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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:58 PM
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Obama "Exercise in affirmative action",hypocritical and devisive
Edited on Tue Mar-18-08 06:59 PM by MojoMojoMojo
Obamas interpretation is wrong and is hypocritical and devisive on his part.
Its also using race as a attack weapon.
When I heard Ferraros remark I thought she meant that Obamas getting 80% of the AA vote because hes a male AA.
That has nothing to do with affirmative action.
Quoted Huffington Post"She says, instead, that people who criticize her are being racist and that she was complimenting the way black people have supported Obama."

Obama
"On one end of the spectrum, we've heard the implication that my candidacy is somehow an exercise in affirmative action; that it's based solely on the desire of wide-eyed liberals to purchase racial reconciliation on the cheap.....

We can dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue, just as some have dismissed Geraldine Ferraro, in the aftermath of her recent statements, as harboring some deep-seated racial bias."
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 06:59 PM
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1. Thank you Tellurian.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:02 PM
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2. Wow! I thought that was one of the best lines
of a speech full of "one of the best lines"

I thought it really, really repuidiated Ferraro's comments both about Obama and about herself. I LOVE Ferraro, and I couldn't believe her comments about her own history Geraldine v. Gerald. They cut me to the bone. Same with Obama. Same with Clinton.

The comment seemed to be Limbaugh affirming, that the only reason women and minorities get anywhere is because of affirmative action.

Made me sick. His repudiation of this concept today made be proud. Very proud. Ferraro may not realize it, but I still respect her and absolutely REFUSE to believe that the only reason she was on the ticket in 1984 was because she was a woman, and refuse the notion that the mere fact that she was a barrier breaker isn't historically significant.

David
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MojoMojoMojo Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:10 PM
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3. Except its a twisted Obama lie that she meant that.
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4_Legs_Good Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:16 PM
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4. Weird! I hadn't heard a word from Obama or his campaign about Ferraro's comments
and yet I seem to have heard the exact lie he heard.

Bizarre!

David
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garthranzz Donating Member (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:29 PM
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5. You've got to see the whole context...

Here's what Obama said (from HuffingtonPost):

"We can dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue, just as some have dismissed Geraldine Ferraro, in the aftermath of her recent statements, as harboring some deep-seated racial bias.

But race is an issue that I believe this nation cannot afford to ignore right now. We would be making the same mistake that Reverend Wright made in his offending sermons about America - to simplify and stereotype and amplify the negative to the point that it distorts reality.

The fact is that the comments that have been made and the issues that have surfaced over the last few weeks reflect the complexities of race in this country that we've never really worked through - a part of our union that we have yet to perfect. And if we walk away now, if we simply retreat into our respective corners, we will never be able to come together and solve challenges like health care, or education, or the need to find good jobs for every American."

The key word in the passage is the "But" that begins the second paragraph. That, rhetorically, tells us that he is going to reject the previous position. It's the same as saying, "Some say we should dismiss Wright & Ferraro. And they're right BUT we should not dismiss the issue that they raised, BECAUSE their remarks and the response PROVE we haven't solved the race problem.

In other words, Obama is saying look beyond the offensive statements, don't make this about the person (ad hominem), but look at what the remarks and response tell us about ourselves. When we do that, we can see our choices clearly: retreat into the corners again, or come together. (Beatles, anyone?)
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:54 PM
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10. thanks...that was a thoughtful response.
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Sulawesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:30 PM
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6. I disagree, Obama's interpretation is right and yours is wrong.
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mythyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:30 PM
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7. ignore.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:31 PM
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8. Welcome to my ignore list
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-18-08 07:36 PM
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9. You're not good enough to pull this off. nt
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