Do you folks understand now why Hillary should not throw in the towel?

[jasmine621]

The Clintons know what the RW machine is capable of and they know that the RW will be throwing everything it has at Obama once it is clear that he is the likely nominee. They have experience with these bastards.

The Obama campaign has reaped what it has sown with its ridiculous spinning of Bill Clinton's statement in SC are "racist." They played the card and now they are holding a hand full of marked cards. Sad.

[Avalux]

1. They ARE those bastards. They've joined them and it's sickening.

Listen to yourself.

[merwin]

3. Yeah. They're just as bad as Bush.

Keep telling yourself that.

[Avalux]

6. They are when they join the RW in swiftboating a fellow Democrat.

It's especially ironic, considering what Bill Kristol did to Hillary in the 90s.

[merwin]

24. Hillary did not swiftboat anyone.

Swiftboating is something like "McCain has an illegitimate black baby", or "John Kerry is a coward and didn't earn his medals, etc". Nothing that Hillary has done has gotten anywhere near that.

She's playing somewhat dirty, but not to the level of the conservatives.

[helderheid]

31. Oh, I don't know...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ilDYmakM3fs

[merwin]

36. I'm sorry, where in that video does she mention Obama?

In context, here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ-DMyo_Y-o&feature=related

Looks to me like she's saying she's going to make a better match against McCain because she has more experience than Obama.

Whether a valid statement or not, it was far from swiftboating.

[helderheid]

51. I posted a different youtube vid - wish I could find it again - where she said McCain would bring a

lifetime of experience to the Whitehouse. So would she. Barack would bring nothing more than a speech he made in 2002.

eta stooopid typo. I'm really tired.

[merwin]

59. That's the one that i just posted.

She says something to the effect of "I think you can imagine many things that McCain will be able to say. He's never been the President, but he will put forth a lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002."

She was talking about campaigning against each other, not endorsing him. There's no way you can interpret that to mean an endorsement of McCain.

[helderheid]

60. Actually, it isn't the one you posted. Darnit, I wish I could find it! Foo.

[stillcool]

67. I don't know what you call this...

December 10, 2007
Third Clinton Volunteer Knew Of Smear E-Mail
A third volunteer for Hillary Clinton's campaign was aware of a propaganda e-mail alleging that Barack Obama is a Muslim who plans on "destroying the U.S. from the inside out. "Let us all remain alert concerning Obama's expected presidential Candidacy," the email reads. "Please forward to everyone you know. The Muslims have said they Plan on destroying the U.S. from the inside out, what better way to start than at The highest level."

Two Clinton volunteers, Linda Olson and Judy Rose, have already been asked to resign from the campaign for their roles in forwarding the e-mail. The AP reported yesterday that Olson, a volunteer coordinator in Iowa County, sent a version of the e-mail to 11 people, including Ben Young, a regional field director for Chris Dodd's campaign. Young passed it on to the AP.
http://hotlineblog.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/third_clinton_v.html

Kerrey Apologizes to Obama Over Remark
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=4031436
Kerrey's mention of Obama's middle name and his Muslim roots raised eyebrows because they are also used as part of a smear campaign on the Internet that falsely suggests Obama is a Muslim who wants to bring jihad to the United States.
Obama is a Christian.
The Clinton campaign has already fired two volunteer county coordinators in Iowa for forwarding hoax e-mails with the debunked claim. Last week, a national Clinton campaign co-chairman resigned for raising questions about whether Obama's teenage drug use could be used against him, so Kerrey's comments raised questions about whether the Clinton campaign might be using another high-profile surrogate to smear Obama.

Hillary: Sorry for Any Offense Campaign (Bill) Has Caused
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB65wJ6Rcfs

Bill Clinton Asks for a Second Chance
By Liz Halloran
Posted February 11, 2008
The morning after his wife, Hillary, was routed in three state contests by Sen. Barack Obama in their dead-heat battle for the Democratic nomination, former President Bill Clinton made his case for her before a packed Sunday service at one of the largest black churches in Washington, D.C.
But first he offered an apology of sorts for racially tinged comments he made about Obama and his candidacy that have triggered a backlash in the black community and among many other Democrats.

Clinton invoked his "worship of a God of second chances" in pronouncing himself glad to be at the Temple of Praise, which claims nearly 15,000 members. His invocation of second chances echoed comments he made early last week at black churches in California, where he campaigned for his wife before that state's
Super Tuesday primary, which she won.
http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/campaign-

2008/2008/02/11/bill-clinton-asks-for-a-second-chance.html

Source: Newsday
Posted on Sunday, December 16, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Barack Obama Accepts Apology From Hillary Clinton
Washington D.C. 12/15/2007 09:17 AM GMT (FINDITT)

Hillary Clinton went straight to Barack Obama with an apology following a staffer's remarks about any skeletons that may be lurking in Obama's closet, pointing out that she had accepted the staffer's resignation over the disparaging remarks. Obama accepted her at her word, according to his campaign staff, and is moving on without letting it interrupt his campaign plans.


Obama is currently leading the polls in Iowa and New Hampshire, the two early primary states often considered key to the process, according to numbers at usaelectionpolls.com, but on a national level Clinton still holds a huge lead. The most recently posted poll results show Obama with 31 percent of the
probable voters in New Hampshire backing him with 29 percent showing support for Clinton.
http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=30629&cat=5

Clinton Camp Pushes O-Bomber Links: Ignores
Her Own Radical Ties
By: Justin Rood

ABC News - The Hillary Clinton campaign pushed to reporters today stories about Barack Obama and his ties to former members of a radical domestic terrorist group -- but did not note that as president, Clinton's husband pardoned more than a dozen convicted violent radicals, including a member of the same group
mentioned in the Obama stories."Wonder what the Republicans will do with this issue," mused Clinton spokesman Phil Singer in one e-mail to the media, containing a New York Sun article reporting a $200 contribution from William Ayers, a founding member of the 1970s group Weather Underground, to Obama in 2001.
In a separate e-mail, Singer forwarded an article from the Politico newspaper reporting on a 1995 event at a private home that brought Obama together with Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, another member of the radical group.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4330128&page=1

Bill Clinton To Apologize At LA Black Churches
Once again, Bill Clinton is ready to repent.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/02/bill-clinton-to-apologize_n_84573.html
On Sunday the former president is scheduled to visit black churches in South Central Los Angeles, where he's expected to offer a mea culpa to those who "dearly loved him" when he was their president, Rep. Diane Watson (D-Calif.) says. Watson, a member of the Congressional Black Caucus who has endorsed Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), tells us she'll usher the former president to more than half a dozen churches in
her district where she says he needs to "renew his relationship" with congregants who were turned off by his racially tinged comments in the days leading up to and following the South Carolina primary. (Such as when Clinton compared Sen. Barack Obama's landslide victory to Jesse Jackson's wins in 1984 and 1988.)

Clinton adviser steps down after drug use comments
Earlier Thursday, Clinton personally apologized to rival Obama for Shaheen's remarks.
Obama accepted her apology, according to David Axelrod, the top political strategist for the Obama campaign.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/13/clinton.obama/index.html

January 6, 2008, 5:18 pm
Edwards: No Conscience in Clinton Campaign
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/06/edwards-no-conscience-in-clinton-campaign/
By Julie Bosman
KEENE, N.H. – John Edwards angrily took on Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton at two news conferences in a row on Sunday, saying that her campaign “doesn’t seem to have a conscience.”

COMPTON, Calif. (AP) — Hillary Rodham Clinton and her campaign tried to mend ties to black voters Thursday when a key supporter apologized to her chief rival, Barack Obama, for comments that hinted at Obama's drug use as a teenager. The candidate herself, meanwhile, praised the Rev. Martin Luther King and promised to assist with the rebirth of this troubled, largely black city.

Bob Johnson, the founder of Black Entertainment Television, apologized for comments he made at a Clinton campaign rally in South Carolina on Sunday that hinted at Obama's use of drugs as a teenager.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-01-17-

johnson-apology_N.htm?csp=34

Clinton Surrogate Compares Obama Ad to Nazi March
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20080201/cm_thenation/45278988_1
Fri Feb 1, 2:23 PM ET
The Nation -- On a media conference call organized by the Hillary Clinton campaign today, Clinton surrogate Len Nichols compared an Obama health care ad to Nazis.
----------
Accusing political opponents of Nazism is an outrageous smear. Raising the specter of a Nazi march in response to a health care mailer that evokes the insurance industry is so absurd, it would be hard to take the attack seriously, were it not launched from a high profile national campaign conference call in this crucial stretch of the presidential race. And political observers know, of course, that the Clinton Campaign regularly arranges opportunities for surrogates to launch these kind of smears, which are later followed up with apologies. (See: Bob Johnson, Bill Shaheen, Bob Kerrey, and Francine Torge, to name the most recent offenders.) For his part, Nichols did not immediately return a call requesting further comment.
-------------------------
Len Nichols, Director of New America's Health Policy Program, stated, "For nearly 17 years I have worked tirelessly to reform our nation's struggling health system. Today my passion overwhelmed me. I chose an analogy that was wholly inappropriate. I am deeply sorry for any offense that my unfortunate comments may have caused.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dk1k0nUWEQg

http://graphics.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20080112_nevada_lawsuit.pdf
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/01/17/a-feisty-bill-

clinton-defends-nevada-lawsuit/
CLINTON ALLIES SUPPRESS THE VOTE IN NEVADA...
On Meet the Press on Sunday, Hillary Clinton said her campaign had nothing to do with a lawsuit--written about by Nation Editor Katrina vanden Heuvel--that threatens to prevent thousands of workers from voting in the Nevada caucus on Saturday.
Back in March, the Nevada Democratic Party agreed to set up caucus locations on the Vegas strip for low-income shift workers, many of them members of the state's influential Culinary Union, who commute long distances to work and wouldn't be able to get home in time to caucus. It was an uncontroversial idea until the Culinary Union endorsed Barack Obama and the Nevada State Education Association, whose top officials support Clinton, sued to shut down the caucus sites.
The Clinton camp played dumb until yesterday, when President Clinton came out in favor of the lawsuit.
Clinton's comments drew a heated response from D. Taylor, the head of Nevada's Culinary Union, on MSNBC's Hardball. "He is in support of disenfranchising thousands upon thousands of workers, not even just our members," Taylor said of Clinton. "The teachers union is just being used here. We understand that This is the Clinton campaign. They tried to disenfranchise students in Iowa. Now they're trying to
disenfranchise people here in Nevada, who are union members and people of color and women."
Rank-and-file members of Nevada's teachers union also come out against the lawsuit filed by their leadership. "We never thought our union and Senator Clinton would put politics ahead of what's right for our students, but that's exactly what they're doing," the letter stated. "As teachers, and proudmDemocrats, we hope they will drop this undemocratic lawsuit and help all Nevadans caucus, no matter which candidate they support."
The lawsuit's opponents make a persuasive point. Creating obstacles to voting is what the GOP does to Democrats, not what Democrats should be doing to other Democrats.

[jconner27]

72. Obama supporters=GOP from the 1990s

[Texas Hill Country]

44. bullshit. the Clintons have done TONS for the democratic party, for the poor and for minorities.

Obama would be ashamed.


IGNORE>

[jgraz]

45. Yes. We especially liked Wefare Reform and 12 years of a Rethug congress

Thanks, Bill & Hill! :hi:

[roguevalley]

56. affirming mccain is as low as it gets. she did it four times. Even

Peter only sold out Jesus three times.

[merwin]

61. Please post those exact quotes.

I just debunked another one on this thread saying she endorsed McCain.

[roguevalley]

64. here, merwin. and here is the video of her saying, video I had

watched myself on the telly when she said it. I also saw the other ones and I will post the link when I find it.

How then can you debunk film of her saying it? Belittle the meaning of what she is saying: "I think that I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. I know Senator McCain has a lifetime of experience to the White House. And Senator Obama has a speech he gave in 2002," Clinton says.

spin that.

links:

http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/hillary-again-says-three-more-times.html

http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/hillary-today-john-mccain-has-more.html

[merwin]

66. Do you mean this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ-DMyo_Y-o&feature=related

She says something to the effect of "I think you can imagine many things that McCain will be able to say. He's never been the President, but he will put forth a lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002."

She was talking about campaigning against each other, not endorsing him. There's no way you can interpret that to mean an endorsement of McCain.

[roguevalley]

68. of course you can. giving props to the enemy about ANYTHING

they can do is bullshit. pure bullshit. she affirmed McCain's ability to be president. Anything else is spin.

[merwin]

74. She just said that he was going to run on his lifetime of experience.

She never said he was going to be a good president.

[roguevalley]

84. spin. spinspinspin. spin away, my friend.

[merwin]

86. So the truth is considered "spin" now?

I posted a word for word quote that can only be taken one way. How is that spin?

[polpilot]

58. They are WORSE. They enable Bush & Co. Pr--NAFTA, Pro-War Clintons

have destroyed the party.

[TwilightGardener]

14. I love how Hillary supporters pretend that Hil-n-Bill are just kindly,

older, wiser "mentors" to Obama, practicing "tough love" on the kid by trying to take him out at the knees and insisting the GOP would be worse. It's just laughable.

[chimpymustgo]

23. Listen to YOURSELF. Geez - cut it out.

[scheming daemons]

2. Obama just grenaded the RW's "Wright Swiftboat".... I think he's doing...

just fine....

[NJmaverick]

5. He is doing better than fine

He is taking politics to a whole new level.

[napi21]

11. I hope you're right, but I'm not so sure. WE already liked Barack,

and weren't holding his relationship with Rev. Wright against him. We liked what he said today, but I think it's too soon to tell how his speech was received by the people who don't feel that way.

[Lerkfish]

4. um, no.

thanks for playing. What is his parting gift, Don Pardo?

[Auntie Bush]

7. K & R

[Larkspur]

8. Hillary would be flattened by the Right Wing machine in a general election

RW has spent millions in books, movies, and 527 groups preparing to humiliate and swamp Hillary in the general election. Obama is a threat to the millions they've spend preparing for a Hillary Presidential campaign.

[lolamio]

30. Exactly.

The right wing has an entire arsenal they are just waiting to use on Clinton in the GE.

[ElsewheresDaughter]

34. The RW Ken Starr spent $75 million trying to find dirt on Hillary and they came up with jack shit!!

[Liberal Gramma]

47. That's not completely the case

They found nothing they could *prosecute* him on, but there's plenty for them to make sly inuendos and talking points about. The thing about the RW is that it doesn't have to be true or proveable. Obama will stand up to the onslaught just as well as, or better than, Hillary would.

[nels25]

48. If I were you I would check again

a couple of weeks ago I looked up both Travelgate, and Filegate on Wiki and they paint a much less flattering picture of Hillary.

can you just picture a ad that starts with a man stating: "Good day my name is Billy Dale, my life was destroyed by the Clinton attack machine led by the first lady at the time. I was tried on trumped up charges and found not guilty within 45 minutes. Please tell me where I go to get my good name back?? Is this the type of person you want leading the nation?"

And the ad will be paid for by a GOP front 527 group.

If you think Hillary is pure as the driven snow, I got swamp land in Atlantis for sale??

Interested??

:dem:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

54. haha you "looked it up on "Wiki"...hell I can go on Wiki and edit in anything I want .

you did know that anyone can edit Wiki at anytime right?

[nels25]

79. No actually I did not.

but the info I found tallies with the way I remember it and the way others have written about it.

You may recall that an inordinate number of Clinton administration people called in front of a grand jury or to testify before congress sure seemed to have faulty memories at one time.

The darnedest case of mass amnesia I have ever seen.

The bottom line is that the GOP can and will exploit this against Hillary and no amount of "oh that is old news" will make it go away.:hi:

[Larkspur]

57. Finding the truth about the Clintons is not the purpose of RW attacks on the Clintons

Smearing and guilt by association are the keys to RW attacks and overloading the public with smears, distortions and negative inuendos about the Clintons is the purpose of RW attacks. All they want to do is raise their opponents negatives higher than their own candidate's and that has been enough for them to win in the past.

The RW machine is ready for Hillary. Hillary ain't ready for them and if she succeeds in winning the Dem nomination through trickery and bullying, she will tear the Dem Party apart and that will help McCain and the RW machine behind him crush her.

[melody]

9. No, I don't. I agree with you characterizing Bill's statements as "racist" was ludicrous, however -

The Bill racism thing may have been the problem in the first place, but I'm not backing Hillary and don't want her as the nominee for the same reason I didn't support Bill in the Democratic primaries, she's DLC. The nominee has been chosen -- all Hillary has done is wound Obama without giving Obama the chance to strike back at the real enemy -- McCain. If McCain brought this up, Obama could use the whole picture of the wacko fundies brigade behind McCain to battle it.

Now McCain will just use Hillary's crap and say "see, his own party isn't behind him" and thereby win in November.

So tell me again why she shouldn't throw in the towel? Does she REALLY want to destroy any chance we have in November? If she tries to force herself to be the nominee, how on earth will that unify the party? All the zeal and joy about the election will be dead and gone -- particularly among young people. And that'll just help give it to McCain.

So you explain TO ME why Hillary is doing this in the first place.

[babylonsister]

10. Bill DID make racist statements. If he didn't, why did

Hillary apologize for him, why did Leahy, Kennedy, Kerry and Clyburn chastize him for SC remarks?

And if you don't think the r/w has any dirt on the Clintons, you're delusional. They've had 8 years to plan for the attack; Obama is the surprise.

So, I encourage Clinton to throw in the towel.

[DemGa]

13. Hillary did NOT apologize for Bill's "racist statements" -- because they never occurred

You must certainly be aware of this fact.

[EFerrari]

43. Yes, she did apologize for him. And he's still at it.

Go, Bill!

[pnwmom]

25. Oh come on. No one but a complete partisan, which you know you are,

would characterize what Bill said as racist. Barack himself says that what Bill said wasn't racist.

Leahy, Kennedy, Kerry and Clyburn thought his remarks weren't helpful; but they never said the remarks were racist.

[babylonsister]

27. Why weren't his remarks helpful? Seriously, since I'm not privy

to what they said to Clinton, I'd like your take on what he said that wasn't 'helpful'. And why did Hillary apologize for him?

[pnwmom]

53. Because they could be twisted around and distorted by partisans

who would then use the remarks against HRC.

HRC apologized for the misunderstanding, not for her husband being a racist or saying racist things.

[papau]

26. We disagree on this

[rucky]

12. Sad, indeed. n/t

[Auntie Bush]

15. That was the first thing I thought

You be correct!
:thumbsup:

[cooolandrew]

16. HRC can stay all she wants Barack wins =)

[Drachasor]

17. The Obama campaign didn't accuse Bill Clinton of racism (or anyone else in the Clinton Campaign)

There are other people that have said it, but the Obama campaign did not say that or imply it was racist.

[pnwmom]

28. If it's not too late, you should edit your subject line so that it accords

with what you meant to say: "The Obama campaign did NOT accuse Bill Clinton. . . )"

[Drachasor]

32. Thanks! I forget those pesky negations sometimes!

[ginnyinWI]

18. I think Hillary is probably considering it, actually.

I'll tell you why: a few weeks ago, she was ranting that all Obama had was a speech. Today she congratulated him on his speech,or so I heard. She may be getting ready to concede for the good of the party.

If so, she's not as selfish or ambitious as some here take her for. I really hope she isn't. Today there seems to be a change in tone. Maybe she'll wait until after PA, but if she doesn't win by a landslide, I think she might get out.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

19. Frankly, no.

Obama's handled this latest smear better than Bill Clinton could have, and far better than Hillary could have dreamed.

[MadAndy]

20. Notice that BO didnt throw his Rev under the bus like Hillary did w Ferarro.

[jasmine621]

77. But isn't that what all you Obama supporters were screaming for her to do?

You folks just won't be satisfied with anything Hillary does.

[zulchzulu]

21. Obama proved he can handle a Swift Horton from his own party

As for Obama in the GE against MCain, two things that are already making the Wright issue a moot one.

1. McCain has already called it a non-issue.

2. If McCain or any 527s wanted to make it an issue, he would get hammered with his links to Hagee and others, thus alienating Catholics, Jews, Women, Blacks and whoever else in the mix. The ads smacking him down would mention it's a non-issue to McCain AND then show the venom from them.

Obama survived nicely FROM The Clinton Machine AND the Repiglified media channels.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

22. No, what's sad is that Hillary provoked the RW attacks. The good news is BO has overcome them all.

[wrando]

29. why throw in the towel?

She in a decent spot to win the nomination and the presidency. The people here that say they would never vote for her now were never going to anyway. The MSM and the most of the blogs are ga-ga over this speech today. This will change, at least, in the MSM by Thursday. The speech is a wash, just more politics.

Bill from ct

[4_Legs_Good]

33. ABSOLUTELY true!!! And it's been shown! The right wing just threw this Wright bologna at him

once it was clear he was the likely nominee!

You're absolutely right.

Now that we're sure he'll be the nominee, we'll likely see more of these attacks from all sides of the right wing.

And Obama will likely not be able to fend them off any better than he did today with one of the most moving speeches of the last decade.

We're DOOMED DOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMEEEEDDDDD!!!



David

[dailykoff]

35. She should have thrown in the towel after Iowa

and if she wasn't a ringer she would have.

[Sulawesi]

37. No, I don't understand at all and your post makes no sense to me.

[JVS]

38. bullshit

[indimuse]

39. Political Necessity is what happened today.

From my earlier post:

What I would like to know from all the people who claim he is sooo courageous (Ed Shultz) to get out there and address racial issues in America... and how wonderful he sounds, to explain...WHY this speech ( "Campaign"...A.B.C..Always Be Closing...something said in sales...)was NOT given before SC and AFTER Barack Obama's Co Chair of his campaign made THAT HORRIBLE Racial/ATTACK on Hilliary Clinton on NATIONAL TV??? "WE (The Obama Campaign ) are STILL analyzing THOSE tears...and where were her tears for the Katrina victims...?" (as if knew her most intimate self......) Excuse me? Obama and his campaign STIRRED the racial pot ONLY to BLAME the Clinton's! He allowed voter to believe a LIE to elevate himself...That was a PERSONAL...RACIAL...LIE about HIllary..now the Clinton's pay for it..Hillary's numbers suffer and and now he has caused a lot of AA to hate Hillary. NOW, no matter what, most won't vote for her. (Such a uniter )

He helped stir underlying hate...he cultivated it and he now will use it again to gain POLITICAL Leverage my opinion...

20 years of like mindedness..20 years. over 1000 sermons! 1000 sermons. NEVER once said "'that's enough, I can't listen to that HATE!" no. He liked what he heard..or he would not have attended for 20 years. simple.

When will we hear an apology to Hillary for the disgusting attacks he made during one of his hate sermons...and when are they going to hit this guy with a huge TAX BILL?
When will we hear an apology to Hillary about the comments made by his hateful Co Chair JJJ?

[EFerrari]

46. I only hope that Clinton drops out before the country turns on

both Clintons even more.

Hillary Clinton is the most self serving politician in recent memory and she ran most of these games on Tasini. Wright never attacked Hillary despite your lame attempts at disinformation.

Go sell it to people who haven't seen it before.

[merwin]

62. "Hillary Clinton is the most self serving politician in recent memory"

Oh really? Ever heard of Dick Cheney? George W Bush? Donald Rumsfeld? Nancy Pelosi?

You can come up with a better line than that.

[theredpen]

40. No, I cannot understand why the certain loser will not throw in the towel

...but, hey, it's good practice for Obama and it's keeping McSame out of the media, so that's good.

[beachmom]

41. They are currently allied with the Right. But continue on in your fairy tale, if you will.

Everyone knows that Bill Clinton was making a race baiting statement in SC. Good lord.

[EFerrari]

42. I'm not part of the Obama campaign and am not his supporter.

And the Clinton campaign has mounted race based attacks on him for months now.

Sort of like your OP.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

49. Who?

:shrug:

[Exilednight]

50. The Clintons are the RW machine. They're using the same tactics.

[Forkboy]

52. I can only pity how far gone many of you seem to be as Hillary's campaign crumbles.

:rofl:

[thoughtcrime1984]

55. She follows up the kitchen sink with a towel? Nah.

Sad.

[wrando]

65. kitchen sink

now that is nonsense

Bill from ct

[thoughtcrime1984]

78. wrong wrando

Hil's tactics have been called "kitchen sink" by virtually everyone.

[wrando]

83. wrong

not by anyone without an axe to grind or is not politically ignorant

Bill from ct

[thoughtcrime1984]

85. Good grief

you deny that Hil's campaign has turned negative, and has not been called throwing "everything and the kitchen sink" at Obama? Okie doke.

[wrando]

87. turn off the cable

you shouldn't believe everything you see on those wacky cable talk shows

they rot your brain

Bill from ct

[thoughtcrime1984]

92. I surely don't watch much TV

I see what I see, however, and that is that Hillary has said some pretty ridiculous things. The worst of which was that McCain has experience and Obama has a speech. I'm done with this, we obviously aren't going to convince each other of anything.

[mdmc]

63. HRC should throw in the towel, then beat Mac in 2012, if he is still

around.

Let Obama choke on his audacity.

[cali]

69. She's done. And it was hilly who reaped the "rewards" of her

campaign's race baiting. duh. that's why she lost. get out your fork. she's done. to a turn.

[damntexdem]

70. No, I don't understand it now. Rather, I don;t understand why she didn't weeks ago.

I can only conclude that she puts personal ambition ahead of a Democrat's winning the election.

[Johnny__Motown]

71. Delusional, Bill's Jesse reference was clearly racial

[travelingtypist]

73. No one with a heart could be unaffected by that speech.

That Hillary Kool-Aid is a real strong brew.

[Kahuna]

75. I doubt that Hillary's patented whining and crying is what is needed

to thwart the repukes.

[blm]

76. The Clintons are in it to protect closed government for the powerful elite - THAT'S why she

should lose to anyone who believes in open government.

Those who support the continuing protection of BushInc and the privilege of closed government should be stripped of citizenship they refuse to use.

[JTFrog]

80. Another Opposite Day In HillaryWorld.

[Orsino]

81. Of course. Clinton's only staying in for the good of the party...

...and Obama is only remaining to hurt it. :eyes:

[casus belli]

82. This is the weirdest post I've ever seen.

Seriously, it doesn't even pass a basic logic test.

[jab105]

88. No - I don't

Obama has run a very above board campaign, and hasn't attacked Hillary CLinton with any of the "kitchen sink" that the right wing will do to her...to his own detriment...

I dont think the right wing will be so kind...to say the least!

[Splinter Cell]

89. Wrong

The Clintons are as much scum as the GOP nuts. Bill has been an embarrassment with his personal conduct. I don't care if he gets a BJ from someone other then his wife, but A LOT OF VOTERS DO. He has no class, and he's proven that during this campaign.

Hillary is the Dick Cheney of the family. She's secretive, manipulative, and vicious. Nothing she does is human, it's all calculated, like that bullshit tearing up in New Hampshire. You damn well know someone thought that up on the flight up there.

We have only ONE progressive choice in this race, and that's Barack. Hillary is pretty much Dubya in a pantsuit.

[rodeodance]

90. Your post is nothing but made up vile scum. shame on you.

89. Wrong

The Clintons are as much scum as the GOP nuts. Bill has been an embarrassment with his personal conduct. I don't care if he gets a BJ from someone other then his wife, but A LOT OF VOTERS DO. He has no class, and he's proven that during this campaign.

Hillary is the Dick Cheney of the family. She's secretive, manipulative, and vicious. Nothing she does is human, it's all calculated, like that bullshit tearing up in New Hampshire. You damn well know someone thought that up on the flight up there.

We have only ONE progressive choice in this race, and that's Barack. Hillary is pretty much Dubya in a pantsuit.

[Splinter Cell]

93. The real shame

Is on all the progressives fooled by the Clinton machine that should know better.

[NDambi]

91. Hillary sucks...the sooner she goes the better

vile opportunist she is..only my opninion of course