Hillary's failsafe: Racists

[George_Bonanza]

Hillary has three main ways in which she can secure the nomination:

1) Influence the superdelegates to back her no matter what the pledged delegate and popular vote counts are

2) Have FL and MI seated as is in order to give her a big pledged delegate boost (since a revote would most likely end in a split delegate decision due to Obama being allowed to campaign this time, as well as have his name on the ballot)

3) Rely on a late racist break away from Obama and towards herself, particularly in big states like Pennsylvania and North Carolina

Out of these 3 paths, #3 is the "fairest" and "cleanest" since they don't involve breaking any rules (other than moral ones). And I think Geraldine Ferraro has been selfless enough to become Hillary's suicide bomber in an attempt to break down Obama's tower of racial unity. I think Wisconsin settled all the questions about Obama's racial appeal. Unfortunately, the great enlightened state of Ohio raised the racial spectre once again, and now, Hillary knows it's her only legitimate shot at breaking down Obama. Hence, you got Geraldine Ferraro clearly trying to race-bait Obama, and incite more moronically incendiary language from the likes of Jesse Jackson Jr. to try and scare Whites into a Black takeover of the White House. I swear, I'll kill the first dumb Black blowhard who rants against Whites or White women, because that's EXACTLY what Hillary wants to happen. She trots out this relic of White women's empowerment, and is just aching for some Black loose cannon to take a bite. God, I hope some restraint is shown by the Obama surrogates.

Blacks do not just vote for Blacks: look at Al Sharpton. And Blacks voting for the first viable Black candidate in American history is not the same kind of "racism" that occurs when Whites vote against the first viable Black candidate mostly because of race.

[TwilightGardener]

1. Yep--that's what they're shooting for, without a doubt. Gotta pit

the blacks against the older white ladies. Sickening. Hillary Clinton is the worst thing to happen to the Democratic party since her husband's pants problem.

[Umbram]

2. The racists now have a voice on DU

With a few of Hillary's supporters actively defending racism, I guess the party is taking a turn for the worse.

[meow mix]

7. they use code phrases like "i dont trust him"

they are pretty easy to spot

[BlueStater]

12. So anyone who doesn't trust Mr. "Hope" is racist

You guys have truly lost your minds.

[against all enemies]

33. One referred to Obama as "boy", disgusting group of supporters for Hillary.

[ProgressIn2008]

40. WTH, trust Obama or else you're a racist? Good grief.

[earthlover]

27. And doing it in the name of gender equality....

Forgetting, for awhile, millions of Obama supporters are also women.

[AZBlue]

39. I am SICKENED by the number of racists here on DU.

They've obviously been under cover here, but this has exposed them for what they are.

[styersc]

3. OK, I get it. Enlightened people vote Obama, Racists vote HC!!!

[ChimpersMcSmirkers]

6. I doubt many racist are voting for a african-american

[styersc]

8. Calif., Ohio, Texas, Massachusettes- all racists.

I'm so glad Obama came on the scene to identify all these bigots.

[jackson_dem]

10. Yup, and New York too

Even though Massachusetts is one of two states with a minority governor (the other is Louisana. Obamites claimed whites in LA were racist because he got something like 30% white support, even though whites there voted for a minority for governor) and New York will probably soon have become the third state with a minority governor.

[Spider Jerusalem]

15. You've never been to South Boston, have you?

Or Bakersfield. Or East Texas. Or rural Ohio. Plenty of racists in all those places; to suggest there aren't is just ignorance.

[styersc]

22. Rush Limbaugh is right- the Democrats are the true racists.

Now Obama has come to save us. He truly is the Messiah.

[Spider Jerusalem]

24. Completely ignore what I'm saying...righto.

No point in responding to you further, I see.

[jackson_dem]

9. Obama is getting 85-90% black support. Race has nothing to do with it?

That is as naive as saying Hillary isn't getting some white votes based on race and that both candidates aren't getting some votes based on sexism.

[NorthernSpy]

20. Ferraro's ticket got over 90% of the black vote in 1984...

More than twice the percentage of the white female vote, and almost three times the percentage of the white male vote they received.


But she's forgotten that. It means nothing to her, the crazy race-baiting old bat.

[jackson_dem]

21. What was Ronald Reagan's NAACP rating?

The same as Mondale? Both Obama and Clinton have 100% NAACP ratings, Edwards had a 97% rating. Yet Obama gets 85-90% black support and Edwards got 1% in South Carolina after getting 37% in 2004.

You are right. Ferraro, like Hillary, has gotten votes due to gender. Just like at their numbers among white women. However, the same holds true for Obama and race. Just ask John Edwards who only tied among white males while getting killed among women and blacks. He refused to play the identity politics game and look at where it got him.

[earthlover]

31. Obama has appealed to a lot more Americans than AA's!

Look at the percentage of the US population that are AA. Look at the percentage of the Democratic Party that are AA. Yes, Obama has received a lion's share of the AA vote (keep in mind, however, Hillary was leading in the AA polls until it became obvious Obama was a contender). However he also has turned on the youth, independents, and even cross over Republicans. If it was just AAs, he would never have been a contender.

So you have to see that there is more to Obama's appeal than his race. Something that Ferrarro refused to see or accept. All she saw was the color of his skin. What she missed was the strength of his character.

[Lerkfish]

32. well, it certainly would explain the strategy

going by their campaign, it would appear clinton's folks are counting on a racial backlash. There have been over a dozen, well placed references throughout the campaign.

Personally, I wouldn't characterize Clinton supporters as racists at all, but they DO seem to be reaching out to racists for some reason.

care to explain what that reason is?

[Splinter Cell]

45. Yup

Pretty much.

[Fovea]

4. Of the three

only number two seems even remotely likely to work. Relying on a racist break seems problematic as most actual racists are sexist (or TradFem enablers of sexists) as well.

[jackson_dem]

5. Obama gets 85-90% black support. Hill gets 60% white support and Obamites call them racist

This is another reason why Obama would be a weak general election candidate. You can't run around screaming racism each time the ball bounces the other way. Voters will get tired of the Obama campaign's high wire race act (play the race card to the hilt to retain 85-90% black support through the politics of smear and fear while simultaneously preserving his image of "transcending" race for whites and the few Latinos and Asians who voted for him) in the general.

You forgot to list the easiest, and ultimately probably the only realistic path she has to the nomination: winning the popular vote and having the sd's ratify the popular will--but that would get in the way of a typical Obamite post tarring and feathering Hillary as evil.

[George_Bonanza]

11. Blacks vote FOR Obama; racists vote AGAINST Blacks

Like I said, Blacks don't support any old Black candidate that comes along. You think these Obama backers would even take a look at Alan Keyes or Al Sharpton? Obama is a great candidate who happens to be Black, which is why so many Blacks are supporting him. Surely you won't begrudge Black voters for being a tad enthusiastic about the first possible Black president in American history?

[jackson_dem]

17. There aren't black racists? Louis Farrakhan anyone?

Why do you think Farrakhan endorsed Obama?

It is dishonest to claim only one candidate is getting votes due to racism, especially today when Obama will win yet another state that votes on racial lines. Funny how he wins every single state that does that. That says it all about who benefits from the race card...

The argument Obamites make is any white, Latino, or Asian who votes against Obama is a racist while Obama is getting 0 racist support, even though he is getting 85-90% black support. None of that is due to racism. Even you claim he is getting votes that he would not have but for his color. Voting against someone because of their color is racist. Both candidates are getting racist votes but Obamanation can't bring itself to acknowledge it.

Wrong. Obama was losing among blacks until he swiftboated the Clintons on race--just in time for the South Carolina primary. If he were such a "great candidate" he would not have been losing. What he did was raise doubts about the Clintons on race. Since both candidates hgave 100% NAACP ratings it makes sense for blacks to go with the one they are sure isn't racist against them. Obama has run arguably the most racist presidential campaign since Reagan in 1980. Who else would be pressuring superdelegates to support him solely because of race?

[Spider Jerusalem]

14. That's because they've been employing transparent race baiting as a campaign tactic.

[jackson_dem]

19. Yup. The race card worked wonders for the candidate who wins every state that votes on race

Like Mississippi. I predict him winning the black vote 88-12 and losing the white vote 75-25.

[Spider Jerusalem]

23. I predict that Hillary will lose the African-American vote if she gets the nomination

(which is extremely un-fucking-likely, at this point). Good luck to her in the general election without it.

[jackson_dem]

25. I doubt it but I wouldn't be surprised if McCain got 30-35% of the black vote

Which could crippled her candidacy. This is why I have to laugh at the hypocrisy of those claiming Hill is trying to sabotage Obama for stating the obvious: McCain has more experience than Obama. If anyone did something to sabotage a candidate's general election chances it is Obama via his swiftboating of the Clintons on race.

[Spider Jerusalem]

26. Swiftboating my arse

The Clintons have been using blatant race baiting tactics since South Carolina.

[jackson_dem]

35. Yeah, that is why Obama has won every state that has voted on race

Like Mississippi. :eyes: It is also why the racial flap mysteriously began just in time for the South Carolina primary, not during the previous 11 months. Who won SC on racial voting?

[MagsDem]

29. The facts would seem to support that Obama supporters are the racists

[OzarkDem]

13. Riight, Hillary is going to run a racist campaign to win

Just when I thought Obama supporters couldn't show more ignorance....

[PurityOfEssence]

16. And Louis Farrakhan would love him even if he was a Korean Jew

This is a dangerous path to go down. It's best we all stop now.

[jackson_dem]

18. This is why they are called a c____

It is blatantly obvious Obama is winning some votes that he would not have but for his color but Obamites refuse to acknowledge it.

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[kikiek]

30. Unfortunately you are right.

[XOKCowboy]

34. Don't forget Republicans for Clinton

They're turning out in droves to vote for her in the primaries.

I can't figure out why? :sarcasm:

[jackson_dem]

38. When? She lost the rethug vote in Texas and Ohio

As well as in nearly every state from Iowa to Wisconsin. You have fallen for yet another Obama machine lie.

[NJSecularist]

White racists gave her the margin of victory in Ohio

As of right now, they are giving her the margin of victory in Pennsylvania.

[TheDeathadder]

36. this whole racism point is bullshit

The Clintons have done miles and miles more for the back community in the USA and the world than Obama ever has. To link the Clintons to racism is pure bullshit.

[ecstatic]

37. Sharpton, Jackson won't take the bait. They see through the

desperation. It's up to Obama's white surrogates to condemn HRC's race baiting.

[Barack_America]

41. Screw the party, Hillary's willing to tear the whole damn country apart...

...in order to rule over its fragmented masses.

[K Gardner]

42. Exactly, Kristi. I've been feeling today like this is going way beyond party.. we're back in the

damned 1960s and Hillary is mobilizing the masses of white redneck voters and women against the black candidate. That scab, torn off, will be an ugly thing indeed.. and she doesn't care.

[Barack_America]

44. Thanks, but that was one fear I didn't exactly want to have confirmed.

:scared:

On second thought, I'm not sure I want to live in PA for the next 6 weeks.

[backscatter712]

43. Klanton needs to get the hell out of our party.

Real Democrats abhor racism, and will not tolerate it.