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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:40 PM
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fear of a black white house?
Are we really at this point in the party? I mean, maybe Ferraro didn't have anything better to do, but do we really need the scorched earth policy in the primary?
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OzarkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:41 PM
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1. No, its fear of a woman in the WH
and the perception by Obama that losing to a woman would somehow be emasculating.
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Levgreee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:42 PM
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2. I've never seen a quality post from you... time for ignore
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NJSecularist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:51 PM
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20. Me either.
And I second that motion for ignore. He/She is unbearable.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:43 PM
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3. where did Ferraro address emasculation?
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:43 PM
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4. Are you sure it's not racism against white people?
:rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:47 PM
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:48 PM
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16. And what does a Clinton rally look like?
Are there lots of native robes and headgarments?
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:10 PM
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23. Total ass.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:45 PM
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6. Yep, a distinct possibility..
Obama's wife does a pretty good job of emasculating him in his homelife. When he loses the nomination is when it will totally hit him.
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Blue-Jay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:47 PM
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10. Who the fuck are you?
And what the fuck do you think you know about Obama's home life?

Disgusting post.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:47 PM
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14. He's one of those people who think...
Edited on Tue Mar-11-08 05:49 PM by Bornaginhooligan
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:50 PM
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18. Yep, and those Chicago assholes just keep reconfirming that statement!
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:11 PM
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24. Another Hillary supporter who is a total ass.
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Johnny__Motown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:46 PM
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7. But we voted the "co-presidency" of the Clintons in, so it can't be that
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gabeana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:46 PM
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8. there you go again baiter
EXIT Polls from Ohio, the 20% that said race was important 75% voted for clinton, the 20% that said gender was important 60% for Hillary, So Hillary was 2 for 2. She won the racist vote and the sexist vote. No way will I put you on ignore, you are just to entertaining, my mom used to say when someone makes an ass out of them selfs just stand back and watch.:rofl:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:46 PM
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9. ...
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Yeah that's what it is. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:33 PM
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27. Hey,
that really racist post of yours in another thread finally got deleted.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:44 PM
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5. Did you ever consider the fact that it has nothing to do with the person's
skin color or gender?

Could it be that deep down inside everyone knows that NONE of the candidates are the best choice to fix this country?

In reality, there isn't a decent one in the bunch.

Either of the Dems will be better than Bush, but that bar is very low. I'm not excited about any of them, and I wonder how so many can have set such low expectations for the next President. :shrug:
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:47 PM
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12. been there, got that t-shirt.
:) I voted Nader in 96 and 00, so yes, I understand your point. My OP is less about my (weak) support for Obama over Clinton than about the need to race-bait in the primary.
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Elidor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:01 PM
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21. So YOU'RE THE ONE who voted for Nader!
I always wondered who it was. :D

Not sure why Ferraro went there, it was pretty tacky. Clinton sure has been cursed with a lot of advocates who've stepped over the line of decency. I mean, I'm sure it's not a coordinated campaign thing. It's just a coincidence. As far as I know.
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:07 PM
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22. ROFL - yes, it was me.
:D

As far as I know.

:rofl:
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:47 PM
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13. Have you ever noticed how, at the mere mention of race, Americans turn into morons?
Really, if anything can be said to unite us as a people, it is this: the second the obsessive topic of race comes up, all Americans--black, white, yellow, and brown--men and women--old and young--all of us turn into a doddering batch of mewling, retarded nincompoops incapable of expressing an original thought.

I loathe you humans.

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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:48 PM
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15. I have.
It's kind of sickening.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:50 PM
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17. Is who at this point? The Clinton campaign? Yes, apparently so.
Flailing has turned into something even worse... I don't even know what to call it.

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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 05:51 PM
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19. don't know what to call it - "ugly as fuck" comes to mind.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:12 PM
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25. Well, uly, that's what I predicted way back when
You and I both recall 2004 and how heated it got. It seemed pretty obvious to me that this primary would devolve into claims and counter-claims of racism and sexism. Hell, discussions of Joe Lieberman STILL invite claims of anti-semitism.

I must say, however, that I didn't quite (almost, but not quite) foresee a Geraldine Ferraro coming forward and claiming that "Obama is only succeeding because of a bunch of ni__er-lovers." (Yes, that's how it sounds to me. I heard that kind of 'thinking' a lot in my life.)

Neither Clinton nor Obama are my first, second, or third choices of the original candidates. I've made no bones about favoring Kucinich all the way to a possible write-in. For me, it's about their political values and positions ... and their track records affirming those values and positions. If Kucinich were black, or female, or both ... it'd only enhance my support for him.

The Clinton campaign and the Vichy Wing of the Democratic Party have taken their "scorched earth" strategy to new extremes. The larger political extortion has come from the conservative wing of the Democratic Party for decades ... all akin to the woman claiming before Solomon to be the mother of the baby who was willing to see it cut in half. It's way beyond strange that they don't regard Obama as "centrist" enough. It's about an appetite for POWER ... and burning the house down if evicted.

After all, their threats to vote GOP if the Dem candidate isn't adequately conservative is TWICE AS potent as the leftist threat to vote Nader or Green. Combined with the vitriol aimed at the "leftists," the strategy has bee clear for many years.

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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:19 PM
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26. if only we could recommend individual posts.
The Clinton campaign and the Vichy Wing of the Democratic Party have taken their "scorched earth" strategy to new extremes. The larger political extortion has come from the conservative wing of the Democratic Party for decades ... all akin to the woman claiming before Solomon to be the mother of the baby who was willing to see it cut in half. It's way beyond strange that they don't regard Obama as "centrist" enough. It's about an appetite for POWER ... and burning the house down if evicted.

After all, their threats to vote GOP if the Dem candidate isn't adequately conservative is TWICE AS potent as the leftist threat to vote Nader or Green. Combined with the vitriol aimed at the "leftists," the strategy has bee clear for many years.


Not just yes, but hells yes.
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-11-08 06:38 PM
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28. Great Post TN But What Else Is New?
Thanks for shedding some light in this thread. :hi:
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