Obama on Cover of Time & Newsweek?

[sloppyjoe25s]

I've heard several commentators - ranging from MSNBC to CNN to Fox saying that Obama likely lands on
cover of several major news magazines next week - with HIS message of racial unity, and full analysis of his
speech driving a big spike in sales.

Question - it seems this may really shift the whole tide back to Obama's key message of unity and change...

Will todays speech, and the discussion it inspires, dominate the news cycle for the next 2 weeks?

[sloppyjoe25s]

1. Will Obama be able to keep this in the news?

Or will Hillary's stunt of releasing a silly amount of her records steal the cycle?

[MADem]

2. One guy asked...is this guy....the next CIVIL RIGHTS LEADER...or a guy running for President? NT

[loveangelc]

3. who was this one guy?

[MADem]

15. Some talking head. I don't follow that pundit shit. NT

[John Q. Citizen]

8. He's you worst nightmare, MADem. He's the next president of the US.

[MADem]

16. That's not my worst nightmare, though. But then, you're such a fucking partisan, that's how you see

the world. Which says more about you than you perhaps would reveal to those standing near you, looking into your face.

None of it terribly flattering to you, either.

Life isn't a team sport, pal. If you were a REAL "citizen" and not just a purveyor of Internet Tough Guy retorts you'd realize that.

[Kittycat]

9. Could be both - and it would be about damned time!

Someone to fight for all of us. Not just the rights of the white or black - but someone willing to take it all on. I'm not stupid enough to think he can change it all - even with our help. But I do believe he can correct the course.

[jenmito]

13. You mean the REPUBLICAN strategist Joe Watkins?

:eyes:

[MADem]

19. I dunno--I was flipping through the channels and heard that. I didn't linger.

I tire easily of assholes in a circle around a table shooting off their mouths.

We're watching an historical DVD instead.

[jenmito]

21. Well I DO know-and that's who said it. n/t`

[MADem]

26. You mean they're not all right leaning at MS GOP? Coulda fooled me! nt

[jenmito]

27. Right. Olbermann is RW? So is Matthews?

[MADem]

28. Matthews is. He thinks Bush is "manly." Tip is spinning in his grave, no doubt.

Tweety's brother ran, unsuccessfully, on the GOP ticket in Pennsylvania as the LT GOV candidate against the successful Rendell ticket.

Olbermann is just a well paid staked goat. He pulls in all the clueless lefty tigers hiding amongst the trees, who smell a delicious, easily digestible and tasty meal by a warm fire, who then innocently think that everyone else who works at General Electric's Propaganda Arm is "just like him."

They aren't. That outfit makes PENNIES for "The Company" compared to what GE pulls out of our taxpaying wallets every year, courtesy of their (many no-bid) Pentagon contracts, and their status amongst the Top Ten money earners there. MS-GOP is really, in the big scheme, just an "expense" to keep the sheep pacified and fed the "correct" talking points.

Ooooooh, but they have Keeeeeeeeeeeith!!! They MUST be liberal!!! So I'll watch MORNING JOE, too!!!! And Tweety!! And Fatboy Russert, faithfully, as well! Never mind his little greaseboard and his election predictions, and that BUSH button on the underside of his lapel....because they MUST be "like us".... they've got...Keeeeeeeeith!!!!!

They've gotten a bit more subtle since Welch has stepped back and Nachman died, but they're still interested in one thing--what's good for GENERAL ELECTRIC.

It's the Company, Over All.

Don't think for a minute they give a shit about anything else but the GE bottom line. It's what pays the bills and fills the coffers.

[jenmito]

31. That's bull. Matthews' brother is a Repub. but he is not. He is very independent and that's

clear. He's VERY much against the war, says Bush/Cheney lied to get us into the war, and was all over the Libby case, thinking Rove was guilty and so was Cheney and Libby. Get real.

[MADem]

32. Riiiight. Fred Thompson is sexy, Bush is "manly" ...here, watch and learn.

Are you going to believe your own lying eyes, or your preconceived notions?

It's apparent here that Tweety is shopping the General Electric Themes. You'd have to be BLIND not to see it:

Does have sex appeal? … Gene, do you think there’s a sex appeal for this guy, this sort of mature, older man, you know? … Can you smell the English leather on this guy, the Aqua Velva, the sort of mature man’s shaving cream, or whatever, you know, after he shaved? Do you smell that sort of — a little bit of cigar smoke? You know, whatever.

VIDEO: http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/14/matthews-probes-thompsons-smell-sex-appeal/



In A Three Minute Monologue, Matthews Gushes Over Bush’s ‘Great Neo-Conservative Mind’»
Immediately following President Bush’s press conference today, MSNBC’s Chris Matthews spent three unbroken minutes fawning over the president’s “powerful rendition” of his “philosophy” without uttering a single critical word. “I thought in listening to the president, I was listening to one of the great neoconservative minds,” gushed Matthews.

VIDEO: http://thinkprogress.org/2007/08/09/matthews-bush-monologue/


MEDIA MATTERS MISINFORMER OF THE YEAR....THREE years ago!!!

This year, of all the news anchors, columnists, pundits, and reporters whose work we've critiqued and corrected, one man stands alone as a clear successor to the O'Reilly throne. We are pleased to announce broadcast journalist, former newspaper bureau chief, former presidential speechwriter, and best-selling author Chris Matthews has earned the title of 2005's "Misinformer of the Year." At times, it has even been difficult to tell the difference between 2005's Misinformer of the Year and his predecessor.

For your reading pleasure, we've compiled some highlights of Matthews's most egregious false and misleading claims, as well as his glowing and gushing praise for President Bush.

Without further ado:

Chris ♥ George, Part 1: Bush sometimes "glimmers" with "sunny nobility." On MSNBC's Hardball, during a discussion with Washington Times editorial page editor Tony Blankley of the effects on President Bush and his administration of the investigation into the leak of the name of CIA operative Valerie Plame, Matthews said "Sometimes it glimmers with this man, our president, that kind of sunny nobility."
Chris ♥ George, Part 2: "Everybody sort of likes the president, except for the real whack-jobs ..." Insulting the majority of Americans who hold an unfavorable opinion of President Bush, Matthews exclaimed on Hardball: "Everybody sort of likes the president, except for the real whack-jobs, maybe on the left," adding, "I mean, like him personally."
Chris ♥ George, Part 3: Matthews praised Bush speech as "brilliant" even before it was delivered. Before Bush had even delivered his November 30 speech at the U.S. Naval Academy, Matthews used variations of the word "brilliant" twice to describe it, while deriding Democratic critics of the Iraq war as "carpers and complainers."
Chris ♥ George, Part 4: Bush "belongs on Mount Rushmore." Recounting his experience at a White House party, Matthews said that he "felt sensitive" during his interactions with the president, adding: "You get your picture taken with him. It's like Santa Claus, and he's always very generous and friendly." He continued: "I felt like I was too towel-snappy with him," explaining that Bush had noted his "red scarf" and remarked that he looked "preppy." During the same show, Matthews stated: "If gamble that he can create a democracy in the middle of the Arab world" is successful, "he belongs on Mount Rushmore."
Matthews on the filibuster debate: Democrats are "just sort of pouting and bitching." Matthews weighed in on the filibuster debate in May, declaring: "I think the Democrats started this fight. I think they did. ... You know, I think Democrats should win more elections. That will solve their problem." Days later, in discussing the Senate compromise agreement to avert the "nuclear option" to ban judicial filibusters, Matthews repeatedly espoused Republican talking points, claiming, among other things, that because of the recent bipartisan agreement aimed at averting the "nuclear option," Democrats can stop "pouting and bitching ... actually participate in legislation now"; that Republicans might "get double-crossed or screwed by the Democrats"; and that the Republican position that every judicial nominee deserves an up-or-down vote "sounds great to me." .....
http://mediamatters.org/items/200512230005

But you do go on believing whatever you want. I shudder to think, based on the evidence I have provided above, what someone has to DO or SAY to be considered a Republican in your rather nearsighted view.

You DO know Tucker Carlson is against the war, too? Pat Buchanan as well? "The War" as you naively suppose, is not a "Democratic" issue exclusively. Even though you think our party owns it.

If anyone needs to "get real" it is you. You clearly don't have your facts in order... at all.

[jenmito]

34. I know he said all those things. I watch him every night. And if YOU did, you'd also know that the

things I said he said are ALSO true.

[MADem]

37. That Obama crawls up his leg, and his sexist use of language when discussing Senator Clinton?

Yes, I've heard that shit too. It's shit. Like the speaker.

Who is well to the right of the center in American politics, and who, now that he has money, is more in line with the GOP than our team.

But don't believe that,just because he said Obama makes his leg tingle. He'll be shitting on Obama like he's a porcelain throne if he gets to do the One-on-one matchups with his real ideal man, Popeye McCain.

He got his Marching Orders from The Company. You just don't see it.




Here--MORE: "Open-minded" Matthews: McCain "deserve the presidency"


http://mediamatters.org/items/200701230006

[jenmito]

38. Keep ignoring the things I mentioned. It just shows your ignorance.

[MADem]

39. Oooh, he's VERY independent!! So's Pat Buchanan! He's VERY against the war! So's Fucker Carlson.

Why don't you try reading what I write, there, One-Note?

Being against the war, and being VERY independent (does the word VERY thrill for some reason) isn't "evidence."

Sorry.

You didn't even look at the videos. Probably didn't touch the links, either.

You didn't have time, you responded so swiftly. So we know where you're coming from.

That "Fuck The Facts" attitude will only take you so far.

[jenmito]

41. He also thinks Rove lied under oath (about the leak), Cheney was involved, too, and Libby was guilty

Give it a rest.

[MADem]

42. This may come as a shock to you, but there are Republicans who believe those things.

It's not JUST a Democratic "idea" ya know. Some of them recently have moved to the Indy middle, like Bloomberg and Chafee.

A lot of Republicans think Bush, Cheney and Rove were the worst things to happen to the GOP since Nixon. Their tent may not be quite as inclusive as ours, but it isn't a pup tent. It's got Sue Collins and Olympia Snow in it, as well as Dick Cheney and Larry Craig and emeriti like Gingrich and Frist.

So YOU might give it one of those "rests." Because you aren't speaking from anything approaching fact, you're simply set on a course that you haven't proved at all, as you haven't presented a shitsquirt of evidence.

[jenmito]

43. You're a joke! Justifying his LW positions as a "Repub. believing those things."

I realize the Libertarians were against the war, but no Repubs. think all those people in the leak case were guilty. Got an example?

[MADem]

44. No, I am not "a joke." You, however, are a poltical neophyte who doesn't

understand the positions of many politicians and pundits on the publc stage. You make assumptions, and your assumptions do not marry in the slightest with reality. Your broad brushed approach makes you unable to appreciate nuance at all.

Here, let me do more research for you, though you don't bother to read it (if you did, you wouldn't persist in this foolishness)--from this past August:

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=antiwar_republicans_facing_early__campaign_challenges

Antiwar Republicans Facing Early Campaign Challenges

Republicans like Congressman Walter Jones of North Carolina who are advocating for withdrawal from Iraq find themselves already confronted by early '08 election challenges from pro-war candidates.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/30/AR2007083002117.html?hpid=topnews
Reid Opens Door to Pact With Antiwar Republicans

By Shailagh Murray
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, August 31, 2007; Page A01

LAS VEGAS -- Saying the coming weeks will be "one of the last opportunities" to alter the course of the war, Senate Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) said he is now willing to compromise with Republicans to find ways to limit troop deployments in Iraq.

Reid acknowledged that his previous firm demand for a spring withdrawal deadline had become an obstacle for a small but growing number of Republicans who have said they want to end the war but have been unwilling to set a timeline.





Here's Pat Buchanan, at antiwar.com, explaining how "guilty" Scooter skated, and how he LIED:

http://www.antiwar.com/pat/?articleid=11247

So what if Scooter lied to cover up the White House campaign to carve up Joe Wilson? If Scooter did it, good Straussian that he is, he did it for the highest of motives in the noblest of causes.

To the neocons, Scooter is, in Ahmed Chalabi's phrase, "a hero in error," one of the boys. And as they saved him from the slammer, they will not stop until they secure him a pardon – to which Bush has now opened the door.

The second explanation is that Vice President Cheney went to Bush, closed the door, and asked, as a personal favor, that he spare Cheney's faithful friend and loyal aide the disgrace and pain of prison. And Bush did this distasteful and shameful act at the behest of a vice president to whom he feels an immense debt.

The third explanation is that Cheney, and perhaps the president, fears that if Scooter goes to prison, and is staring at disgrace and 30 months away from friends and family, he may think he has been abandoned by people whose secrets he kept at the cost of reputation and freedom. An idle mind being the devil's workshop, Scooter might sit down and write a book, or phone "Bulldog" Fitzgerald and tell him he just remembered something.

Whatever the motives of President Bush, this was a radical not a conservative act. Whoever pressured Bush to wipe out Scooter's sentence was more a friend of Scooter than a friend of Bush. For the president has damaged his reputation as a just ruler, so Scooter could elude what other men have to face.




"No Repubs" eh? Sorry, you're mistaken. And again, I've proven my case with facts.

Are you starting to feel a bit foolish? You sure don't mind making stuff up to prove a point, I notice.

[jenmito]

46. Oh, sorry. Some thought Libby lied but that it was JUSTIFIED. Thanks for "clearing that up."

Not really a LW position, either. But you tried REALLY hard.

[MADem]

47. I gave you what YOU asked for. Now, because you don't like what YOU asked for,

you move the goalposts....and blame ME.

Smooth move...

:eyes:

Here, I aim to please: http://www.pollster.com/blogs/opinion_on_libby_sentence_comm.php

Not surprisingly, 79% of liberals wanted to see Libby serve his sentence, with only 9% approving Bush's decision and 11% wanting a full pardon. Moderates were only a little less bent on punishment: 69% wanted prison time, while 19% approved the commutation and 11% wanted a full pardon. But what surprises me is the Conservatives. They broke into rough thirds: 31% wanted a complete pardon and 31% approved the decision, but a surprising 35% thought Libby should have served his prison sentence. For all the talk of the President needing to respond to a conservative base fired up for a full pardon, this evidence suggests the President has failed to satisfy two-thirds of that base. (And one should always remember that what we hear on conservative talk radio is a substantial exaggeration of the homogeneity of opinion within that base. Grass roots conservatives (as with grass roots liberals) are considerably more variable in their opinions than radio shows would suggest.

http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2007/07/poll_american_majority_disagre.html

Poll: American majority disagree with Bush on Libby
by Frank James

A new American Research Group poll suggests that, in an Alice in Wonderland way, President Bush's commutation of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby's prison sentence is both a polarizing and unifying event in contemporary American politics.

Overall, 64 percent of the respondents to the survey disapproved of President Bush's clemency towards Libby while 31 percent approved.

Here's the polarizing part. The poll indicates that 13 percent of Democrats approved Bush's compassion towards Libby while 76 disapproved.

By contrast, 50 percent of Republicans approved of Bush commuting Libby's prison sentence.

Here's the unifying aspect of Bush's Libby move. Nearly half the Republican voters, 47 percent disapproved of the president's action. So they have that in common with nearly three quarters of the Democrats. You can add to that group 80 percent of those identified as independents.

When the discussion turned to an outright pardon, 82 percent of Democrats, 70 percent of Republicans and a whopping 97 percent of independents opposed such a move by Bush.

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[tabasco]

25. Why can't he be both?

I like the idea of the President being a leader in restoring our rights.

[MADem]

29. All I was doing was quoting what I heard. The responses I got are really telling, though.

Yours is the most civil, pretty near.

[superkia]

30. I think I would like to have a civil rights leader as our POTUS.

I have enjoyed my rights all of my life and now see the system slowly picking them away, we need someone to defend or rights. It amazes me that people around here would listen to that speech and only think to use it as a political attack instead of maybe caring about the substance and forget the campaigns. Why do so many around here dislike the idea of ALL Americans getting along and fighting together?

I think there are some people around here with some serious judgment issues!

I hope most Americans have woke up and do the right thing this time, we need to get back to where the government is for the people instead of the corporations. I don't care for fascism and still believe most Americans are good people, some on the other hand only see an opportunity for THEIR team to get an advantage?


I agree with a post I saw a little while ago, ignore all of the negative, divisive posts that are destroying the chance of having a D in office, let them feed on each other instead.

[BringBigDogBack]

40. wow.

[MADem]

45. Wow, what? I didn't say it. I quoted it from the tee vee.

Way too much "messenger shooting" hereabouts, I note.

[cooolandrew]

4. Cooo, HE WE GO FIRRRED UP!!!

[cooolandrew]

5. CooL, HE WE GO FIRRRED UP!!!

[cooolandrew]

6. .....

[tridim]

7. I've been waiting for this speech my entire life

It has more to do with the evolution of human kind than anything else. "Unity" is the new "America".

[Rosa Luxemburg]

20. and we can do 'Unity' for the world too

other countries want to work with Obama and he is the talk in hairdressors, pubs all over the world.

[monmouth]

10. For the first time in ages I will watch the Sunday a.m. shows. There's

a column either at HuffPo or C&L that does coverage of all the Sunday a.m. shows so if you miss one, go there for a great and very funny analysis. MTP, it's showtime Timmeh, let's see how much of a man you are...

[JimGinPA]

11. People Will Be Discussing This Speech For Awhile...

Possibly a very long while.

K&R

[Johnny__Motown]

12. At This Rate Barack Is Gonna Be Man Of The Year

[Life Long Dem]

14. Sounds like people are seeing what Obama supporters see and have been seeing.

They had names for that too. A cult or some stupid shit. adding this on edit - This refers to how some where saying there was a movement in Obama supporters over Obama. And some seeing what this was all about.

[cooolandrew]

22. It took some work but we got there he is the change America has been waiting for. I've been

campaigning since kerry conceded.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

17. Cool! A two-fer!

[DerekJ]

18. kick

[mythyc]

48. kick deux

[sniffa]

23. He's going to dominate the story line now

[grantcart]

33. Wright who? Clinton what?

[VolcanoJen]

35. How could he not land those covers?

This was an historic day, an address that we'll remember for generations.

I don't really think it's sunk it, yet, for many of us. It's just starting to for me.

[Doctor_J]

36. Next to Jeremiah Wright, probably

Big Media have their work cut out for them now. MSRNC let Ken Blackwell out of his prison cell. Maybe Slappy Thomas will open his mouth too.

They're going to have a tough time sinking the SS Obama after today.