If Hillary was a man, she would have been president in 1992

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[TwilightGardener]

1. ???

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3. She would been running instead of Bill

[TwilightGardener]

5. On the basis of what? Rose Law Firm corporate dealings?

[MADem]

13. "He" wouldn't have been in AR at all. "He" would have entered politics after serving on

the Watergate Commission. "He" wouldn't have followed his wife to fucking Arkansas. You're ignoring the unfortunate gender realities of Clinton's situation.

"His" wife, Wilhelmina Clinton Rodham, would have followed HIM to where ever HE wanted to launch HIS political career.

[TwilightGardener]

17. She chose her own path in life--whom to marry, where to live, how

to build her career. She's not a "victim" in any sense of the word.

[MADem]

24. Why the hell don't you go back and READ the fucking OP?

You know, for that thing called CONTEXT????


No one, save you, is talking about "victimization."

The scenario postulated is that she were a MAN.

If she were a MAN, her life would have been DIFFERENT.

That's fact, not "victimization."



Christ!!! It is impossible to have any discourse here.

[TwilightGardener]

26. WAHHHH!!! Sexism!!! Hillary would have been PREZNIT already if not for

her vagina!!!

[MADem]

31. You're behaving like an ass. That's not the point of the OP at all. But go ahead and play that

game. You must NEED to so do, to make yourself "feel" better.

The OP wonders what her path would have been, and how it would have been different. You feel a perverse need to turn it into a whine, to be defensive, to be angered, and exclamatory, about the woman's vagina. Which says something odd about you, certainly.

Anyone who thinks that women have had the same opportunities as men over the last five or six decades is fucking obtuse. No, STUPID. Incredibly stupid--so stupid that they'd forsake their intellectual reputation to make a pathetic, partisan, and curiously angry point.

And, of course, in denial as to the "facts on the ground" here in America at the dawn of the 21st Century.

You can play the Two Wrongs game if you'd like, no one is stopping you. There are many people in the USA who are denied "Equal Opportunity," not just women. Would that salve your wounded, angered, thought process? Go on...do it. You're quite free to so do.

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29. I'm not portrayin her as a victim

I don't even support her for the nomination.

Still, she is a very strong and intelligent person, and Bill would have not been what he is today without her by his side. She is the brains behind the family, and would have made it to the top if this country's perception of gender were different.

[TwilightGardener]

30. You're saying that being a woman held her back. I'm saying it didn't.

[LakeSamish706]

2. I doubt it... cause she would not have had any name recognition then. n/t

[MADem]

9. How do you know what she, as a HE, would have done after the Watergate job?

"He" wouldn't have ended up in Arkansas, certainly. He might have run for the House or Senate from "his" homestate of IL....

[MaineDem]

16. What name rec did Bill have before running for Governor?

Remember, things would have been different for her right out of law school. We can't compare the paths she and Bill took as we know them to what might have happened.

[MADem]

4. Even her husband says she is the smartest one in that marriage.

Could well be.

[hedgehog]

25. If she's so smart, how did she end up with him? nt

[MADem]

28. Those pheromones are something. nt

[MaineDem]

6. I totally agree with you

She would have started from a very different spot to run for office...long before now.

[Fredda Weinberg]

7. ..

[Exilednight]

8. I actually agree with you.

[goldcanyonaz]

10. Damn straight. Without her he would never have become Governor either.

She's the fighter in the family and a true champion of the people.

[scheming daemons]

11. Nobody in this country, outside of Illinois lawyer circles, would have heard of Hillary Rodham

[mtnsnake]

14. Bullshit. Hillary Clinton has EARNED the respect she currently enjoys in Congress

so enough with putting her down just because she was Bill Clinton's wife. Since his presidency she has elevated herself to where she got to all on her own.

[scheming daemons]

19. Would she have been able to run for Sen in NY in 2000 if she wasn't his wife?

Answer honestly.


She never even LIVED in NY until 2000.

[mtnsnake]

22. It's hard to say. If she was never Bill's wife, maybe she'd have been our nominee in 2000 or 04

Just because she was Mrs Bill Clinton, it doesn't mean that Hillary Rodham couldn't have become President all on her own merits. Look what she's done all on her own. If anything, maybe being married to Bill held her back from becoming President sooner.

[mtnsnake]

12. If Hillary was a man, she would've put this race away a long time ago

[RaleighNCDUer]

35. But (s)he wouldn't have the man-hating-women's vote.

How could (s)he?

[endarkenment]

15. The country was not ready for a gay president.

Not then, not now. Mr. Rodham and his husband Mr. Clinton would not have gotten to the White House.

On the other hand, this might be one of the stupidest OPs of the day, and this is a day of many massively stupid and delusional threads here in the cesspool formerly known as GDP.

I'm wondering if all the Hillary supporters posting here went stark raving bonkers we would be able to know that from the OPs they would be posting.

[Bucky]

18. beat me to it

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20. I'm not even a Hillary supporter

I just think we should recognize the realities of gender in politics in America

[MADem]

27. Well, why can't BILL be Wilhelmina? You are unable to pull the thread, apparently.

This IS an exercise in supposition, you know...or maybe you don't.

Your inability to imagine, to suppose, or to create scenarios for the sake of argument, amusement, or discussion is a heavy cross you'll have to bear.

It's only "stupid" if you don't have the capacity to participate.

[endarkenment]

33. The whole thread is stupid.

The amusement factor is mostly unintentional. For example: your post.

[MADem]

36. Well, apparently, that quality of discussion is "right up your alley." Otherwise, you wouldn't be

participating here--unless you fantastically fashion yourself the arbiter of what is appropriate, and what is not.

Stupid is as stupid does, eh?

[endarkenment]

37. I read GDP for the amusement factor only.

There is rarely anything posted here that rises above idiocy. I am indeed the fantastical fashion arbiter of what I find amusing. In fact I am the supreme and absolute authority on my opinion. I certainly concede that my posts frequently rise to the general level of idiocy displayed here, but then again I am not trying to do anything else in this cesspool of generally earnest and determined and very serious idiots.

[onenote]

21. If Barack Obama was white and born in 1947, he'd have been president in 1992

Prove I'm wrong.

[olkaz]

23. I don't see how a gay man gets past nomination in 1992.

/snark

[blm]

32. Jackson Stephens DID GROOM BOTH Clintons to protect GHWBush and their BCCI operations.

So maybe you are right.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

34. People used to say Hillary was the brains behind Bill.

I think there's enough recent evidence to show that's not true.