If Hillary JUST BLOWS OUT OBAMA in PA can she be stopped?

[Greenwood]

I am NOT talking about a 2-4 point win. I am talking about a BLOWOUT type win that really makes waves.

Look, I have said from the start that I want Hillary to win BUT WILL VOTE FOR OBAMA IF HE IS OUR NOMINEE.

However....

If Hillary can get a huge win (and the polls say she will) will her momemtum simply overwhelm and folks will see she should, ultimately, get the nomination?

[wndycty]

1. YEs, because she cannot catch him. . .

...a blow out does not change the fact that he has and will have more pledged delegates.

[Dems Will Win]

23. A blowout in PA is not possible because of Spitzer

Monica is now back and the cigar will be all over the late nights again, so Hil's chances just went up in smoke.

Better luck next time.

[islandmkl]

2. when is PA?....

time has not shown to be her friend...

[pbca]

3. No, as long as

Obama goes into the convention with the most delegates Hillary won't get the nomination and Pennsylvania is going to be alot closer than it is now.

[Medusa]

4. Of course she can be stopped

He'll still have more delegates, more popular votes, and more states heading into the convention. And now that we know from the Hill campaign that states don't count where you were expected to win, (i.e., Wyoming & Mississippi)--then PA won't really count for her. :evilgrin:

[zulchzulu]

5. Don't worry. She will be stopped after losing in PA

The more negative Hillary Clinton goes, the more and sooner her campaign is going to sink. That's all she has now.

6 weeks is an eternity in politics. Whatever lead she has now will be gone in a couple weeks.

[Labors of Hercules]

14. What kind of lead does she have now?

None. She is not ahead in delegates, the popular vote, states... nothing.

zip nada nyet nill negative niente

And she has momentum? :wtf:

[cali]

6. no the polls don't say that. They forecast that she'll win by

11 to 19 points. She needs a 25+ point blow out. Furthermore, there are 5 weeks until PA, and historically in this race, Obama has closed strong in practically every contest where she held similar or greater leads this far out. She'll win PA, but not by more than 10 and that won't be near enough. He'll win NC and IN. She can't catch him in the popular votes or pledged delegates, and her SD lead is evaporating fast. She's now only about 33 SDs ahead of him. And the SDs won't reward her with the nomination with that kind of record in the primaries.

[hogwyld]

29. NC is a pretty close race at only 8 points

I don't know what IN currently is, but worry as it fits the Ohio mold somewhat. Yeah, I know it's next to Illinois, but it seems like Hillary, is Lazarus, Jason, Michael, and Freddy all rolled into one.

[alcibiades_mystery]

7. Bookmarking (together with the "POUNDING" thread of yesterday)

Cheerio.

[Greenwood]

9. What can I say? I support Hillary and want her as President....

I will stand with others or stand alone. Does not matter to me.

[alcibiades_mystery]

18. Good job, HERO!

You're so brave, standing together or alone!!!!

:loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya: :loveya:

I hope you stretch before such embarrassing self-congratulation. Otherwise, you might - ahem - pull something...

[moondust]

8. Nice try but no cigar. .cigar. .cigar. .cigar. .cigar. ...

[LostinVA]

21. Transparent

[panader0]

10. I thought she had to win big in Texas

CNN projects that BO will garner more delegates than her there. She just keeps moving the line back. Why anyone would continue to donate to her at this point is beyond me.

[endarkenment]

28. She had to win big in Texas and Ohio to undo the loss on super

tuesday, and even that was a stretch. Now it is just a pathetic effort to spoil the front-runner. It really would be a good idea for Clinton's supporters to urge her to do the right thing.

[AtomicKitten]

11. The numbers make it virtually impossible for her to even catch up.

[TwilightGardener]

12. The entire primary boils down to the results of one state of Hillary's choosing?

I don't think so.

[ORDem]

24. Oh, didn't you hear? The people of OH want Hillary on the top of the ticket!

We should ignore the other 49 states and territories. OH knows best!
:spray:

[harun]

13. A BLOW OUT like Obama just handed her in Mississippi? (n/t)

[BumRushDaShow]

15. With the city of Philadelphia, Clinton will NEVER have any blowout.

Totally impossible. And in this case, I am not even talking about any contribution from all the colleges and universities where the student demographic is energized to vote in numbers not seen since the early '90s when Bill Clinton ran.

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

16. If she won every single delegate in PA, she would still be behind Obama

But I'm sure she would use it as another excuse to move the goalposts.

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. Momentum?

I thought the Hillary people hated the "bandwagon effect." I guess it's OK when you call it "Big Mo" for yourself. Or something. I can never quite figure out the millions of variations on the "crowd psychology" theme used by the Hillary people. I like this, though: her momemtum simply overwhelm and folks will see....

Oh, "folks will see." Well, that's good enough for me. Never mind all these elections we've had so far, and all those delegates, etc. "Folks will see." And her "momentum will SIMPLY overwhelm." Overwhelm whom? Or what? I believe "overwhelm" remains a transitive verb, so your lack of a direct object is pretty interesting. At the very least, it tells us that this "overwhelming" is not as simple as your "simply" implies.

[Exilednight]

19. A huge win would have to be 20+ points or more, anything less is futile.

[Zueda]

20. Did the Blowout in MS matter?

She is just as likely to have a blowout in PA as he did in MS.

But at this point in time he can almost let her take all 150 some delegates from PA and she would still not likely stop him from finishing with more elected delegates.

[Independent-Voter]

22. States won by 60% or more this primary season

Bottom line - Klinton ain't going to win by 65% in PA.


States & elections won with 60% or more of the vote:
Barack Obama: 15 States + DC + VI
* Virgin Islands (89.9%)
* Idaho (79%)
* Hawaii (76%)
* Alaska (75%)
* District of Columbia (75%)
* Kansas (74%)
* Washington (68%)
* Nebraska (68%)
* Minnesota (67%)
* Colorado (67%)
* Georgia (67%)
* Illinois (65%)
* Virginia (64%)
* Maryland (62%)
* North Dakota (61%)
* Wyoming (61%)
* Mississippi (61%)

Hillary Clinton: 1 State
* Arkansas (70%)

[ORDem]

25. Yeah, sure, but only one state on your list actually counts.... n/t

:rofl:

[RunningFromCongress]

26. If hillary takes PA by 65% or more, I'd say she's earned victory.

[endarkenment]

27. Don't you think she might actually need more delegates to win?

I am flabbergasted by the various scenario threads here that claim that if some symbolic milestone is accomplished then the candidate who will have the smaller number of pledged delegates at the convention is the inevitable winner. Clinton lost the race back on super tuesday and should have suspended her campaign shortly after that. Everything since then has just been damaging to our party's prospects in november.

[mtnsnake]

30. I love how the Obamawhiners always want to change the rules to suit their candidate.

Neither one can get enough of the regulay delegates to win. It goes to the Super Delegates, regardless.

[endarkenment]

31. You are officially out of your mind.

Have a nice day on whatever planet you think you inhabit.

[Kajsa]

32. It appears that neither one will have enough delegates to win

the nomination.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/campaign_rdp

The Illinois senator had 1,596 delegates to 1,484 for Clinton. It takes 2,025 to win the nomination. With neither appearing able to win enough delegates through primaries and caucuses to claim the nomination, the importance of nearly 800 elected officials and party leaders who will attend the national convention as unelected superdelegates is increasing.

So the superdelegates will decide who wins?

[truebrit71]

33. How many weeks away is that primary? More than enough time for Obama to eat into the lead...

...or enough time for the HRC campaign to just come right out and say it "America doesn't want an uppity n****** in the WhiteHouse - Vote for HRC - the only Dem the crackers will vote for" :eyes:

She will probably still win that state, but nowhere NEAR the margin she is showing now...and it STILL won't do her much good with the delegate math...

She needs to get out now before what barely remains of her battered reputation is completely destroyed by her hateful and shameful tactics...