much easier for the Repukes because we pile on our own. How about we let the justice system find him guilty FIRST...before we crucify the guy.

[MadHound]

235. You know this is getting to be a tiresome tactic

Comparing those who disagree with you to RWers. Really now, what is the point? If you have an honest disagreement with me, fine, throw it out there and we can deal with it. But to come out and start smearing me with RWer comparisons is beyond the pale, and should be beneath you. But apparently that's not the case with you, you'd rather go for the personal attack rather than honestly discuss a matter.

As far as letting the justice system finding him guilty, you know as well as I do that johns generally aren't prosecuted. However it looks like Spitzer is already taking care of the matter himself, since he all but admitted to the deed yesterday, and looks to be on the verge of resigning today. Pretty big admission of guilt if you ask me.

[michaz]

190. My best friend knew him and worked on his campaign. She says this is not the person she

new at all! But then again, do we really know anyone? I also, am a New Yorker and just simply so discouraged and disappointed with this. I felt that we had a real good guy finally to head this state, which we really needed. I am going to wait and see how this plays out. I feel bad for his wife and children, but then again, that is their personal business to deal with. I will hold judgment on the criminal charges, if there are any. If there are, then that is our business and I guess it will have to be dealt with.

[mcscajun]

201. I've heard already from one RW jerk who relates that "He destroyed

a lot of lives" on Wall Street. I know the news reports say many on Wall Street cheered when the news broke...Schadenfreude was running rampant.

I know he built his AG rep in NYS in large measure going after Wall Street crimes and excesses, but can anyone tell me who (or What) he "destroyed"?

I've been out of the Wall Street loop for about 5 years now. :shrug:

Personally, I had a high opinion of Spitzer, even writing to him a couple of years ago to applaud his actions (I used to live in NYS, but haven't for nearly 20 years) after he took on those slimy bastards that put out the WTC commemorative coin with "silver recovered from Ground Zero". It's sad to see this happening.

[mtnsnake]

209. Very sad to see what has happened to him, indeed...and to his constituents

who had so much faith in him and hope for his future.

I thought this guy would coast to a future presidency. Ya just never know anymore.

[Warren Stupidity]

203. Spitzer is a hypocritical asshole and your post is bullshit.

Spitzer built his career partly by going after the same sort of high end prostitution rings that it seems he made a habit of using the services of. I have a problem with that and so should you. Inferring that anyone who has spoken out about what a fucking idiot (pun intended) Spitzer is is a rightwing asshole is just flamebait,

[mtnsnake]

210. Hey Warren if my post is bullshit then I guess you and I have lots in common (snicker)

[madinmaryland]

206. WOW. Just WOW...

Pretty much sums this thread up.

[Greyskye]

233. You left out the flames and the flesh eating zombies

[IndianaJones]

211. Olbermann is like Limbaugh in that he recognized an idiotic audience that loves to hear...

them parrot talking points over and over. Olbermann honed these skills on Sports Center...highlight television. They are both "journalists" in the same vein, although I think Limbaugh can probably speak off the cuff better than Olbermann, who seems lost if its not scripted for him.

[paulk]

212. this is a disaster for both the Democratic Party

and New York State.

Spitzer is one of the good guys. I can't understand why anyone would be pleased by any of this...

[mtnsnake]

220. Yes it really is and I can't understand why anyone is pleased by it either

especially on what's supposed to be a Democratic *cough cough* board. All you had to do to see how fucked up this place is was read some of the posts yesterday clearly showing how people would rather pile on Spitzer than give him an iota of support. I could understand it if all the details were in, but nothing is even official and the whiners are all pouncing on this Democratic Governor of NY as if he's rightwing scum.

If Spitzer is guilty of what they're rumoring on TV, will I be mad at him? Dam right I will because he let me down, but in the meantime, I can't believe how quickly Democrats are willing to eat their own, at least on this bizarro fucked up message board anyhow. What a cesspool this place is. I'll bet the rightwing boards aren't even this nuts over Spitzer as DU is.

[redqueen]

216. Olbermann was jumping for joy?

I did do a little jig, myself... I didn't know you could see me though. Sorry.

[txaslftist]

217. Feh.

A hyperzealous, judgmental, unforgiving and merciless prosecutor gets caught frequenting whores. This is a guy who used his power in office to put people out of business without ever charging them with crimes. I hope he gets prosecuted to the full extent he would have prosecuted someone he'd caught doing the same thing.

You think stormin' Spitzer would have been satisfied with a mere resignation, fine or probation? Now the shoe is on the other foot and I hope he gets the ass-kicking he has coming, Democrat or no.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

218. Kieth the new Rush

[rateyes]

226. Who is Kieth? Is he related to Keith? nt

[Ordr]

227. Kieth the new Rush

I agree with you. Their agendas may be different but it is ONLY their agendas that they follow.

[Jennicut]

219. Spitzer has blown it for the Dems in New York by doing this

He needs to resign. Spitzer was supposed to clean up NY. He did good things in the past but know any attempt to do something good in NY was thrown away by unzippering his pants for a high paid hooker of all things. I dislike Rethugs but dislike hypocrisy even more. I am not jumping for joy over this, I am pissed at Spitzer for blowing everything. I'm from Connecticut where John Roland had to resign over political corruption. Jodie Rell took over and although she's a Rethug she was much better than Roland and is very popular. Look at Corzine in New Jersey. He took over for McCreavey. Perhaps if Patterson takes over it will turn out to be a good thing. No matter what the sole blame for what happened yesterday is with Spitzer, he's the one who broke the law (even if its a dumb one. He is the one who went after call girl rings and then turned around a slept with one. It was a boneheaded move and he has no one to blame but himself.

[Independent-Voter]

221. The OP can go fuck himself. Spitzer's "ordeal" is totally self-induced

He should have had his shit together, period.

[mtnsnake]

223. Maybe you can whine to your idol Limbaugh about it ya little troll twit

I'll bet you're trying to get through to Limbaugh's phone line right now aren't you?

[Independent-Voter]

224. Fuck you as well. Spitzer is making the Democrats look like idiots when you defend him

[mtnsnake]

225. You already told me that. What is it with you trolls? Short attention span or what? lol

[krkaufman]

228. Spitzer has already admitted to the basics ...

... in that he allowed his sexual urges to overcome what he knew to be the correct course of action. As a Democrat, and someone who also had thought Spitzer was a boon to the Democratic Party and its image, Spitzer is now an embarrassment and I don't appreciate his putting his dick ahead of the party and the country. The Democrats don't need the public being reminded of past deceits, this election year.

Spitzer, as a public figure, now warrants the same ironic derision that every randy politician receives when they're caught-up in such a sex scandal. And, as a private citizen, he deserves our prayers and wishes that he and his family can get through this intact and, over time, heal.

[GoldieAZ49]

234. he is getting his 'comeuppance' right now - term used all over the news

I don't feel sorry for the guy, if you piss off a bunch of people with arrogance of course they are going to be glad to see you brought down and though no fault but his own.

Yeah he had a bright political future on the national stage, but he committed political suicide. oh well.

[WDIM]

237. Just legalize prostitution.

Then these rich guys don't have to worry about breaking laws!

[Bright Eyes]

242. Yeah, Olbermann is so terrible!

I bet you think he's a member of the Vast Left-Wing Media.

[Roland99]

243. oh puh-fucking-leeze

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